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    (Original post by LordJesus)
    Politics is about winning and losing for parties and politicians. You're not part of the republican party, nor were you a part of Trump's team. You just spend time on the internet feeling like you've won something. You didn't even vote for him.
    Politics is not just about power it is also about ideas. Turning ideas into action.

    And ideas are international, they know no borders, no national electorate.

    What Trump is doing in the US will resonate all over the world. The US is a global leader, in business, fashion, entertainment, and...

    ...in politics.
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    (Original post by Quantex)
    Trump and his trumpanzees are really embracing his "Let's make America a safe space" SJW-inspired ideology.
    Oh for God's sake, that's not what a 'safe space' is. There's a difference between public security/immigration policy and SJWs hiding from things they find offensive.
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    (Original post by LordJesus)
    This still doesn't justify the constant need by trump supporters to turn the attention away to people who disagree with Trump and just constantly mock liberals.
    Liberals mock and despise Trump supporters and vice versa. It is a culture war.

    Politics is just warfare without the guns.
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    (Original post by joecphillips)

    Do you support the state removing citizens rights whenever they like?
    Was the UK Parliament wrong in 1994 when it outlawed marital rape thereby removing a man's right to rape his wife?
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    (Original post by Dandaman1)
    Oh for God's sake, that's not what a 'safe space' is. There's a difference between public security/immigration policy and SJWs hiding from things they find offensive.
    Look how offended he was when he found out his inauguration wasn't as well attended as Obama's. Or when a theatre mocked his vice president. Seems like he wants a safe space of his own...
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Was the UK Parliament wrong in 1994 when it outlawed marital rape thereby removing a man's right to rape his wife?
    It's never been a right to be able to rape someone parliament redifined rape to include in marriage they did not remove a right like you anti-gun people try to do.
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    A little thing called the constitution.
    Stupid logic. 'X should be allowed because X is allowed'. Circular argument.


    Why do you get to force your will onto others?
    If the democratically elected legislature and democratically elected President were to vote to ban guns that would simply be the exercise of democracy.
    Just the same as anything else.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Look how offended he was when he found out his inauguration wasn't as well attended as Obama's. Or when a theatre mocked his vice president. Seems like he wants a safe space of his own...
    It's funny that the Hamilton group is held up as a great thing when 10 months ago they were openly discriminating based on age and race and civil rights lawyers and unions were in uproar
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    It's never been a right to be able to rape someone parliament redifined rape to include in marriage they did not remove a right like you anti-gun people try to do.
    Actually it was. You're wrong again. Before 1991 (when the court outlawed it), it was perfectly legal for a man to rape his wife. Thus he had the legal right to do so.


    The Courts and Parliament took this right away. Were they wrong to do so?
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    It's funny that the Hamilton group is held up as a great thing when 10 months ago they were openly discriminating based on age and race and civil rights lawyers and unions were in uproar
    ...which has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making.

    He was complaining that they said mean things about him and acting like he wanted his own safe space.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Actually it was. You're wrong again. Before 1991 (when the court outlawed it), it was perfectly legal for a man to rape his wife. Thus he had the legal right to do so.


    The Courts and Parliament took this right away. Were they wrong to do so?
    Was it not that consent was said to be part of marriage?
    And it also worked both ways so a woman could also rape a man.
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    Yes woman can only legally commit sexual assault but let's be honest the law discriminates here
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    ...which has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making.

    He was complaining that they said mean things about him and acting like he wanted his own safe space.
    I just find it funny that you are using a group that discriminates to prove your point when people say he is racist as a reason to oppose him

    It was just an observation not a rebuttal.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Look how offended he was when he found out his inauguration wasn't as well attended as Obama's. Or when a theatre mocked his vice president. Seems like he wants a safe space of his own...
    When his VP was mocked by the black dude who had tweeted about raping drunken white chicks on St Patrick's day?

    How cool is that!
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    Makes sense, because most of the recent terrorist attacks and mass shootings that occurred in the US were perpetrated by refugees and first gen immigrants from those 7 countries. Right?

    Oh wait
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    Lets analyse the 9/11 hijackers:

    15/19 were citizens ofSaudi Arabia
    2/19 were from the UAE
    Then 1/19 each from Egypt and Lebanon



    Quite impressive that not one of these 4 countries is included in Trump's ban...
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    I am totally anathema to most of what Trump stands for, but I agree with the basic concept of severely restricting immigration from countries whose values are so backwards and regressive in comparison to our own. We've already seen how this overzealous opening of arms has destroyed parts of Germany and Sweden.
    Do you really think that was the basis concept of this ridiculous plan?
    And how can you make assumptions about the 'values' of each individual refugee/immigrant wishing to enter the US from those countries?
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    Was it not that consent was said to be part of marriage?
    And it also worked both ways so a woman could also rape a man.
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    Yes woman can only legally commit sexual assault but let's be honest the law discriminates here


    Regardless, the point stands. A legal right was taken away.

    If an elected Congress and elected President decided to ban something, then that would be democracy in action, which there would be no problem with.

    Tony Blair for example banned smoking indoors. It's hardly tyranny is it?
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    Guys Trump's choice of staff looks like a joke to me. Half the people on their are named 'mike'.Hes got an oil tycoon as General secretary and the only black guy who boasts of assaulting his mum in the Housing department. Not to mention that Betsy woman lol.Then Trump convinces people Mexico will pay for the wall - which wont stop drugdealers who dig underground or use drones.Antagonises China,and undos everything obama did. Way to go.
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    (Original post by XueYing)
    Guys Trump's choice of staff looks like a joke to me. Half the people on their are named 'mike'.Hes got an oil tycoon as General secretary and the only black guy who boasts of assaulting his mum in the Housing department. Not to mention that Betsy woman lol.Then Trump convinces people Mexico will pay for the wall - which wont stop drugdealers who dig underground or use drones.Antagonises China,and undos everything obama did. Way to go.
    Seriously, Trump didn't consult you before he picked his staff?

    Holy crap!

    What a loser!
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    (Original post by joe cooley)
    Seriously, Trump didn't consult you before he picked his staff?

    Holy crap!

    What a loser!
    His choice right agreed, but if you're serious about your job you would at least ensure you have a few experts not a bunch of people you owe favours to.Oh yes forgot to mention he added one of the chief culprits of 2008 bank crisis as one of his staff forgot his name.
 
 
 
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