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    (Original post by discobish)
    A story on the Telegraph today shows that - shockingly - parliament have voted against sex and relationship education being compulsory in schools.

    This is despite three-quarters of young people believing compulsory SRE would make them feel safer.

    A previous thread on TSR also revealed how over 80% of you would want your teachers to educate you about - at the very least - the 'basics'.

    In an era where young people can access anything they like through their smartphones, do you think people in positions of power have a duty to ensure they're correctly educated?

    The Telegraph also states: "Beyond labelling diagrams of the uterus, young people need to be taught about the dangers of meeting people online, the risks of dating apps like Tinder, the consequences of ‘sexting’ and the difficult, and potentially, life-ruining situations it can put you in." Not to mention the current syllabus only recognises heterosexual sex/relationships...

    What would/do you want to be taught about?

    Do you think sex education should be compulsory in schools?
    I believe that it is up to the parents to decide when to tell their children themselves.
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    Of course sex education should be compulsory, everyone should be informed to the same standard.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    I think sex education should be compulsory. I went to a Catholic grammar and for all of my 7 years there, we were taught that abstaining from sex was right, sex before marriage was wrong. In fact, in none of the 'sex ed' classes I received was there a mention of contraception like the pill, condoms etc. We weren't even taught how to use condoms, and were told that being gay was wrong.

    I understand that, yes, I went to Catholic school, but it's the 21st century, for crying out loud! It's fine if they want to teach no sex before marriage, that is the Catholic line of teaching, but they should also respect that no sex before marriage does not always happen and so they should include other teachings as well (contraception etc).

    /rant
    Coming from a single sex, catholic, shitshow of a boarding school in the middle of nowhere, with *****y phone service, internet censorship, and an wifi curfew...YELL TO THE YESS
    I had to sit down one day with a friend and wiki my sex ed during the summer of my GCSEs because that's how bad it got
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    (Original post by Cicilaw)
    Coming from a single sex, catholic, shitshow of a boarding school in the middle of nowhere, with *****y phone service, internet censorship, and an wifi curfew...YELL TO THE YESS
    I had to sit down one day with a friend and wiki my sex ed during the summer of my GCSEs because that's how bad it got
    :console:

    I went to mixed school. I remember they split us up for one part of our sex ed in first year. Ridiculous.
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    I answered yes, for all the reasons that people who said yes have said. Also, I think it is important to talk about relationships along with the mechanical aspects of sex - namely respect and so on. Child sex exploitation is a real concern as well, and it is important to educate young people about this and how to protect themselves or how to seek help
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    He said: “Some form of protection is needed for those who run faith schools, all faiths, to make the position absolutely clear. I have little or no doubt that I will receive emails from constituents who happen to read my remarks. They will say that this is all about promotion, and this or that religion thinks that homosexuality—or another element—is not right.
    Wonderful, so once again religion is doing its fab job of keeping society nice and progressive x
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    This is a shame. I went to a faith school (Church of England) and we learnt about sex ed including how to use condoms etc.
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    (Original post by Len Goodman)
    Good. There is no need for sex education at schools. If young children are forced to learn about sex, then it is more likely that they will start having sex earlier.
    I didn't take sex ed classes at primary school because they are apparently unIslamic but guess what? My friends still told me all about it, and I became (perhaps) more curious and obsessed than my siblings who did take the classes because it was something forbidden.

    Kids will still learn about it and have sex early. They just won't be having safe sex.
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    (Original post by Len Goodman)
    Good. There is no need for sex education at schools. If young children are forced to learn about sex, then it is more likely that they will start having sex earlier.
    No, children need to be taught about the dangers of sex so that if they do have sex they know the necessary precautions.
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      (Original post by Connor27)
      It's important to respect the freedom of religion, faith schools shouldn't be forced to teach subject matter that is potentially inflammatory in their belief system.

      Another example is Darwin's theory of evolution, that shouldn't be compulsory to teach in faith schools either.

      Now, obviously I realise the importance of sex Ed as much as the next man, but we can't make it compulsory and impinge on freedom of religion, which is a human right, if we start doing that it's a slippery slope, which human rights are absolute and which ones aren't?
      Freedom to teach children misinformation and fill up their heads with rubbish shouldn't be a human right.
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        Did all MPs vote on this issue and is there anywhere I can find out if my MP voted against it?
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        (Original post by Len Goodman)
        Good. There is no need for sex education at schools. If young children are forced to learn about sex, then it is more likely that they will start having sex earlier.
        Then why are young children taught not to do drugs?
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        (Original post by Little Toy Gun)
        Then why are young children taught not to do drugs?
        There's a case for them not being taught that either.

        But who will teach them heroin is bad for them?

        Why don't we make parents parent their children for a change?
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        (Original post by jape)
        There's a case for them not being taught that either.

        But who will teach them heroin is bad for them?

        Why don't we make parents parent their children for a change?
        How does that change anything? If teaching young children about drugs lead to their using drugs, is it not the same when parents are doing the teaching?

        Why do schools teach anything at all? Why don't we make parents teach their children everything?

        How about orphans? How about children with absentee parents? How do you enforce the teaching? How do you monitor the teaching?

        Are you pro-big brother government? Against personal liberties? Against privacy? Allowing the state to monitor everything that happen in a household all the time?
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        Yes, I believe it should be compulsory in schools.

        There are many aspects of sex that it is important for children to learn, including the biological mechanisms by which it leads to pregnancy, contraception (how it works and how to access it), sexually transmitted diseases, the law etc. I don't think you can just leave everything to parents because they might not necessarily know all the facts themselves.

        Parents should probably have a hand in the more subjective and less factual aspects of sex education though e.g. providing advice on how, when and with whom it may be appropriate to become sexually active, and what the social and emotional implications of it might be.
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        (Original post by Tabstercat)
        Freedom to teach children misinformation and fill up their heads with rubbish shouldn't be a human right.
        Define 'rubbish' - words like that mean different things to different people.

        "I may disagree with what you say but I defend to the death your right to say it."

        If people disagree with being taught that way, don't go to a bloody faith school!
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        The sex ed I had at school was awful. We were never taught about contraception or STIs at all.

        Of course it needs to be taught. Along with healthy relationships. If your parents aren't willing / able to teach you, who can? Ok, we do have the internet; but children are probably going to see something they shouldn't do.
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        I'll just like to mention then that the rate for teen pregnancies is probably going to go up by a landslide. Look at the US, wtf.
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        (Original post by DoritoEvie)
        I'll just like to mention then that the rate for teen pregnancies is probably going to go up by a landslide. Look at the US, wtf.
        Teen pregnancy rates are much higher now than in the 1950s when we didn't have sex ed.

        (Original post by Little Toy Gun)
        How does that change anything? If teaching young children about drugs lead to their using drugs, is it not the same when parents are doing the teaching?

        Why do schools teach anything at all? Why don't we make parents teach their children everything?

        How about orphans? How about children with absentee parents? How do you enforce the teaching? How do you monitor the teaching?

        Are you pro-big brother government? Against personal liberties? Against privacy? Allowing the state to monitor everything that happen in a household all the time?
        You started off sane and ended up jousting with windmills.

        1. Personal responsibility and moral lessons are things that should be taught by parents and not the state. It's not Theresa May's job to teach your kid how to be a decent, functional human being. I concede that's a point of principle though, and maybe you'd disagree.

        2. Schools are there to teach academic knowledge. French, the sciences, Shakespeare, trigonometry, rock erosion or whatever.

        3. Orphans have guardians. And kids with terrible parents should be taken into care. I don't see "aha but the State is awful at doing its job in this area, so what now?" as a particularly strong counterpoint.

        4. You don't monitor the teaching. You don't hover over the shoulder of parents unless you have cause to believe that they're abusing or neglecting their kids.

        5. The fact that you're so addicted to State authority that you can't fathom a world without overbearing surveillance on private life speaks volumes more than I could ever hope to. There's nothing to actually respond to in the last paragraph because every word of it is crap.
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        (Original post by Len Goodman)
        Good. There is no need for sex education at schools. If young children are forced to learn about sex, then it is more likely that they will start having sex earlier.
        Talking about high school students, they will have sex anyway, whether it be sooner or later, whether it is safe and consensual and protected is something that vitally needs to be taught. Sex should not be Taboo, young adults need to know the legal ages, consensual sex, how to use condoms and how to respect one another. We are absolutely not talking about 'young children', don't be ridiculous. Rape awareness is also something that needs to be taught along with sexual education.
       
       
       
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