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How would you save the NHS?
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How would you save the NHS?
It's going to take A LOT to save the NHS - I think at the moment, it's more about managing the current problems we have with it to a sufficient level, and then giving the funding to ensure that we can improve and increase the infrastructure to be able to handle the increasing capacity as the population grows, and people live longer...

I think helping the services who help patients once they're discharged is key, because without those services ready to accept discharged patients, many beds are taken up when they could be given to someone who needs it...

Also, not that I'm blaming GPs but I do think we need to have longer opening hours for GP surgeries - not for every surgery, but for those where there's evidence that the extended hours would be used... For example where waiting times are 2 weeks + I think it'd be appropriate to at least trial longer opening hours... Also educating people on when to go to A&E and when they just need to man up a bit...
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I'd sort the care sector out first - many people are bed blocking for weeks because they can't go home due to the lack of carers to support them, so it takes weeks to get a care package


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STOP the goverment from making any further shady deals through private financing initiatives.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/...very-year.html


This is the reason the NHS is being bled dry not immigrants , not ageing populations, not smokers. Private companies charging abhorrent interest rates on building hospitas etc , this is what is causing the cash to be drained out of OUR NHS
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I'd say educate the people on how to use NHS in a correct way.
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Agreed on the care sector. Reopen care homes or community hospitals for there's somewhere for people to go between hospital and home, then at least they might have some beds to work with. Try and recruit/train more staff too so there's enough to do the jobs and be less reliant on agencies as this is very expensive, and less good. Finally sort out mental health services, so there can hopefully be more of an emphasis on early intervention and people get help before they reach crisis point. This would involve liaison and training between services ideally although that's difficult! Generally try and make it all less of a postcode lottery, especially in MH services.

Obviously this is money dependent, but not all of it needs to be. A little thought can go a long way at times. In some ways it's still improving, but in others just going downhill- mostly because of funding cuts, but not all. Hopefully over time the culture will start to shift and people will be able to think outside the box and on a larger scale a bit more, so there's room to change things before they reach breaking point. No pressure! :lol:

Moving this to N&CA too
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(Original post by mobbsy91)
It's going to take A LOT to save the NHS - I think at the moment, it's more about managing the current problems we have with it to a sufficient level, and then giving the funding to ensure that we can improve and increase the infrastructure to be able to handle the increasing capacity as the population grows, and people live longer...

I think helping the services who help patients once they're discharged is key, because without those services ready to accept discharged patients, many beds are taken up when they could be given to someone who needs it...

Also, not that I'm blaming GPs but I do think we need to have longer opening hours for GP surgeries - not for every surgery, but for those where there's evidence that the extended hours would be used... For example where waiting times are 2 weeks + I think it'd be appropriate to at least trial longer opening hours... Also educating people on when to go to A&E and when they just need to man up a bit...
Just out of interest how are you planning on staffing those extra opening hours when the likely reason that the wait for a GP appointment is so long is because they don't have enough doctors to start with?
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Simple.

What you get out of the NHS should be directly linked to what you've contributed.

Before you start, people desperately concerned with the plight of those who do not contribute could donate to a fund to cover them.

Win win, i dont have to pay for workshy ****s and others could get some amazing virtue signalling in!
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Oh **** it. I won't get into this.
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1. Sort out social care. Have places that people can go if they need intermediary care or are homeless.
2. Reverse privatisation.
3. Put funding back in place for nursing degrees
4. Ensure all hospitals are properly staffed - including giving incentive for people to stay in the country/come from other countries to work here.
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Teach people to be a little sharper with their general health. Quite a number of hospital visits are for completely avoidable problems that they could sort out themselves if they were just a little more aware.
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Educating people on the proper use of services.
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Oh **** it. I won't get into this.
I will - privatise it. Transform the health sector from a socialist service based on want and greed to an insurance service based on the free market.

The hardworking taxpayer shouldn't have to cough up for the benefit of jobless little oiks.
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(Original post by joe cooley)
Simple.

What you get out of the NHS should be directly linked to what you've contributed.

Before you start, people desperately concerned with the plight of those who do not contribute could donate to a fund to cover them.

Win win, i dont have to pay for workshy ****s and others could get some amazing virtue signalling in!
The whole point of the NHS is that it's universal and free at the point of delivery. Healthcare is a basic human right and a system where poor people worry about not having access to it is simply not acceptable.

And there are hardly any people out there who are actually "workshy". The vast majority of unemployed people actually do want to work. Stop listening to DM-esque propaganda.
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The whole point of the NHS is that it's universal and free at the point of delivery. Healthcare is a basic human right and a system where poor people worry about not having access to it is simply not acceptable.

And there are hardly any people out there who are actually "workshy". The vast majority of unemployed people actually do want to work. Stop listening to DM-esque propaganda.
Ever wondered why National Insurance includes the word insurance ?

Whoa!

The majority of the 1.6 million unemployed want to work while at the same time we need to import foreign labour to do the jobs Brits won't do?

Isn't it about time the Left got its story straight?

Anyway, under my scheme poor people wouldn't have to worry because people like you would contribute for them.

Imagine the kudos you would gain with your SJW chums!
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There are far too many managers, that is one problem. The other is when there are so many drunks who do stupid things.
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Having watched the two 'hospital' series epsiodes on bbc, it seems tory cuts to local governments have escalated the bed blocking crisis. In this show, the predominant issue was bed blocking, which seemed to be sourced from cash strapped councils, as well as families unable to support their relatives. We know the tories went to town with cuts to local government budgets. Similarly, the cuts to prison officer numbers were proved to be disasterous, and they've now backtracked.

Always worth remembering the uk spends a fraction on healthcare compared to the usa IN RELATIVE TERMS TO GDP. But you wouldn't think that.
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Always worth remembering the uk spends a fraction on healthcare compared to the usa IN RELATIVE TERMS TO GDP. But you wouldn't think that.
The sizes of the UK & US economies aren't exactly comparable so percentages of GDP spent on healthcare is a more accurate measure.
From the ONS 2014 source below it's apparent the UK & USA governments spend a very similar amount of GDP as a percentage on their healthcare. The main difference is that in the USA citizens also have to contribute large amounts which is not something we want over here.

http://visual.ons.gov.uk/how-does-uk...ternationally/

I would, however, be open to a charge of say £10 for all those over the age of 18 who are in work & not disabled for a visit to the GP.
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(Original post by joe cooley)
Simple.

What you get out of the NHS should be directly linked to what you've contributed.

Before you start, people desperately concerned with the plight of those who do not contribute could donate to a fund to cover them.

Win win, i dont have to pay for workshy ****s and others could get some amazing virtue signalling in!
Well now all our children are ****in dead, nice job.
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Strip a lot of the middle management and bureaucracy out.
Put a limit on the wages of the trust fund managers, who can pay themselves in the millions even if the fund is in the red.
Charge non-nationals on point of use (only British residents get free service), which can be checked with a valid drivers licence or passport.
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