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    Historical inaccuracies in shows and movies just bugs me. Seriously. It makes me wonder whether or not the people who make the show care about history.

    I’m pretty obsessed with historical shows and movies. My all-time favourite show is The Tudors and my second favourite film is The Duchess (if you can guess my favourite film of all time, bonus rep to you; it’s not Harry Potter). Below are three inaccuracies that annoy me the most in The Tudors, for example:

    1) Cardinal Wolsey dies by his own hand while in prison. (s1, ep10)

    Just no. I love Sam Neill in this show, and oh my, I love the soundtrack to this scene, but this didn’t happen. Cardinal Wolsey died around the age of 60 of an illness en route to London at Leicester Abbey, to answer the charges of treason held against him, on the 29th November, 1530.


    2) King Henry VIII had only one sister, Princess Margaret (who only appears in season one).

    Afraid not. He had two. This feisty character (and wow, she has sass) is an amalgam of his two sisters, Margaret Queen of Scots and Mary Dowager Queen of France. The show didn’t want the Dowager Queen of France to be confused with the Princess Mary, Henry’s daughter. Mary was married to the King of France and later to Charles Brandon, becoming the ancestress to Lady Jane Grey, the 9-day queen. Margaret was married to the King of Scotland and was the ancestress to Mary Queen of Scots.

    This means the marrying the King of Portugal story-line was rubbish.

    3) The Vatican and the Spanish ambassador commissioned William Brereton to assassinate Anne Boleyn (season 2).

    Yeah…no. For some bizarre reason, the show completely changed Brereton’s character. In reality: he was not a Jesuit but a courtier of Henry’s court (his wife a second cousin to the King) and was a background figure in the Boleyn faction. Still, to this day, I don’t understand why the show changed this. Probably for entertainment.


    I thought about picking out some of the inaccuracies in the show Reign. Then I remembered the Reign is so historically inaccurate that we would be here for quite some time! Honestly, that show…it’s a historian’s worst nightmare.

    The Crown (my second favourite show) doesn’t escape inaccuracies (mainly to do with how they have the Duke of Windsor offer advice to his niece, Queen Elizabeth; that would have not happened in real life, let’s be honest).

    So, like me, do you care about inaccuracies in historical TV shows and films? Or are you there for the gorgeous costumes and the drama? :mmm:
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    and my second favourite film is The Duchess (if you can guess my favourite film of all time, bonus rep to you; it’s not Harry Potter).
    A shot in the dark... is it The Young Victoria?
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    A shot in the dark... is it The Young Victoria?
    3rd favourite, so I'll rep you for that!

    It's not based on historical characters, but it's a classic that shows historical conventions that I find rather fascinating.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    3rd favourite, so I'll rep you for that!

    It's not based on historical characters, but it's a classic that shows historical conventions that I find rather fascinating.
    Aahh close enough. Can't think what it might be. :<
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GVpoSrqMMg

    this is one giant inaccuracy... people have never walked on the moon :teehee:
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Aahh close enough. Can't think what it might be. :<
    If no gets it, I'll tell you later :laugh: Though I just realised I said 'classic' but forgot 'book'. Film based on a classic book with historical conventions that intrigue Airmed.


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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GVpoSrqMMg

    this is one giant inaccuracy... people have never walked on the moon :teehee:
    Oh Bear :rofl:
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    If no gets it, I'll tell you later :laugh: Though I just realised I said 'classic' but forgot 'book'. Film based on a classic book with historical conventions that intrigue Airmed.




    Oh Bear :rofl:
    well how do you explain the manhole covers ?

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    (Original post by the bear)
    well how do you explain the manhole covers ?

    :dontknow:
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    Braveheart - (of course I was going to choose this :teehee: )

    William Wallace's wife's name is Murron in the film. In reality, it was Marian. The name was changed for the film so audiences wouldn't mix her up with Maid Marian from Robin Hood. Murron is a really nice name though :teehee::love:
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    Basically everything that everyone wearing in Vikings. I love the rest of it (I'm told the history of the plot if very anachronistic at times) but I have to ignore what everyone is wearing.
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    (Original post by Spock's Socks)
    Braveheart - (of course I was going to choose this :teehee: )

    William Wallace's wife's name is Murron in the film. In reality, it was Marian. The name was changed for the film so audiences wouldn't mix her up with Maid Marian from Robin Hood. Murron is a really nice name :love:
    Braveheart was so obvious, ngl :laugh:

    (Original post by Manitude)
    Basically everything that everyone wearing in Vikings. I love the rest of it (I'm told the history of the plot if very anachronistic at times) but I have to ignore what everyone is wearing.
    Agreed on that, yeah. I'm only on season one, but it bugs me.
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    Hmm

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    One of the most famous inaccuracies is in the film:

    Krakatoa East of Java




    Unfortunately Krakatoa is west of Java.
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    There are loads of inaccuracies in HBO Rome, but I love it nonetheless.

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    (Original post by Airmed)
    If no gets it, I'll tell you later :laugh: Though I just realised I said 'classic' but forgot 'book'. Film based on a classic book with historical conventions that intrigue Airmed.
    I was initially going to say The Other Boleyn Girl. I think it's the 2005 film version of Pride and Prejudice, though.
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    As for historical inaccuracies, the Blackadder TV series is absolutely teeming with them.
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    (Original post by Less(e/o)n)
    I was initially going to say The Other Boleyn Girl. I think it's the 2005 film version of Pride and Prejudice, though.
    Profile stalker. It wasn't on my profile when this thread went up.

    Also for Blackadder, that's deliberate :lol:
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    Profile stalker. It wasn't on my profile when this thread went up.
    Stalking? I prefer to think of it as taking a friendly interest, personally!

    Also for Blackadder, that's deliberate :lol:
    I know, but I couldn't think of any others. I may post again on here if I do, though.
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    I would highly recommend The Devil's Whore, if nobody has seen it. I believe there are some historical inaccuracies, although I didn't notice them at the time.
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    Robin Hood (2010) was completely inaccurate in the sense that none of the royals were speaking French throughout the entire film. I suppose it was necessary for convenience sake, but it's still a rather sizeable error.
 
 
 
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