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    When there is talk of division and prejudice in the UK’s university campuses it is often of a classist nature. Talk of background and state vs private schools dominates discussions about problems within higher education. But there is little attention to the racism that plagues our campuses, and white students and staff are being racist without even knowing it.

    But now three Bristol students have come forward with stories of their experiences at the hands of other students. They’ve called it “racism pure and simple”, telling us how they are abused with monkey chants in the street and subjected to racist mocking on Facebook and WhatsApp.

    All three students agree that the university should be doing more.

    We hope that by bringing their stories to light there can be increased discussion on the subject and steps can be made by the university and by other students to help prevent such events from occurring again.

    Names have been changed for legal reasons.



    Kelly
    It was on a Friday night with my friend, waiting to be let in to another friend’s place for pre-drinks. A bunch of young white guys who were walking towards us started making monkey noises. They continued to do so as they walked past us, laughing their heads off.

    I’m black, and my friend is also black. This was racism pure and simple. I unequivocally believe that these men were University of Bristol students and I just wish I could have filmed them or got some names and student numbers.

    The worst part of it all was the one white guy lagging behind who laughingly apologised on behalf of his friends. Like he wasn’t as racist as them all? If anything he is the worst kind of racists, at least the other guys were comfortable and open in their racism. He’s the type you’d talk to and get on with in lectures, but really, he thinks less of you just because of your skin colour.


    Timi
    It was during the summer exam season of second year that the racial attacks started. Henry* (another Bristol student) ganged up with two other people from my old school and decided to relentlessly torment me.

    I was called a series of monkey related names on twitter by the group such as Bobo, Bubbles and ‘Shit Flinger’. The group added me to a WhatsApp conversation and sent me pictures of a monkey based Pokémon that they had just acquired on Pokémon Go.

    Not wanting to be restricted to just a few social media platforms, the three of them then sent me snapchats where I was compared to a horse.

    Upon writing something about Black Lives Matter on Facebook, one of the group posted hateful comments on the status.

    The cherry on top of the cake was being sent this video where the group chant “Timi Ariyo, he swings where he wants” followed by loud gorilla chants.


    Dami
    Things started happening really early into my Uni experience. In freshers’ week after I had introduced myself to my flatmates one of them asked if he could call me “Danny” instead of Dami. A few weeks later a club picture of me looking really happy on a night out in Bunker was quickly captioned by one of my Uni sport teammates with “Is that watermelon next to the fried chicken?!”

    On a separate occasion one of my flatmate friends was introducing me to her friend from home and said: “This is Dami, he’s black but he’s really cool.”

    On another night out at a Bristol club when I was the only black person in a group of 15, the bouncers let everyone else through apart from me. They then searched me for ages and used a handheld metal detector before finally letting me through.

    I’ve lost count of the number of times that UOB students have asked me for drugs while in the smoking area of Motion.



    These stories reveal a worrying trend and should not be taken lightly. Can black students really feel at home in Bristol if this is the way that some white students behave?

    However, a spokesman for the University of Bristol denied that there was a big problem saying: “We have no reason to believe there is a wider problem at the University. We have received no complaints about racist behaviour by our students through our formal Unacceptable Behaviour procedure in the past three years and we have only disciplined one student for misconduct involving racism during this time.

    http://thetab.com/uk/bristol/2017/01...campaign=xpost




    It is very worrying how racist incidents are still being carried out in our universities, despite programs to educate people on diversity and tolerance. This is at least as serious as the rape epidemic in UK universities. What should be done about this?
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    Any large scale and detailed research done into this?

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    This is based on a "study" by SOAS and this article is just hilarious:

    These factors include BME students being ‘excluded’ from classroom discussions, as well as receiving ‘explicitly racist comments’. The report added: “Non-white students were comparatively less likely than their peers to be able to access the advantages of cultural familiarity with their tutor.” One student commented: “I find it hard to tell a white teacher my problems.”

    A growing concern among students has been that ‘old white lecturers’ are unable to teach BME students, but this has been met with significant criticism. Sir Anthony Seldon, vice-chancellor of Buckingham University argued that this claim is “unfair and untrue, and disrespectful to universities and members of staff. We are human beings, first, second, third, fourth, fifth.”
    Do underachieving BME (mainly Black, in practice) students really think that if they had BME lecturers they would suddenly witness a significant improvement in their intellectual capabilities (and thus academic performance)?

    Instead of feeling "excluded" because they cannot tell their tutors their personal problems (because they do not share the same skin colour), I would suggest they instead adopt a more introspective approach to identifying the causes of their failures.
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    (Original post by Palmyra)
    This is based on a "study" by SOAS and this article is just hilarious:



    Do underachieving BME (mainly Black, in practice) students really think that if they had BME lecturers they would suddenly witness a significant improvement in their intellectual capabilities (and thus academic performance)?

    Instead of feeling "excluded" because they cannot tell their tutors their personal problems (because they do not share the same skin colour), I would suggest they instead adopt a more introspective approach to identifying the causes of their failures.
    If these people feel they can't have a rapport with their tutors and professors because they are the 'wrong' skin colour, then they are the real racists in this situation.

    We're supposed to be moving away from this way of thinking and seeing each other as equal human beings. But these students actually seak to reinforce racial boundaries and division. They are more race-obsessed than anyone.

    And despite attending univerties that will bend over backwards to accommodate their insane demands and pander constantly, they seem to have it in their heads that they're attending college in 1960s Alabama, such is their level of self-righteous 'anti-racist' fanaticism and inflated sense of perpetual victimhood.
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      Is anyone going to comment on the actual issue in the OP which is black students facing racism or are we just going to repeat a discussion we already had in another thread because it's easier to not acknowledge that the actions of some students might be what fuels this victim complex? :lol:

      Oh and inb4 'it's fake'
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      (Original post by StrawbAri)
      Is anyone going to comment on the actual issue in the OP which is black students facing racism or are we just going to repeat a discussion we already had in another thread because it's easier to not acknowledge that the actions of some students might be what fuels this victim complex? :lol:

      Oh and inb4 'it's fake'
      Even if I waved my magic wand and removed all racism from university campuses, we'd still be hearing about racism on university campuses.
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      sticks and stones
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      Delusional people are always going to deny the existence of racism and you cannot help them.

      I am black. I have experienced racism numerous times, even when still at the university.

      It happens everyday.

      Many times I would just walk away because to fight back (even with words) would lead to a further stereotype of "the angry black woman." It is exhausting, it is humiliating, it is archaic, it is sad!

      I have had racist questions directed at me in the disguise of "trying to find out more."

      I have had racist stereotypes thrown at me. The kind of "how did you a black person find yourself in this class that only has white people"

      I have had the usual "do you live in trees?" "Can you speak to monkeys?" etc

      I have sat on a train, only for neighbor to stand and walk away to another seat.

      Interestingly, most of these racists are usually miserable people who are not anywhere near my status in life so I choose to ignore. I just cannot associate with them. I wont afford them the dignity of a conversation because they do not deserve it.
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        (Original post by Dandaman1)
        I'm not in the business of taking these people at their word. Even if I waved my magic wand and removed all racism from university campuses, we'd still be hearing about racism on university campuses.
        There's screenshots and a video in the tab article.

        It's not about making racism disappear though. It's about accepting it exists and calling out people that do it rather than brushing it under the carpet and saying 'get over it'.
        Obviously it's only a minority of disgruntled black people on twitter that get triggered easily but there are more of us that aren't as sensitive and call them out for their bs at the risk of getting called a coon or Uncle Tom.
        The thing is when reactions to stuff like this is to brush it under the carpet or to say 'deal with it', it becomes more difficult to be sympathetic to the problem our sjw counterparts are causing on campuses.
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        (Original post by Palmyra)
        This is based on a "study" by SOAS and this article is just hilarious:



        Do underachieving BME (mainly Black, in practice) students really think that if they had BME lecturers they would suddenly witness a significant improvement in their intellectual capabilities (and thus academic performance)?

        Instead of feeling "excluded" because they cannot tell their tutors their personal problems (because they do not share the same skin colour), I would suggest they instead adopt a more introspective approach to identifying the causes of their failures.
        You barely get any black lecurers at my uni, yet their are loads of serious black students who get on with their studies. I don't think anyone takes uni studies lightly, perhaps having no black lecturers/tutors is just one of the many reasons why some black kids don't succeed at uni?
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        (Original post by LegalDiaries)
        Delusional people are always going to deny the existence of racism and you cannot help them.

        I am black. I have experienced racism numerous times, even when still at the university.

        It happens everyday.

        Many times I would just walk away because to fight back (even with words) would lead to a further stereotype of "the angry black woman." It is exhausting, it is humiliating, it is archaic, it is sad!

        I have had racist questions directed at me in the disguise of "trying to find out more."

        I have had racist stereotypes thrown at me. The kind of "how did you a black person find yourself in this class that only has white people"

        I have had the usual "do you live in trees?" "Can you speak to monkeys?" etc

        I have sat on a train, only for neighbor to stand and walk away to another seat.

        Interestingly, most of these racists are usually miserable people who are not anywhere near my status in life so I choose to ignore. I just cannot associate with them. I wont afford them the dignity of a conversation because they do not deserve it.
        Yeah I totally get you. I feel even more isolated as a Black Muslim at uni, people expect so little of you, grade you down when you do well ("oh she forgot to do her citations correctly"), make assumptions about your home life. Its rubbish and I can't escape it.
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        Ugh. Disgusting.
        I haven't experienced any Racism but if I did I would be servely disappointed if the issue is not dealt with.
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        (Original post by LegalDiaries)
        Delusional people are always going to deny the existence of racism and you cannot help them.

        I am black. I have experienced racism numerous times, even when still at the university.

        It happens everyday.

        Many times I would just walk away because to fight back (even with words) would lead to a further stereotype of "the angry black woman." It is exhausting, it is humiliating, it is archaic, it is sad!

        I have had racist questions directed at me in the disguise of "trying to find out more."

        I have had racist stereotypes thrown at me. The kind of "how did you a black person find yourself in this class that only has white people"

        I have had the usual "do you live in trees?" "Can you speak to monkeys?" etc

        I have sat on a train, only for neighbor to stand and walk away to another seat.

        Interestingly, most of these racists are usually miserable people who are not anywhere near my status in life so I choose to ignore. I just cannot associate with them. I wont afford them the dignity of a conversation because they do not deserve it.
        Did you report them and what did the uni do?
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        (Original post by Mathemagicien)
        We have received no complaints about racist behaviour by our students through our formal Unacceptable Behaviour procedure
        If they don't report it how do they expect anything to change?
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        (Original post by Willy Pete)
        If they don't report it how do they expect anything to change?
        Probably difficult to make a report if it's a fairly low level incident committed by students you don't know the name of.e.g. being monkey chanted by a passing group of students.

        You get different crime statistics if you go ask people if they've been the victims of crime to if you look at crimes recorded by the police.

        e.g. a vandal bent the wiper arms off my car a few months ago - I didn't bother reporting it cos there's no chance of the police catching them and I wasn't interested in making an insurance claim. It'd be a waste of the cops time and mine.

        Maybe the uni should be surveying it's students rather than looking at what's been reported.
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        (Original post by Mathemagicien)
        When there is talk of division and prejudice in the UK’s university campuses it is often of a classist nature. Talk of background and state vs private schools dominates discussions about problems within higher education. But there is little attention to the racism that plagues our campuses, and white students and staff are being racist without even knowing it.

        But now three Bristol students have come forward with stories of their experiences at the hands of other students. They’ve called it “racism pure and simple”, telling us how they are abused with monkey chants in the street and subjected to racist mocking on Facebook and WhatsApp.

        All three students agree that the university should be doing more.

        We hope that by bringing their stories to light there can be increased discussion on the subject and steps can be made by the university and by other students to help prevent such events from occurring again.

        Names have been changed for legal reasons.



        Kelly
        It was on a Friday night with my friend, waiting to be let in to another friend’s place for pre-drinks. A bunch of young white guys who were walking towards us started making monkey noises. They continued to do so as they walked past us, laughing their heads off.

        I’m black, and my friend is also black. This was racism pure and simple. I unequivocally believe that these men were University of Bristol students and I just wish I could have filmed them or got some names and student numbers.

        The worst part of it all was the one white guy lagging behind who laughingly apologised on behalf of his friends. Like he wasn’t as racist as them all? If anything he is the worst kind of racists, at least the other guys were comfortable and open in their racism. He’s the type you’d talk to and get on with in lectures, but really, he thinks less of you just because of your skin colour.


        Timi
        It was during the summer exam season of second year that the racial attacks started. Henry* (another Bristol student) ganged up with two other people from my old school and decided to relentlessly torment me.

        I was called a series of monkey related names on twitter by the group such as Bobo, Bubbles and ‘Shit Flinger’. The group added me to a WhatsApp conversation and sent me pictures of a monkey based Pokémon that they had just acquired on Pokémon Go.

        Not wanting to be restricted to just a few social media platforms, the three of them then sent me snapchats where I was compared to a horse.

        Upon writing something about Black Lives Matter on Facebook, one of the group posted hateful comments on the status.

        The cherry on top of the cake was being sent this video where the group chant “Timi Ariyo, he swings where he wants” followed by loud gorilla chants.


        Dami
        Things started happening really early into my Uni experience. In freshers’ week after I had introduced myself to my flatmates one of them asked if he could call me “Danny” instead of Dami. A few weeks later a club picture of me looking really happy on a night out in Bunker was quickly captioned by one of my Uni sport teammates with “Is that watermelon next to the fried chicken?!”

        On a separate occasion one of my flatmate friends was introducing me to her friend from home and said: “This is Dami, he’s black but he’s really cool.”

        On another night out at a Bristol club when I was the only black person in a group of 15, the bouncers let everyone else through apart from me. They then searched me for ages and used a handheld metal detector before finally letting me through.

        I’ve lost count of the number of times that UOB students have asked me for drugs while in the smoking area of Motion.



        These stories reveal a worrying trend and should not be taken lightly. Can black students really feel at home in Bristol if this is the way that some white students behave?

        However, a spokesman for the University of Bristol denied that there was a big problem saying: “We have no reason to believe there is a wider problem at the University. We have received no complaints about racist behaviour by our students through our formal Unacceptable Behaviour procedure in the past three years and we have only disciplined one student for misconduct involving racism during this time.

        http://thetab.com/uk/bristol/2017/01...campaign=xpost




        It is very worrying how racist incidents are still being carried out in our universities, despite programs to educate people on diversity and tolerance. This is at least as serious as the rape epidemic in UK universities. What should be done about this?

        i wont consider the first case terrible case of racism tho.
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        (Original post by HucktheForde)
        i wont consider the first case terrible case of racism tho.
        Making monkey noises isn't a terrible case of racism?
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        (Original post by cherryred90s)
        Making monkey noises isn't a terrible case of racism?
        its being nasty, nasty people are everywhere.

        it isnt terrible because it doesnt cause actual lost , other than hurt feelings.
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        (Original post by MJlover)
        Yeah I totally get you. I feel even more isolated as a Black Muslim at uni, people expect so little of you, grade you down when you do well ("oh she forgot to do her citations correctly" ), make assumptions about your home life. Its rubbish and I can't escape it.
        Wait so did you do your citations correctly but whoever was marking your work claimed you didn't?
        (Sorry to ask it's just a little unclear or maybe I'm just missing the obvious ^^; )
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        (Original post by HucktheForde)
        its being nasty, nasty people are everywhere.

        it isnt terrible because it doesnt cause actual lost , other than hurt feelings.
        Racism causes no actual loss? Are you serious?
       
       
       
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