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    (Original post by Ellie4)
    But unis know that people of do extra-cirriculars to have something to put on their UCAS form, or at least that's often the case, and people can easily lie about their hobbies, so it does seem a bit weird that that sort of info is used to pick candidates.
    I think universities used to want "well-rounded people" that would be more interesting than the standard overachiever, but the amount of BS on personal statements has probably passed the tolerance limit now. When I looked at my college's prospectus supplement this year, I noticed they'd changed the answer to one of their questions quite considerably from last year's.

    Last year:

    What are you looking for apart from academic potential?
    There is no specific answer to this question, as applicants have such a wide range of backgrounds and opportunities. If anything can be said in general terms, it would be that we look for applicants who make the most of what opportunities and choices they have, and enjoy an energetic and full sort of life.

    This year:

    What are you looking for apart from academic potential?
    In general, we are looking for applicants who can demonstrate good self-organisation and will clearly work hard, and who are well-suited to the course they have chosen to apply for.
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    (Original post by Adil Bhai)
    I completely agree that all this hobby mallarky is nonsense. Obviously nearly everyone enjoys doin something in their free time but shouldn't need documentation to prove it. I enjoy cricket, badminton and table tennis but haven't really had an opportunity to play any of these to any level because my school doesn't have any teams and there are hardly any local cricket teams in central london!

    At the end of the day people will lie about their hobbies and i for one think its disgraceful that if two people had the same academic level but one did more sport or music, then that person may get in. People who play grade 8 and wot not aren't going to be better in their field, infact quite the contrary since the person who got the grade 8 may end up liking his music more than his degree.

    Playing a sport or music to some level is a great achievement but i don't think it should play a significant role in the admissions process especially for something like medicine.

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    that's *******s really

    if a person can maintain a high academic standard whilst achieving in other areas, that person should be picked ahead of someone of the same academic standard but who spends all his time studying

    it should be pretty obvious that the guy spending all his time studying isn't of quite the same standard
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    (Original post by marabara)
    that's *******s really

    if a person can maintain a high academic standard whilst achieving in other areas, that person should be picked ahead of someone of the same academic standard but who spends all his time studying

    it should be pretty obvious that the guy spending all his time studying isn't of quite the same standard
    But why should how one person spends there time be better than someone else? If person a studies a lot, then goes to the pub with their mates and goes shopping (things which cant be written on your PS) and person b studies a lot, then plays sport for their school (something which can be written), it makes the whole process ridiculous. And peole lie so much on their PSs anyway, saying they have hobbies they don't.
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    (Original post by Ellie4)
    But why should how one person spends there time be better than someone else? If person a studies a lot, then goes to the pub with their mates and goes shopping (things which cant be written on your PS) and person b studies a lot, then plays sport for their school (something which can be written), it makes the whole process ridiculous. And peole lie so much on their PSs anyway, saying they have hobbies they don't.
    I think that stuff like sports and music demonstrate that a candidate has other interests that teach them beneficial traits..such as responsibility...teamwork...dedi cation..etc. While people who don't have sports and music the such like to put on their UCAS form might still have these traits....but it's more likely those who do these things to a high level will have these desirable traits in the university's eyes....i dunno if that makes sense??

    Also....stuff like playing sports and music to a high level mean that you can potentially offer more to university life than someone with the same grades....but who doesn't do any of these things.

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    (Original post by BazTheMoney)
    I think this is were it is important to differentiate between hobbies and extra curricular activities. The former dosen't really show anything constructive; yes I suppose it does show you can socialise, but that is often in an environment with people you know quite well, which university isn't like. Extra curriculars carry a lot more weight, they often show organisation skills and the type of socialising which is more relevant to university, eg, often in a more formal environment, but more importantly often with people you don't know that well.
    yep i agree... was thinking more along the lines of ECs rather than hobbies in my post hence my example of captaining a sports team...but the difference did need to be defined as i guess you could say a hobby was clubbing, going to the bar generally with males etc. Using the captain example....you won't neccessarily be in contact with people you know well, you may have to captain people in the team who you greatly..and often play against people you dont know at all.
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    (Original post by Ellie4)
    But why should how one person spends there time be better than someone else? If person a studies a lot, then goes to the pub with their mates and goes shopping (things which cant be written on your PS) and person b studies a lot, then plays sport for their school (something which can be written), it makes the whole process ridiculous. And peole lie so much on their PSs anyway, saying they have hobbies they don't.
    I'm extremely worried, for this is the second time you've mentioned that people lie on their PS....I sincerely hope this doesn't include you.
    I have no respect for anybody who lied on their PS and sometimes I wish univs could somehow (practically impossible obv )check who is talking crap and who is telling the truth.
    I for one know that everything i wrote on my PS was the abolsute truth and I hope that THAT many people don't lie.....
    BTW.....think about....person B is able to study and also do outside activities apart from academia which represent the school and make school life more enjoyable...showing he is more rounded and getting more involved with school life. I would have thought an admin tutor would rather have an intelligent person who will get involved with uni life in terms of team sports or societies...than an intelligent one who would rather spend the whole time at the uni/college bar or at the local mall.
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    (Original post by BossLady)
    I'm extremely worried, for this is the second time you've mentioned that people lie on their PS....I sincerely hope this doesn't include you.
    I have no respect for anybody who lied on their PS and sometimes I wish univs could somehow (practically impossible obv )check who is talking crap and who is telling the truth.
    I for one know that everything i wrote on my PS was the abolsute truth and I hope that THAT many people don't lie.....
    BTW.....think about....person B is able to study and also do outside activities apart from academia which represent the school and make school life more enjoyable...showing he is more rounded and getting more involved with school life. I would have thought an admin tutor would rather have an intelligent person who will get involved with uni life in terms of team sports or societies...than an intelligent one who would rather spend the whole time at the uni/college bar or at the local mall.
    I think Ellie means that a lot of people do 'embellish' their PS's a fair bit....i know somebody who played rugby for the C team in year 9...and he said he'd played for the school rugby team....i didn't embellish anything at all though.

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    (Original post by BossLady)
    I'm extremely worried, for this is the second time you've mentioned that people lie on their PS....I sincerely hope this doesn't include you.
    I have no respect for anybody who lied on their PS and sometimes I wish univs could somehow (practically impossible obv )check who is talking crap and who is telling the truth.
    I for one know that everything i wrote on my PS was the abolsute truth and I hope that THAT many people don't lie.....
    BTW.....think about....person B is able to study and also do outside activities apart from academia which represent the school and make school life more enjoyable...showing he is more rounded and getting more involved with school life. I would have thought an admin tutor would rather have an intelligent person who will get involved with uni life in terms of team sports or societies...than an intelligent one who would rather spend the whole time at the uni/college bar or at the local mall.
    No, I haven't lied on mine, because I do too much stuff to fit on there anyway, never mind having to make stuff up. It does happen though, probably more than you'd think.
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    (Original post by gzftan)
    I think Ellie means that a lot of people do 'embellish' their PS's a fair bit....i know somebody who played rugby for the C team in year 9...and he said he'd played for the school rugby team....i didn't embellish anything at all though.

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    Mmm exactly, that is what I mean bunnykins!
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    (Original post by gzftan)
    I think Ellie means that a lot of people do 'embellish' their PS's a fair bit....i know somebody who played rugby for the C team in year 9...and he said he'd played for the school rugby team....i didn't embellish anything at all though.

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    Haha, yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing a lot of people do. I didn't want to do any lying/exaggerating on my PS though, so I made it quite short. You only need to put the stuff the admissions people want to read, and that's not actually that much.
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    (Original post by Ellie4)
    Mmm exactly, that is what I mean bunnykins!
    Great minds!!

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    (Original post by Squishy)
    Haha, yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing a lot of people do. I didn't want to do any lying/exaggerating on my PS though, so I made it quite short. You only need to put the stuff the admissions people want to read, and that's not actually that much.
    I ran out of space for mine....had to keep redrafting it again and again till it finally fit into 53 lines.

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    Geoff, I'm willing to excuse your mad comments about football. Tell me though - which course are you applying to?
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    (Original post by mobbdeeprob)
    Geoff, I'm willing to excuse your mad comments about football. Tell me though - which course are you applying to?
    Lol!! I applied for law this year.....just waiting on the grades now :eek:

    I take it you're applying for law as well...correct?

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    (Original post by gzftan)
    I ran out of space for mine....had to keep redrafting it again and again till it finally fit into 53 lines.

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    Hmm...mine was only 31 lines, including the line breaks between paragraphs. I'm not usually that talkative. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Squishy)
    Hmm...mine was only 31 lines, including the line breaks between paragraphs. I'm not usually that talkative. :rolleyes:
    :eek: Really?!
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    (Original post by gzftan)
    Lol!! I applied for law this year.....just waiting on the grades now :eek:

    I take it you're applying for law as well...correct?

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    Yup. Where are your offers for? Good luck too!

    N.B I've probably asked this before, but I have a crap memory.
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    (Original post by Ellie4)
    :eek: Really?!
    Why so surprised?
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    (Original post by Squishy)
    Why so surprised?
    Beacuse mine's like 100 lines...
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    (Original post by mobbdeeprob)
    Yup. Where are your offers for? Good luck too!

    N.B I've probably asked this before, but I have a crap memory.
    Cheers...Cambridge hopefully ..backup is KCL

    Where are you gonna apply...do you know yet??

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