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    I recently found out about an organisation which stems from The Nation of Islam, which basically hails black people as the supreme being, and all other races and cultures as being untrue, and threatning to the black race.

    Here are some of their ideals:

    1 - That black people are the original people of the planet earth.

    2 - That black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization.

    3 - That the science of Supreme Mathematics is the key to understanding man's relationship to the universe.

    4 - Islam is a natural way of life, not a religion.

    5 - That education should be fashioned to enable us to be self sufficient as a people.

    6 - That each one should teach one according to their knowledge.

    7 - That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.

    8 - That our children are our link to the future and they must be nurtured, respected, loved, protected and educated.

    9 - That the unified black family is the vital building block of the nation.

    There are more, but basically, the 5 Perecent dismiss all white people, and believe that all advances in science, politics etc were discovered by black people but stolen by white people.

    What are your views on this?
    Does anyone know any interesting info on any of this coz I'd like to find out more.
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    I've heard of them before...it's an American black supremacist organisation. Their website is here, and there's a page with some info here.

    Like all these organisations, it's dangerous and stupid.
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    (Original post by Squishy)
    I've heard of them before...it's an American black supremacist organisation. Their website is here, and there's a page with some info here.

    Like all these organisations, it's dangerous and stupid.
    Why is it dangerous and stupid.
    What are your views on their ideals?
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    Quite a few Wutang Clan lyrics have references to the 5pc Nation.
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    (Original post by mobbdeeprob)
    Quite a few Wutang Clan lyrics have references to the 5pc Nation.
    Yeah, quite a lot of Hip Hop artists/Rappers are part of the 5 Percent.

    Busta Rhymes is supposed to be a stong 5 Percenter.
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    (Original post by Mad Caddie)
    Why is it dangerous and stupid.
    Stupid because it's prejudiced against many other people and based on beliefs with no real evidence (but most organised religions fall under this category, so I won't say any more).

    And it's dangerous because it breeds ignorance and intolerance. It's easy for people to think of themselves as one of the "righteous 5%", and then believe everyone else to be wrong.

    I don't disagree with all their ideals. Number 8 is quite sensible for example. But I don't like the whole package.
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    The organisation isn't dangerous, it's highly amusing. Take for example the book "Blacked out by Whitewash", a piece of comedy genious which is hosted on the same site as the 5% network.



    http://www.ibiblio.org/nge/blacked/

    The 5 percenters on 'nappy hair':

    The Power that causes galaxies to spiral, and planets & atoms to spin; that causes the double helix spiral of the DNA molecules -this same spiraling power causes spiraling hair... otherwise known as NAPPY, kinky, curly, frizzy, wavy, WOOLLY hair! The words, SPIN, SPIRAL, and SPIRITUAL have common roots! The Supreme Power spins; spirals; it is spiritual. It moves or spirals the universe! The entire universe dances in spirals and rotations; everything in ti reflects the "SPIRaling, SPIRitual" essence out of which it is made! The "SPIRal," especially the Golden Spiral, is simultaneously the most profound motion and design in the universe -built into all lifeforms, from seashelss to man, to spiraling nappy hair! Your blood spirals through your veins! Plants spiral up from the soiil! And nappy hair spirals out from the hair roots! Ball your hand into a fist and slowly extend each finger and you will see for yourself how the tip of each finger opens in a golden spiral path! Straight-haired people also have a spiral on their heads, visible as a whorl pattern with its center in the back of the head, where their straight hai grows out slanting in the whorl's diretion. Wooly haired people have both, the whorl pattern and the individually spiraling strands of helixal, coiled, spring-like, nappy hair ... the choice of the gods!
    The 5 percenters on the 'creation' of white people:

    Using a selective breeding process called "grafting," Yacub created whites as a "race of devils" to rule earth for a limited period. (see page 28) Interestingly, the ancient Egyptians recored the Tamahu, which means created white people. Egyptian writings also refer to whites as Typhonians or People of Seth, both meaning "the devils." After these "white devils" were first released into the Black community of the Near East 6000 years ago, they caused sever strife, thus the Africans rounded them up, stripped them of everything and exiled them tothe caves and hils of the caucasus Mountains. This explains the sudden appearance of white people in this region. To prevent their escaping Africans installed a series of guarded walls blocking all exits along that area from one sea to the other! - thus "roping" them off (hence the word Europe). These walls have been witnessed and recorded by many European writers, including Pliny. Thus, totally cut off from civilization, the whites degenerated into uncivilized, nomadic savages. They remained this way for 2000 years until 'Allah merifully sent an Egyptian priest named Musa or Moses to civilize them.' This explains the otherwise unknown reason why suddenly about 2000 B.C., vast hordes of these white barbarians left the Caucasus region and stormed all the (Black) centers of civilizations throughout Mesopatamia, the Near East, Africa and India, destroying and usurping them. Thus, the whiteman's arrival signalled destruction for all these civilizations and the beginning of the whiteman's rise to power.
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    (Original post by benm)
    The organisation isn't dangerous, it's highly amusing.
    Yeah, but some people actually take it seriously and live their lives by it. :rolleyes: They should really rename themselves the "Ten Percenters", since they fall in their own category of the ten percent of evil people who mislead others.
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    (Original post by Mad Caddie)
    Yeah, quite a lot of Hip Hop artists/Rappers are part of the 5 Percent.

    Busta Rhymes is supposed to be a stong 5 Percenter.
    interesting because I can imagine the media reaction if Eminem turned out to be a KKK member.
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    Just what we need - another groop to spread intolerance. :rolleyes:
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    "Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head."

    I've heard this before!

    RZA - "The Sickness", methinks.

    EDIT: Haha, this song is basically a manifesto of the 5pc Nation - cheers for the perspective guys!

    (Original post by Mad Caddie)
    4 - Islam is a natural way of life, not a religion.
    Inter alia, what I find remarkably bizarre about black racialists is that they think Islam is “their” religion. This is odd because:

    1) Mohammad detested black people (in the Hadith, for example, Mohammad is claimed to have said that if a man dreams about a black woman he is cursed) and had several black slaves.
    2) Arabs, in league with African tribal chiefs, enslaved black people for centuries. They introduced slavery to the Western European powers in the 16th century and sold them to us.
    3) Arabs generally view blacks as inferior. In the Sudan, for example, Arabs are busy exterminating blacks and taking over their land.

    Islam is the religion (actually Arabic cultural imperialism) of the 7th century Arab desert warrior, not a universal religion and certainly not the black people’s religion.
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    Have a look at these 'ideals' as compared to the lyrics of The Sickness. Parallels?

    1 - That black people are the original people of the planet earth.
    2 - That black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization.

    "Cursed the ancestors and the seed of the assailant"

    "And when you went astray, we sent prophets to reveal things
    And left scriptures behind to fulfill things
    But you still wanna kill things, rob and steal things
    So don't blame us when it's time to fulfill things and kill
    Kings"


    3 - That the science of Supreme Mathematics is the key to understanding man's relationship to the universe.

    "Science of 25 thousand year millennium"

    4 - Islam is a natural way of life, not a religion.

    "Bless the seed who prays the Most High, without askin' why"

    5 - That education should be fashioned to enable us to be self sufficient as a people.

    "The World's greatest mind
    Bob Digital
    'Man with no mother'"


    6 - That each one should teach one according to their knowledge.

    "Your incorrect retrospect on the situation"

    "The sinners from the men who exiled the Indians from India
    Who's times can't be measured linear
    In all tribes on Earth who can't find a friendlier group of
    people"


    7 - That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.

    "Allah U Akbar"
    "Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head".


    8 - That our children are our link to the future and they must be nurtured, respected, loved, protected and educated.

    "Imagine the feelin' of growin' up, ten children
    Stuffed inside a shack, in the project buildings
    Women, infants and coupons, one stole camel soup on
    Stressed out with four kids, aborter
    Next door the dope fiend neighbour tryin' to sell his little
    daughter"


    "The only way we had to live was survivin' off mommy's lovin'"

    9 - That the unified black family is the vital building block of the nation.

    "The only way we had to live was survivin' off mommy's lovin'"

    There are more, but basically, the 5 Perecent dismiss all white people, and believe that all advances in science, politics etc were discovered by black people but stolen by white people.

    "You small as to die in my sentence, I speak with vengeance
    Snatch up 17 million plus 2 million Indians"

    "The merciless, the Earth is damp from blood spillage
    Cursed the ancestors and the seed of the assailant
    Dissect his body like an alien"


    "Even though we see through your wicked intentions
    We gave you land to experiment with your inventions
    But you strive for global lynchin', extension
    But it's yourself that will become extinct
    You inherit this power to think and build things
    The free wills of love, not hate or kill things"
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    its like any other silly organisation..its not like they have much influence
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    also im not taking the p*ss...but i love the way black people think ancient Egyptians were black...they werent!
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    (Original post by ThornsnRoses)
    also im not taking the p*ss...but i love the way black people think ancient Egyptians were black...they werent!
    What do you mean they weren't?

    In Africa there are basically two predominant racial classifications:

    Simply put - the Sahara desert provides the physical split between the two.

    But then this is sticky ground, seeing as the concept of race has feck all to do with science.
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    (Original post by Biggles)
    Inter alia, what I find remarkably bizarre about black racialists is that they think Islam is “their” religion. This is odd because:

    1) Mohammad detested black people (in the Hadith, for example, Mohammad is claimed to have said that if a man dreams about a black woman he is cursed) and had several black slaves.
    2) Arabs, in league with African tribal chiefs, enslaved black people for centuries. They introduced slavery to the Western European powers in the 16th century and sold them to us.
    3) Arabs generally view blacks as inferior. In the Sudan, for example, Arabs are busy exterminating blacks and taking over their land.

    Islam is the religion (actually Arabic cultural imperialism) of the 7th century Arab desert warrior, not a universal religion and certainly not the black people’s religion.
    Sorry to be very pendantic, but Islam detesting Blacks is not totally correct, this is one thing that is contracdicted in the Koran as it does also state than Mohamed had a black prayer caller.

    I think what people think when interpreting religious books is that they assume that because someone helps one person the would feel that same about all similar people.

    Personally, I don't really agree with any organisation which feels that the deciding factor is color of skin.
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    It basically sounds like a very racist organisation. How many people are followers? Are there many in this country?
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    (Original post by ThornsnRoses)
    also im not taking the p*ss...but i love the way black people think ancient Egyptians were black...they werent!
    Some were. Never heard of the Nubian era?

    (Original post by Howard)
    Some were. Never heard of the Nubian era?
    The Egyptians distinguished themselves from the Nubians.

    The Egyptians are not, and never were, black.
 
 
 
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