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VP66 – Capital Punishment Referendum Petition 2017 (Amended) Watch

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    As many are of the opinion, Aye
    44.00%
    On the contrary, No
    38.00%
    Abstain
    18.00%

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    VP66 – Capital Punishment Referendum Petition 2017 (Amended), Connor27 (seconded by Quamquam123 MP)
    We the undersigned call for a referendum on this with the question: "Should the United Kingdom reintroduce the capability of judges to consider awarding a penalty of capital punishment where it is just to do so?"


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    This petition legislates for a referendum on the reintroduction of capital punishment in the UK.

    We in the libertarian party have noticed the multiple opinion polls showing a clear majority among the general public for reinstatement; but despite this because of politicians being personally against the issue is ignored.

    Debate is healthy, and even though members of the libertarian party may be opposed to capital punishment, we believe that the debate must be held due to popular demand, and the people deserve a say.

    The referendum question has been amended for vote.


    I've never seen one of these in my time in the House. It will have normal petition rules, with the exception that the petition will be binding, subject to CT approval. The referendum itself, as no bill has been submitted to implement such a change, will not be binding.
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    The question sounds worse now.

    Nay.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    VP66 – Capital Punishment Referendum Petition 2017 (Amended), Connor27 (seconded by Quamquam123 MP)
    We the undersigned call for a referendum on this with the question: "Should the United Kingdom reintroduce the capability of judges to consider awarding a penalty of capital punishment where it is just to do so?"


    Notes
    This petition legislates for a referendum on the reintroduction of capital punishment in the UK.

    We in the libertarian party have noticed the multiple opinion polls showing a clear majority among the general public for reinstatement; but despite this because of politicians being personally against the issue is ignored.

    Debate is healthy, and even though members of the libertarian party may be opposed to capital punishment, we believe that the debate must be held due to popular demand, and the people deserve a say.

    The referendum question has been amended for vote.


    I've never seen one of these in my time in the House. It will have normal petition rules, with the exception that the petition will be binding, subject to CT approval. The referendum itself, as no bill has been submitted to implement such a change, will not be binding.
    Regarding your decision at the bottom, it is the incorrect process. In the case of both the monarchy and EU referendums an act of parliament was brought before the House to leglislate for a referendum and this should be no different.

    The correct procedure here is as with all petitions to grant the government x days to reply to the peition and then if not ask the opposition. They will then bring a bill before parliament legislating for the exact question and (subject to approval) timeframe.

    Petitions should in no way be legally binding.
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    As with all petitions i voted to Abstain and will consider the will of parliament afterward or once a bill is brought.
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    (Original post by Toronto353)
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    You were around. I'm sure i'm remembering both correctly (certainly the first since i wrote the bill).
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    You were around. I'm sure i'm remembering both correctly (certainly the first since i wrote the bill).
    I propose you check the constitution, specifically 11.3 https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wik...1._Referendums

    11.3 A referendum can be called by process of a Bill being passed or a petition of MP's.
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    I'm sorry. I understand why this was proposed but I wouldn't feel comfortable voting any way other than no.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I propose you check the constitution, specifically 11.3 https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wik...1._Referendums

    11.3 A referendum can be called by process of a Bill being passed or a petition of MP's.
    Thanks.

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    Fez.. since i don't agree with petitions being able to generate referenda please change my vote to Nay.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Thanks.

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    Fez.. since i don't agree with petitions being able to generate referenda please change my vote to Nay.
    One Abstention has been changed to a No for seat 23.
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    I will always be vehemently opposed to capital punishment but I support this bill. It's a good debate opportunity for the House and a way to attract new members.
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    Ayes to the right: 22
    Noes to the left: 19
    Abstentions: 9
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    Turnout: 100%

    I will be getting in contact with the CT this evening about the petition, to ensure it happens within a timely manner. Due to there being no precedent to go against in recent times, I will suggest to them linking the petition in their side bar/ the vote at the side, as well as looking at how we can campaign for either side.

    As for a timeline, we know that the CT have a lot on their plate and it won't happen immediately, but when I know anything I'll let you guys know
 
 
 
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