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    (Original post by Sycatonne23)
    Rehabilitation through providing useful workforce skills sure, not the psuedo-psychiatric rehabilitation we have now where every prisoner is treated as a victim of mental illness and individual responsibility is outsourced and dissipated.
    No, providing psychiatric help and generally not treating prisoners like **** also reduces crime.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Yes private police force. Cant see anything going wrong with that.
    Not private police force - government contracting to private companies the means of crime detection, which the police then use to arrest people. The private companies then get paid by results so if they detect more crime (and so do the taxpayer a favour) they get a windfall.
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    (Original post by MagicNMedicine)
    Not private police force - government contracting to private companies the means of crime detection, which the police then use to arrest people. The private companies then get paid by results so if they detect more crime (and so do the taxpayer a favour) they get a windfall.
    What does the means of crime detection mean? You want them to do all the investigating? Like ambulance chasers but for criminals?
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    (Original post by MagicNMedicine)
    Not private police force - government contracting to private companies the means of crime detection, which the police then use to arrest people. The private companies then get paid by results so if they detect more crime (and so do the taxpayer a favour) they get a windfall.
    That's a recipe for gaming the system and withholding or fabricating evidence.
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    That's a recipe for gaming the system and withholding or fabricating evidence.
    And then the evidence is proved fabricated, or the stuff they tried to withhold gets used anyway, and the contract is lost. I do love how the left seem to think that failure gets contracts renewed.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    And then the evidence is proved fabricated, or the stuff they tried to withhold gets used anyway, and the contract is lost. I do love how the left seem to think that failure gets contracts renewed.

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    I love how the right are so puritanical about outsourcing that they think it always equals improvement(we can all throw cheap shots).

    Incentivising people by paying per conviction is inviting problems. That's already evident through spurious parking tickets that are issued due to targets needing to be hit.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    And then the evidence is proved fabricated, or the stuff they tried to withhold gets used anyway, and the contract is lost. I do love how the left seem to think that failure gets contracts renewed.

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    When you lower crime, they will have less to investigate, so will catch less people, so they will make less money.

    You are incentivizing companies to do as little work as possible and that would be a best case scenario. At worst you'd be encouraging them to increase the amount of crime being commited, maybe for instance, by lobbying government for harsher laws that they can easily and efficiently investigate (ie, minor mes like parking fines, etc)
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    Unfortunately we are tough on crime when it comes to white men, but so-called "minorities" are always let off the hook.
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    No, providing psychiatric help and generally not treating prisoners like **** also reduces crime.
    Tell that to the innocent law abiding people living in council estates being terrorised by gangs, members of which are on the receiving end of liberal pseudo-psychiatry. Criminal scum need a good kick in the teeth.
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    (Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
    Look how tough the US is on crime. Look how much it's helped.
    Wrong! In the US, prisons are lawless. There is no sense of order. Prisoners turn on one another and that creates the "tough" environment. Not advocating that at all. We should introduce a sense of austerity in prisoners but that must be accompanied by order. Only punishment delivered by the state reduces crime, not the state outsourcing the business of punishment to prisoners amongst themselves.
 
 
 
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