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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Ok true , GCSE is useless. There are plenty of people with economic degrees that are right wing . If you were so good at economics you wouldn't copy and paste . To try and disprove friedman and other prominent economists you must be ludicrous .Again you ignored my points , I doubt you backed austerity if 2010 when the IMF and OCED backed them. Actually I backed all my points up , you on the other hand just copied and pasted the same thing over and over. To think you won is delusional
    You have literally taken one of my points, changed 'Keynes' to 'Friedman' and repeated it to me.
    Ignored =/= addressed and disproved all of them with indisputable evidence.


    Of course I didn't back austerity in 2010, because I knew it was a bad idea. That's what the IMF and OECD ended up admitting.

    'Backed up' does not mean make random statements with no evidence and gaping holes in its premise.

    (Original post by fleky6910)
    John Major left a very strong economy in 1997 and blair messed it up within years. Major left Tony blair ( the most successful economy inherited) an extremely strong economy only for blair to spend it away on public services and put us back into a deficit.
    Ronald regans policy gave the us the longest sustained growth ever and the boom lasted 92 months and the economy grew by a third). The regan era restored high sustainable growth.

    So you want us to take on more debt , this shows lefties would have increased the debt more than Osborne.

    All the evidence shows that austerity can and has worked. But all economists disagree , and we just disagree!
    You constantly use survivor ship bias as ur argument! The reason socialism hasn't survived is because no one wants it!
    This, for example, had none of its points backed up with evidence. This was the case with the vast, vast majority of your posts.

    Of course I copied over the same thing, because you kept ignoring it, which is why I won.
    The real delusion would be thinking that you were successful in that debate in any way.
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    Of course I didn't back austerity in 2010, because I knew it was a bad idea. That's what the IMF and OECD ended up admitting.

    'B.
    LOL , so as they were wrong once , they can be wrong again. So now the IMF side with you , they are right? Hypocritical. They could be wrong about keynesian economics.
    I don't really mind right wing keynesian economics though , lets see how Trump fares



    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    You have literally taken one of my points, changed 'Keynes' to 'Friedman' and repeated it to me.
    Ignored =/= addressed and disproved all of them with indisputable evidence.


    Of course I didn't back austerity in 2010, because I knew it was a bad idea. That's what the IMF and OECD ended up admitting.

    'Backed up' does not mean make random statements with no evidence and gaping holes in its premise.



    This, for example, had none of its points backed up with evidence. This was the case with the vast, vast majority of your posts.

    Of course I copied over the same thing, because you kept ignoring it, which is why I won.
    The real delusion would be thinking that you were successful in that debate in any way.
    (Original post by fleky6910)
    That Bearded Man here you go as you asked for evidence
    Here is my source,
    http://www.politico.eu/article/labou...lection-blair/
    The fact is they inherited an excellent , stable economy with the deficit falling.

    Further sources confirming John Major did a good job and Blair inherited a good economy:
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ccess-possible
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...enied-him.html
    By 1997 employment was rising, growth stable, and the deficit was well under control, meaning that Gordon Brown as chancellor inherited the most benign economic scenario for any British government of the last century.
    Perhaps you could tell us a better economy inherited post WW II than the one Blair inherited?


    The fact is labour was running a deficit pre 2008 when they shouldn't have.
    "From Sweden to Australia, sensible governments paid down debt in the boom years. Labour didn’t. Blair offers his own definition: a ‘cyclically-adjusted current Budget balance’. Yes, you really need to play with words to hide the basic fact that Blair and Brown were borrowing like there’s no tomorrow. Here’s a chart showing the gap between what Labour spent, and what it received in tax. After April 2001, Labour simply gave up on balanced budgets."(Quote from http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2013/04...-for-the-debt/)



    Really? I haven't avoided any points.



    Really? Perhaps show the memepage I've used. I haven't used one, by all means look for it and show where I've copied. You have no evidence to show this.
    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Lol , ask me to back up a claim and go back it up for me. Thanks!! I found the article as well !
    https://www.gov.uk/government/histor...ers/john-major
    So it seems I did back up my points so its you who are delusional
    As Prime Minister Sir John Major oversaw Britain's longest period of continuous economic growth
    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Yes, Labour ran a deficit when they could've maintained a surplus,
    (Don't copy's and paste from the guardian saying this web to into public services and somebody other lefty ball crap, it doesn't change the fact)
    So yes I clearly did show evidence
    Changing keynes to Friedman is still a valid point
    There you go , the Texas sharpshooter is at work again Connor27
    You also got completely outclassed by heri2rs
    Even the former labour leader That Bearded Man despite disagreeing with me admits I used evidence.
    I have never read a more moronic argument in my life , please do sit back and winge as the left continues to loose.
    Capitalism is great, Capitalism is winning. All you can do is winge about it.
    I amazed our deputy prime minister is so stupid and I look forward to ousting you in May.

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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    LOL , so as they were wrong once , they can be wrong again. So now the IMF side with you , they are right? Hypocritical. They could be wrong about keynesian economics.
    That's not even a point. You're not helping yourself here.

    I don't really mind right wing keynesian economics though , lets see how Trump fares
    Your dedication to economic policies on the pure basis of them being 'right-wing' is farcical.

    So it seems I did back up my points so its you who are delusional
    As Prime Minister Sir John Major oversaw Britain's longest period of continuous economic growth

    (Don't copy's and paste from the guardian saying this web to into public services and somebody other lefty ball crap, it doesn't change the fact)
    So yes I clearly did show evidence
    Changing keynes to Friedman is still a valid point
    There you go , the Texas sharpshooter is at work again Connor27
    You also got completely outclassed by heri2rs
    Even the former labour leader That Bearded Man despite disagreeing with me admits I used evidence.
    I have never read a more moronic argument in my life , please do sit back and winge as the left continues to loose.
    Capitalism is great, Capitalism is winning. All you can do is winge about it.
    I amazed our deputy prime minister is so stupid and I look forward to ousting you in May.

    And the typical random outburst with weak claims and no valid points.
    You claimed to have backed up all of your points, that was one of the few had attempts at evidence, but the points themselves were poor.

    And now you retreat by tagging in others to fight your battle for you and turning their arguments into soundbites because it is an indefensible position.

    Your propaganda on socialism also have no grounding in fact, they are typical right-wing rhetoric.

    I will repeat my earlier statement: stop making random claims and arguments when you clearly have no significant knowledge on the subject, nor any skill in presenting a valid argument.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    That's not even a point. You're not helping yourself here.

    Your dedication to economic policies on the pure basis of them being 'right-wing' is farcical.



    And the typical random outburst with weak claims and no valid points.
    You claimed to have backed up all of your points, that was one of the few had attempts at evidence, but the points themselves were poor.

    And now you retreat by tagging in others to fight your battle for you and turning their arguments into soundbites because it is an indefensible position.

    Your propaganda on socialism also have no grounding in fact, they are typical right-wing rhetoric.

    I will repeat my earlier statement: stop making random claims and arguments when you clearly have no significant knowledge on the subject, nor any skill in presenting a valid argument.
    Again dodged all the points like you normally do.
    Actually your laughable I backed all my points up with graphs and links and you say oh you didn't back your points up. The point you picked above was clearly backed by several sources including Goc.uk, I have highlighted it in bold but you appear to b blind.I'll repeat myself stop copying and pasting the guardian and passing It of as your own!
    Its a worry we have a deputy prime minister so aggressive, intent on personal attacks, blind and can't even debate himself and when he looses ( Just because some biased lefties said you won your ego is up), goes on a rant. You obviously have no knowledge on the subject either as you resort to copy and paste. Again other posters have out classed you , this doesn't mean I'm tagging people in to fight for me , it still means you got owned by heri2rs , dodged all his points as well as mine and you look like a complete and utter moron. I hope your ousted in a few months time
    Even nutjobs like Ben Carson are smarter than you , I can't even take you seriously for a second.



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    (Original post by Shy fx)
    LOL i cant take you seriously after you literally made a spelling error while calling me stupid . Its youre not your , you mongoloid. Basic things
    Mongoloid. God, you disgust me. Your inherent disregard for everyone's opinions, and your support for a man who is illogical enough to believe global warming is a hoax, and that women with "fake phoney tits" can be "grabbed by the pussy" just shows what kind of a person you are.

    Go. Support your almighty saviour, who has barely been in office for a day and hasn't delivered on any promises yet. Sexist and gullible, god, you fit right in with him.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    but the points themselves were poor.
    Your opinion , please continue to moan as capitalism wins!
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)


    Your dedication to economic policies on the pure basis of them being 'right-wing' is farcical.



    And the typical random outburst with weak claims and no valid points.
    You claimed to have backed up all of your points, that was one of the few had attempts at evidence, but the points themselves were poor.
    Not really doubt you are a fan of trump or were a fan of regan
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Again dodged all the points like you normally do.
    Actually your laughable I backed all my points up with graphs and links and you say oh you didn't back your points up. The point you picked above was clearly backed by several sources including Goc.uk, I have highlighted it in bold but you appear to b blind.I'll repeat myself stop copying and pasting the guardian and passing It of as your own!
    Its a worry we have a deputy prime minister so aggressive, intent on personal attacks, blind and can't even debate himself and when he looses ( Just because some biased lefties said you won your ego is up), goes on a rant. You obviously have no knowledge on the subject either as you resort to copy and paste. Again other posters have out classed you , this doesn't mean I'm tagging people in to fight for me , it still means you got owned by heri2rs , dodged all his points as well as mine and you look like a complete and utter moron. I hope your ousted in a few months time
    Even nutjobs like Ben Carson are smarter than you , I can't even take you seriously for a second.
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    The stupidity of recycling my criticism and directing it at me is boundless.

    "Hurr durr copy n paster"

    More random outbursts claiming to have won with no substantiation in fact or reality.

    You claimed to have backed up all of your points, I'll repeat: that was one of the few had attempts at evidence, but the points themselves were poor. The fact that you continue to claim this is not helping yourself in anyone's eyes. If you had kept your head down in the MHoC until you were properly able to debate or knowledgeable on a subject that came up, you wouldn't be seen as an idiot by several members of the house.

    Again you retreat by tagging in others to fight your battle for you and turning their arguments into soundbites because it is an indefensible position and you cannot debate properly. His point was fundamentally flawed as I pointed out.

    Claiming fact to be opinion isn't a valid counterargument.

    Insults are not a valid form of argument either.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    T, I'll repeat: that was one of the few had attempts at evidence.
    Oh and every example you were given were just an 'exception' or 'rare' . Its funny how you claim I didn't back my points up when I clearly did. If you want articles for some points and I can happily link you to them but I don't think that adds much to the debate.

    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    but the points themselves were poor.
    Biased left wing opinion
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)

    Insults are not a valid form of argument either.
    You were the one who started personal attacks, not me
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    . His point was fundamentally flawed as I pointed out.
    Now your making up stuff , you addressed one of his points weakly and ignored the rest.
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    You were the one who started personal attacks, not me
    I didn't resort to abusive language as a response to a point.

    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Now your making up stuff , you addressed one of his points weakly and ignored the rest.
    He had one, single point pulled off a right-wing blog that was easily dismantled. You're saying I ignored things to try and compensate for the fact that you don't know what you're talking about.

    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Oh and every example you were given were just an 'exception' or 'rare' . Its funny how you claim I didn't back my points up when I clearly did. If you want articles for some points and I can happily link you to them but I don't think that adds much to the debate.

    Biased left wing opinion
    There's no point arguing with you as it's clear you've abandoned all sense of reason or rational thought.

    Throughout the debate you displayed a clear lack of subject knowledge beyond what you had furiously googled.

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    (Original post by DMcGovern;69711274[b)
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    Throughout the debate you displayed a clear lack of subject knowledge beyond what you had furiously googled.
    My taughts exactly but straight back at you
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    My taughts exactly but straight back at you
    You sound like a 12 year old who hasn't yet discovered the phrase "I know you are but what am I".

    This sums up your approach to the entire debate.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    You sound like a 12 year old who hasn't yet discovered the phrase "I know you are but what am I".

    This sums up your approach to the entire debate.
    That makes no sense , its just babble like you have the whole debate.
    Hats of to you though , you finally didn't copy and paste!
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    My taughts exactly but straight back at you
    And which of your students will be delivering this damning condemnation?
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    That makes no sense , its just babble like you have the whole debate.
    Hats of to you though , you finally didn't copy and paste!
    It does make sense to those with an IQ higher than 10.

    Come back when you can actually spell and understand how economics work.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    And which of your students will be delivering this damning condemnation?
    Des' back up has arrived , now I'm actually scared
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    It does make sense to those with an IQ higher than 10.

    Come back when you can actually spell and understand how economics work.
    Come back when your prepared to apply reasoning.
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Des' back up has arrived , now I'm actually scared
    rolls sleeves up
 
 
 
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