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V1103 – Firearms Bill 2017, ByronicHero (seconded by Gladstone1885 MP)
Firearms Bill 2017

Firearm ownership is the great equaliser; it helps women and otherwise vulnerable people protect themselves against violent crime. In 1997 we banned possession of almost all handguns in response to the Dunblane Massacre. Intentional homicide climbed to a peak in 2002, and is still higher today than it was in 1996 (the year before the law took effect). As such, an assumption that such a policy would increase murder rates is misguided. Many other countries permit firearm ownership and enjoy relatively low homicide rates. People like to point to the US as if it is aa useful comparison. It isn't. They have a culture of gang violence that is nothing like ours.

Widespread ownership of handguns would arguably reduce the severity of mass shootings as the aggressor would be shot by one of the many would-be victims carrying them.

BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-

1. Firearms

(1) The Firearms (Amendment) Act 1988 is repealed.
(2) The Firearms (Amendment) Act 1997 is repealed.
(3) Firearms Certificates are issued on a “shall issue” basis, and cannot be revoked or denied unless the applicant has a criminal conviction for an offence against the person, or a history of serious mental instability.

2. Commencement, short title and extent

(1) This may be cited as the Firearms Act 2017
(2) This act shall extend to England; and
(3) Shall come into force immediately following Royal Assent; and
(4) Shall be provided to the Welsh Assembly Government for their consideration; and
(5) Subject to changes made by the National Assembly for Wales; and
(6) Subject to an affirmative vote shall come into force immediately following Royal Assent.
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Roll in the Nays on the baseless idea that more guns=more crime.
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No, if you are going to legalise gun ownership the bill needs to contain more detail about mental health tests, shooting lessons, arming the police to counter the increase in criminals carrying guns, and if all criminal convictions will be viewed with the same severity.
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I'm shocked the socialists are backing this bill!!
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I'm shocked the socialists are backing this bill!!
Makes their downfall easier
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Makes their suicide easier
They don't need to commit suicide, socialism is dying regardless as we speak.
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No, if you are going to legalise gun ownership the bill needs to contain more detail about mental health tests, shooting lessons, arming the police to counter the increase in criminals carrying guns, and if all criminal convictions will be viewed with the same severity.
Definitely agree that this bill is lacking in terms of checks and balances, however I feel it is still worth it to push for legalisation.
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Definitely agree that this bill is lacking in terms of checks and balances, however I feel it is still worth it to push for legalisation.
Checks and security stuff can be policies brewed up in Whitehall, I believe the legislation is sufficient. It's unfortunate so many people evidently disagree.
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Checks and security stuff can be policies brewed up in Whitehall, I believe the legislation is sufficient. It's unfortunate so many people evidently disagree.
Well, they have been indoctrinated into the standard "there are only two countries in the world" mentality

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Makes their downfall easier
Downfall lol

Did you censor yourself or did someone else censor you?
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Downfall lol

Did you censor yourself or did someone else censor you?
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