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    So I've tried to narrow down where I want to go for a while, and I decided on Bangor for a number of reasons; I'm looking specifically at these two subjects.
    Which do you think would be better?

    I did think of some pros and cons for each:

    History (MArts, 4 years)
    + Graduate with a Masters, and don't need to worry about funding/application
    + More specialist training and wider range of units
    + Masters = more employable than BA, I think
    - History doesn't seem too employable
    - Would be aiming for GDL anyway, or PhD History. Either's fine.

    Law with History (LLB, 3 years)
    + Law generally seems to be considered more highly than History alone
    + QLD, and works in Ireland (where I want to go for postgrad)
    + More direction than just History, without having to give it up.
    - I don't want City firms but I know RG/Oxbridge are much better for it
    - Seems like an extremely large workload, (and I'm a hard worker mainly)
    - Not entirely sure Law is viable for PG research like History is.

    Please note, I'm intending to move to Ireland after either degree so I'm not very concerned with how each Law uni ranks in the UK.
    I also don't much want to go to a Russell Group for it, and I'm not eligible for Oxbridge.

    please don't start a flame war i love you all
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    (Original post by SkyRees)
    So I've tried to narrow down where I want to go for a while, and I decided on Bangor for a number of reasons; I'm looking specifically at these two subjects.
    Which do you think would be better?

    I did think of some pros and cons for each:

    History (MArts, 4 years)
    + Graduate with a Masters, and don't need to worry about funding/application
    + More specialist training and wider range of units
    + Masters = more employable than BA, I think
    - History doesn't seem too employable
    - Would be aiming for GDL anyway, or PhD History. Either's fine.

    Law with History (LLB, 3 years)
    + Law generally seems to be considered more highly than History alone
    + QLD, and works in Ireland (where I want to go for postgrad)
    + More direction than just History, without having to give it up.
    - I don't want City firms but I know RG/Oxbridge are much better for it
    - Seems like an extremely large workload, (and I'm a hard worker mainly)
    - Not entirely sure Law is viable for PG research like History is.

    Please note, I'm intending to move to Ireland after either degree so I'm not very concerned with how each Law uni ranks in the UK.
    I also don't much want to go to a Russell Group for it, and I'm not eligible for Oxbridge.

    please don't start a flame war i love you all
    You've missed the equal consideration deadline. You will need to check with Bangor first to see if either of these courses are still accepting applications.

    Oh and what are the entry requirements, and your predicted grades?

    And why are you not "eligible" for Oxbridge (aside from the fact you've missed their deadline by miles).
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    Would be aiming for GDL anyway, or PhD History. Either's fine.
    I don't think you should do a M.Art if you are considering postgraduate study. You cannot know in advance what will interest you in three years, you might develop a passion for an aspect of history that Bangor does not do or isn't very good at.

    You should also check with the Arts and Humanities Research Council (or whatever the Irish equivalent is if you intend to do a PhD in Ireland) and ask what their position is on integrated master's degrees. If they don't consider them equivalent to a postgraduate masters then you may have to do a master's degree anyway to qualify for PhD funding.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    You've missed the equal consideration deadline. You will need to check with Bangor first to see if either of these courses are still accepting applications.

    Oh and what are the entry requirements, and your predicted grades?

    And why are you not "eligible" for Oxbridge (aside from the fact you've missed their deadline by miles).
    I'm applying from UCAS Extra; I've asked and they have said they do participate in it, so I can if either course is still there.

    I'm a gap year applicant with 144 points. Both courses ask for 142 so I do meet the requirements.

    I'm not eligible for Oxbridge because my GCSEs weren't amazing due to extenuating circumstances and my A Levels were AABb.

    (Original post by Snufkin)
    I don't think you should do a M.Art if you are considering postgraduate study. You cannot know in advance what will interest you in three years, you might develop a passion for an aspect of history that Bangor does not do or isn't very good at.


    You should also check with the Arts and Humanities Research Council (or whatever the Irish equivalent is if you intend to do a PhD in Ireland) and ask what their position is on integrated master's degrees. If they don't consider them equivalent to a postgraduate masters then you may have to do a master's degree anyway to qualify for PhD funding.
    Thank you for the advice, I'll get on that. I'd assumed it worked the same as MSci because of how popular they are, but I'll do a bit more research there.
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    (Original post by SkyRees)
    I'm applying from UCAS Extra; I've asked and they have said they do participate in it, so I can if either course is still there.

    I'm a gap year applicant with 144 points. Both courses ask for 142 so I do meet the requirements.

    I'm not eligible for Oxbridge because my GCSEs weren't amazing due to extenuating circumstances and my A Levels were AABb.
    I know it's moot now but you could still have applied, especially if you had ECs. With Oxford, for example, their tests (HAT/LNAT) are more important than GCSEs/ASs.

    Anyway, good luck with your application to Bangor
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    (Original post by jneill)
    I know it's moot now but you could still have applied, especially if you had ECs. With Oxford, for example, their tests (HAT/LNAT) are more important than GCSEs/ASs.

    Anyway, good luck with your application to Bangor
    Huh, really? My school heavily crusaded the idea you shouldn't bother if you don't have more than 6 A*s (I have 2) and didn't get AAA ar AS (AABB). Damn, that would've been good to know ;-;

    Ah well. Thank you nonetheless
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    Integrated masters in the Arts sounds like a nonsense intended only to secure a further year of government funding at the student's point of entry. Is there an exit option, i.e. to leave with a BA after 3 years?
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    Integrated masters in the Arts sounds like a nonsense intended only to secure a further year of government funding at the student's point of entry. Is there an exit option, i.e. to leave with a BA after 3 years?
    MSci programmes are relatively common as well and fairly respected for the same principle.
    Yes, if you say so before the end of Year 2.
 
 
 
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