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    (Original post by jape)
    Teen pregnancy rates are much higher now than in the 1950s when we didn't have sex ed.



    You started off sane and ended up jousting with windmills.

    1. Personal responsibility and moral lessons are things that should be taught by parents and not the state. It's not Theresa May's job to teach your kid how to be a decent, functional human being. I concede that's a point of principle though, and maybe you'd disagree.

    2. Schools are there to teach academic knowledge. French, the sciences, Shakespeare, trigonometry, rock erosion or whatever.

    3. Orphans have guardians. And kids with terrible parents should be taken into care. I don't see "aha but the State is awful at doing its job in this area, so what now?" as a particularly strong counterpoint.

    4. You don't monitor the teaching. You don't hover over the shoulder of parents unless you have cause to believe that they're abusing or neglecting their kids.

    5. The fact that you're so addicted to State authority that you can't fathom a world without overbearing surveillance on private life speaks volumes more than I could ever hope to. There's nothing to actually respond to in the last paragraph because every word of it is crap.
    It's crap because it's a response to you. You still haven't responded to why let parents teach about drugs if you believe that will lead then to trying it.

    Your other response to someone else demonstrated your lack of understanding of correlation =/= causation.
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    I went to a normal state school and never received any formal sex ed classes. We got the diagrams in biology, and that was that.

    Sex ed should be 100% compulsory from year 7 or even before. Sex, porn, explicit content - it's all freely available on the internet and it's unfeasible to completely monitor everything a teen looks at on the internet - better to just answer questions when kids start asking them, have a mature conversation and get the facts out there.

    And talk about contraception, abortion, etc.

    I also think it should be illegal for faith schools to teach their own versions of sex ed (eg contraception being wrong, abortions wrong, marital rape etc). These toxic ideas should be left to the place of worship (or the 10th century) not in the minds of children
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    (Original post by metaljoe)
    I believe that it is up to the parents to decide when to tell their children themselves.
    What about children that are raised in strict religious families? Or those with prudish parents who refuse to even answer the simplest of questions?

    Some parents can also have quite an outdated and biased view on sex, and force their child to believe the same, rather than giving them room to make their own decisions.

    Wouldn't it be better for parents to see their children as individuals with the right to choose their own path, rather than forcing them to just become an extension of themselves? Sex education in schools could definitely help with this.
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    (Original post by stripystockings)
    Children should be efficiently educated about sex and relationships from a young age. Teens are going to have sex, and they're going to experiment. The media (and often porn) isn't exactly the best source of information, and when considering LGBT+ kids, there's limited information that you have to look for specifically.
    All teenagers should be informed of different kinds of STI protection (condoms and dams), birth control (and its other uses and side-effects), what freely-given, informed consent looks like, where to go for help, what's involved in an STI test, etc. Children should be informed about consent, how to get help if someone's hurting them, how their bodies change as they get older, etc., etc. A generation of better informed individuals can only be a good thing.
    I agree
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    depends on the age of the each individual as people mature at different rates. should be optional vs compulsory.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    It's important to respect the freedom of religion, faith schools shouldn't be forced to teach subject matter that is potentially inflammatory in their belief system.

    Another example is Darwin's theory of evolution, that shouldn't be compulsory to teach in faith schools either.

    Now, obviously I realise the importance of sex Ed as much as the next man, but we can't make it compulsory and impinge on freedom of religion, which is a human right, if we start doing that it's a slippery slope, which human rights are absolute and which ones aren't?

    There shouldn't be faith schools at least until such a time as God is proved to be anything more than a figment of the imagination.Freedom of religion extends only so far.Evoloition should absolutely be taught in all schools because it is a scientific fact.If some people cannot handle that then tough.Creationism has no place in modern schools except as an interesting piece of mythology perhaps.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Define 'rubbish' - words like that mean different things to different people.

    "I may disagree with what you say but I defend to the death your right to say it."

    If people disagree with being taught that way, don't go to a bloody faith school!
    Things that are factually untrue.And it's rarely people's own choice whether to go to a faith school or not.Generally the parents decide where the child goes.As such it's not ok for schools to be indoctrinating children with one particular idealogy.Schools should stick to teaching the facts and let children make up their own minds rather than learning the opinion of a particular faith.
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    Sex is part of life tho, just like math - you may not need it in the future, but its a key skill to have. The use of condoms for protection against STD's, family planning etc. In todays society where sex is popularised amongst youngers bcoz of music, tv, games etc, it is important youngers know the fundamentals of how it really works. Im not talking about teaching them positions etc, but ways they can preotect themselves. I believe this does not persuade them to have sex at young age, but it will actually show them that being 16 and having kids is very hard, and that it might not be the best idea.
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    yeah!! it's alarming how many people still genuinely think women pee through their vaginas, so a general overview of anatomy wouldn't hurt either...
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    It's important to respect the freedom of religion, faith schools shouldn't be forced to teach subject matter that is potentially inflammatory in their belief system.

    Another example is Darwin's theory of evolution, that shouldn't be compulsory to teach in faith schools either.

    Now, obviously I realise the importance of sex Ed as much as the next man, but we can't make it compulsory and impinge on freedom of religion, which is a human right, if we start doing that it's a slippery slope, which human rights are absolute and which ones aren't?
    Pretty much this.

    It should be encouraged but not mandatory.
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    (Original post by Toasticide)
    I think yes as it's important for young people to know the consequences of their actions.

    BUT.... it's becoming more pointless as modern society is producing more and more chavs who probs know that if you screw a woman without contraception she becomes pregnant. But instead of applying what they know to not ruin other's lives they prefer to be ignorant. And the proportion of smart people to these idiots is favouring the idiots more and more.

    just my opinion though, in objection to my point there, the smart people need to know their consequences, hence why i voted yes
    "Hence why voted I yes"

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    (Original post by Len Goodman)
    Good. There is no need for sex education at schools. If young children are forced to learn about sex, then it is more likely that they will start having sex earlier.
    Is this an actual troll account or are you just a dumb f*ck?
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    (Original post by jambojim97)
    Is this an actual troll account or are you just a dumb f*ck?
    Well 10 people agree with me, so it can't be such a dumb idea.
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    (Original post by Len Goodman)
    Well 10 people agree with me, so it can't be such a dumb idea.
    1) There are a lot of dumb people on TSR, such as your fine self
    2) 15 people repped a rebuttal
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    (Original post by Len Goodman)
    Good. There is no need for sex education at schools. If young children are forced to learn about sex, then it is more likely that they will start having sex earlier.
    they still have access to internet with all sort of fetishes and porn.
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    (Original post by Nottie)
    they still have access to internet with all sort of fetishes and porn.
    Then we quite simply censor it. Pornography should be illegal, anyway.
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    (Original post by Len Goodman)
    Then we quite simply censor it. Pornography should be illegal, anyway.
    Young people always had sex, even before magazines or videos were introduced.
    You can't make sex a taboo and if you don't educate children, they will only find it more desirable (you want what you can't have etc).
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    (Original post by Len Goodman)
    Then we quite simply censor it. Pornography should be illegal, anyway.
    1. Censoring will never work. Services such as Tor will always exist. Believe me ,many teenagers are willing to take such a small step to bypass any filter.
    2. Why should pornography be illegal?
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    (Original post by Nottie)
    Young people always had sex, even before magazines or videos were introduced.
    You can't make sex a taboo and if you don't educate children, they will only find it more desirable (you want what you can't have etc).
    This, we will also increase cases of teen pregnancies, which will result in more pressure on the state as a result, if we do not ensure effective sexual education.
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    (Original post by Len Goodman)
    Well 10 people agree with me, so it can't be such a dumb idea.
    That's such an awful way of thinking. A viewpoint's popularity does not evidence feasibility, validity, practicality or moral/ethical/human rights coherency.
 
 
 
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