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    Hi guys! I've seen loads of people asking questions about nursing! I'm a 3rd year mental health student if you have any questions ask away!!
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    Hi!
    I'm thinking about doing Mental Health Nursing at university, but i'm not 100% sure if it's definitely what I want to do. Could you tell me what you like/don't about the course?
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    Hi!
    I'm thinking about doing Mental Health Nursing at university, but i'm not 100% sure if it's definitely what I want to do. Could you tell me what you like/don't about the course?
    I love the course because I get to work in a wide range of mental health settings!
    Currently I'm in forensic medium secure and loving it! But on the other end I got to work within a dementia unit.
    I get to see people when they are really unwell in seclusion and when they are better near discharge, reading into people's family history's and seeing how their childhood has impacted on them is fascinating.

    Mental health nursing is such a grey area! And amazing placements make the course enjoyable. If you have an interest in mental health I'm sure you will love it, personally I love forensic, PD services and eating disorders.
    But then I have friends who want to work with dementia there's so many opportunities.

    I'm going to be honest I'm not brilliant at the academic side however when I have to attend lectures it's mostly been death by power point... mainly because first year is mainly adult teaching and all of their lectures are draining 😂 second year 50/50 and third year is all mental health.

    Clinic skills is amazing, putting in NG tubes being trained in CBT!

    I haven't struggled with the work load and having placement full times 6 months of the year. (People who have struggled have never worked full time).

    Hope this kinda helps haha!
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    I am starting mental health nursing in september!

    Where are you studying?
    What placements have you done? How much responsibility did you have?
    What is your timetable like?
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    (Original post by 123moonlight)
    I am starting mental health nursing in september!

    Where are you studying?
    What placements have you done? How much responsibility did you have?
    What is your timetable like?

    I'm studying at staffs uni
    At staffs we do 3: 8 weeks placements a year 37.5 hours a week some unis do less.

    Placements so far
    1st year.
    Acute inpatient
    Inpatient dementia
    Community mental health team

    2nd year.

    Crisis team.
    Personally disorder female rehab.
    Medium secure forensics (prisoners in hospital)

    3rd year.

    Elective (4 weeks) psychiatric intensive care unit or tier 4 camhs PICU.
    Cat C prison
    Dementia community sign off (12 weeks).

    Responsibility differs however there's not much you can't do, I was doing tribunal reports on my first placement.
    Writing assessments and risk assessment during assessments on the community teams.
    Leading own visits with the crisi teams.

    When you go to a placement they pretty much ask what year you are as soon as you walk in, obviously you will have more responsibility as the years go on.

    The placement I'm on now I run shift, do things that need doing in the diary run MDM, basically do all the 'nurse' things without a pin.

    Uni has been around 4 days a week every year, and full time placement 6 months a year.
    Most placements let you pick shifts including long days if your trust permits them.

    What uni are you going to study at?
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    (Original post by charliejanexo)
    I love the course because I get to work in a wide range of mental health settings!
    Currently I'm in forensic medium secure and loving it! But on the other end I got to work within a dementia unit.
    I get to see people when they are really unwell in seclusion and when they are better near discharge, reading into people's family history's and seeing how their childhood has impacted on them is fascinating.

    Mental health nursing is such a grey area! And amazing placements make the course enjoyable. If you have an interest in mental health I'm sure you will love it, personally I love forensic, PD services and eating disorders.
    But then I have friends who want to work with dementia there's so many opportunities.

    I'm going to be honest I'm not brilliant at the academic side however when I have to attend lectures it's mostly been death by power point... mainly because first year is mainly adult teaching and all of their lectures are draining 😂 second year 50/50 and third year is all mental health.

    Clinic skills is amazing, putting in NG tubes being trained in CBT!

    I haven't struggled with the work load and having placement full times 6 months of the year. (People who have struggled have never worked full time).

    Hope this kinda helps haha!
    It sounds really interesting and just how I thought it would be, which is great.
    Is there anything particularly difficult in terms of placements and people you work with? and things because obviously being a mental health nurse can be quite a challenging job.
    Also do you find that despite the placements and work you still have enough time for socialising and going out?
    Which uni do you go to?
    Thanks for all your help
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    (Original post by EMT99)
    It sounds really interesting and just how I thought it would be, which is great.
    Is there anything particularly difficult in terms of placements and people you work with? and things because obviously being a mental health nurse can be quite a challenging job.
    Also do you find that despite the placements and work you still have enough time for socialising and going out?
    Which uni do you go to?
    Thanks for all your help

    Some times it's easy to forget where you are and the risks, staff are trained in DMI students are not. I've been thretanted but that's about it, dealing with people who are really unwell and verbally abusive does happen.
    I've had good placements and the teams have been fab, friend said have had awful mentors who have made the whole placement a nightmare however you will have a placement facilitator who works for the trust any issues they sort them for you
    I've felt rubbish when I've seen patients who I worked hard with to get discharged from mother and baby services come back in to active wards and it sucks but that's part of the job.

    I still have time to go out and do things, I take my tablet to uni and work on the essay during lectures sometimes! I also have time to work bank shifts! It is hard fitting things in but I worked full time while at college!
    Having a job on the side that does long days is a good idea so you only have to do one shift

    At staffs uni we get 1 week in July off, 1 in march, and around 3 for Christmas so I work during these so technically I've not had any time off over the three years because I spent uni weeks off working but I haven't burnt out
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    I'm not a mental health nursing student, nor am I applying for it (I'm a Politics undergrad :lol:), but I have severe mental health issues, and I see you did placement at something called a 'personality disorder rehab'? What was that like, what exactly went on? Curious because I have numerous PDs myself.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    I'm not a mental health nursing student, nor am I applying for it (I'm a Politics undergrad :lol:), but I have severe mental health issues, and I see you did placement at something called a 'personality disorder rehab'? What was that like, what exactly went on? Curious because I have numerous PDs myself.

    This placement was private on off the only services that does this.

    There was 12 females all with a diagnosis of personality disorder from EUPD to BPD.

    It was a psychology informed environment, helping patients with cooking, positive risk taking, shopping, life skills and psychology sessions.

    When someone would self harm they would be asked what they wanted to do and if they wanted help, if they declined staff would leave and inform then to come back when they wanted help.

    It's a very speciality service for females who have been in and out of actue wards all of their life, basically reteaching all learned behaviours.
    Prise for positive actuation a not negative.

    I loved this placement! Many people tarnish a diagnosis of having a PD and I don't know why.
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    (Original post by charliejanexo)
    This placement was private on off the only services that does this.

    There was 12 females all with a diagnosis of personality disorder from EUPD to BPD.

    It was a psychology informed environment, helping patients with cooking, positive risk taking, shopping, life skills and psychology sessions.

    When someone would self harm they would be asked what they wanted to do and if they wanted help, if they declined staff would leave and inform then to come back when they wanted help.

    It's a very speciality service for females who have been in and out of actue wards all of their life, basically reteaching all learned behaviours.
    Prise for positive actuation a not negative.

    I loved this placement! Many people tarnish a diagnosis of having a PD and I don't know why.
    Ah, ok, I see. I just had never heard of such a place.

    From my perspective, to be told that there is something wrong with my personality, what makes me me hurts. A lot. But then, I guess, when my diagnosis stretches over BPD, NPD, OCPD, Schizoid and Schizotypal PD and APD, it's hard to feel like no one is judging me.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    Ah, ok, I see. I just had never heard of such a place.

    From my perspective, to be told that there is something wrong with my personality, what makes me me hurts. A lot. But then, I guess, when my diagnosis stretches over BPD, NPD, OCPD, Schizoid and Schizotypal PD and APD, it's hard to feel like no one is judging me.

    I understand fully what you mean, your personality is you and to be told there's something wrong with it sucks!
    A diagnosis does not define who you are or the life you live, nor should people judge you for it!
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    (Original post by charliejanexo)
    I'm studying at staffs uni
    At staffs we do 3: 8 weeks placements a year 37.5 hours a week some unis do less.

    Placements so far
    1st year.
    Acute inpatient
    Inpatient dementia
    Community mental health team

    2nd year.

    Crisis team.
    Personally disorder female rehab.
    Medium secure forensics (prisoners in hospital)

    3rd year.

    Elective (4 weeks) psychiatric intensive care unit or tier 4 camhs PICU.
    Cat C prison
    Dementia community sign off (12 weeks).

    Responsibility differs however there's not much you can't do, I was doing tribunal reports on my first placement.
    Writing assessments and risk assessment during assessments on the community teams.
    Leading own visits with the crisi teams.

    When you go to a placement they pretty much ask what year you are as soon as you walk in, obviously you will have more responsibility as the years go on.

    The placement I'm on now I run shift, do things that need doing in the diary run MDM, basically do all the 'nurse' things without a pin.

    Uni has been around 4 days a week every year, and full time placement 6 months a year.
    Most placements let you pick shifts including long days if your trust permits them.

    What uni are you going to study at?
    Wow thank you! Sounds like you are doing well and it makes me excited to start! I am going to study at Anglia Ruskin
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    (Original post by 123moonlight)
    Wow thank you! Sounds like you are doing well and it makes me excited to start! I am going to study at Anglia Ruskin
    You will love it! you wont believe it but it really does go so quick!
    you will be running shifts before you know it!
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    Hi guys,

    I'm a newly qualified mh nurse.. (qualified in October) I work in a medium secure forensic unit.
    Looking back, i had the same anxieties, will i enjoy it? What will it be like? How challenging will it be?
    But i have genuinely learned so much over the past 3/4 years (even though i still feel like i know nothing)!

    I had similar placements throughout my training, Rehab in Reach Team, Complex Care & Treatment Team, Crisis Team, Rapid Intervention Treatment Team (like Crisis but for Older Adult), Medium secure unit & my sign off one was Older Adult Community Mental Health Team.
    My first placement was rehab, it was more supporting patients in their flatlets, encouraging & supporting daily lifestyle activities etc. I also got to grips with the online system the trust use, as the placements went on my judgement got better. I was able to independently write entries onto the system, update care plans and carry out risk assessments. But you get a **** ton of support, i constantly asked my mentors if my paperwork was ok!
    I also had a bad mentor, but with support from the rest of the team and my uni i got over it and enjoyed the placement.
    I had NO IDEA where i wanted to work even in 2nd year, until the medium secure placement came about in 3rd year, i ended up really enjoying it and got a job on the same ward i was a student on.

    I was so frickin nervous before starting as a "qualified".. i don't know why! I thought i'd be expected to know stuff, expected to do things, but i wasn't. I took things at my own pace, there was always a second qualified too. I'm 5months into my preceptorship now and i've got 99% of my file signed off, i run shifts as the only qualified on shift! It does have challenges, i've nearly been assaulted twice. But I actually love my job and wouldn't change it for the world. The patients make me laugh and we have a good time, even when they're struggling we get through things. Its honestly down to knowing your patients & staff and knowing how to manage situations. I am by no means an expert and still have to seek guidance, but there is a lot around!

    If you guys have any questions, feel free to message me. Good luck with whatever you do!
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    (Original post by charliejanexo)
    This placement was private on off the only services that does this.

    There was 12 females all with a diagnosis of personality disorder from EUPD to BPD.

    It was a psychology informed environment, helping patients with cooking, positive risk taking, shopping, life skills and psychology sessions.

    When someone would self harm they would be asked what they wanted to do and if they wanted help, if they declined staff would leave and inform then to come back when they wanted help.

    It's a very speciality service for females who have been in and out of actue wards all of their life, basically reteaching all learned behaviours.
    Prise for positive actuation a not negative.

    I loved this placement! Many people tarnish a diagnosis of having a PD and I don't know why.
    Sorry to be invading your MHN thread, I'm not studying it either (not yet anyway). I just wanted to say that as someone with a PD it's so nice to hear someone speak positively about the conditions- believe me it's a rarity! MH nursing definitely needs more people like you. Also, as an aside, BPD and EUPD are just two names for the same condition.
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    Surely as a third year mental health student nurse you should know EUPD and BPD are the same thing.... EUPD is just the new name given to BPD in the DSM / ICD
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    Hi, I'm a 2nd year student mh nurse. I've just had my next placement allocation and I've got an adult acute ward. Can anyone give me an idea of what they expect of students? So far I've only had Adult and Older Adult community and a Dementia ward so it feels very different so I'm nervous, excited though!
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    Hey! I'm currently going through the process of applying for MHN, pretty late I know. I'm really not sure what to include on my personal statement? So, I want to demonstrate that I have the characteristics suited for it like the NHS C's right? I have experience in working with people of a mixture of ages, in various settings like a care home, foodbank etc but I'm not sure how to make it tailored to nursing? I don't know if this is the right forum, but any advice would be appreciated. Also, I'm applying for the PGDip in a few places and some undergraduate courses too.

    Thanks!
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    (Original post by charliejanexo)
    I'm studying at staffs uni
    At staffs we do 3: 8 weeks placements a year 37.5 hours a week some unis do less.

    Placements so far
    1st year.
    Acute inpatient
    Inpatient dementia
    Community mental health team

    2nd year.

    Crisis team.
    Personally disorder female rehab.
    Medium secure forensics (prisoners in hospital)

    3rd year.

    Elective (4 weeks) psychiatric intensive care unit or tier 4 camhs PICU.
    Cat C prison
    Dementia community sign off (12 weeks).

    Responsibility differs however there's not much you can't do, I was doing tribunal reports on my first placement.
    Writing assessments and risk assessment during assessments on the community teams.
    Leading own visits with the crisi teams.

    When you go to a placement they pretty much ask what year you are as soon as you walk in, obviously you will have more responsibility as the years go on.

    The placement I'm on now I run shift, do things that need doing in the diary run MDM, basically do all the 'nurse' things without a pin.

    Uni has been around 4 days a week every year, and full time placement 6 months a year.
    Most placements let you pick shifts including long days if your trust permits them.

    What uni are you going to study at?
    I don't have a question, but just wanted to say that it's interesting how little responsibility we get as medical students compared to you guys on placement. I've been discussing this with my nursing student friends as well (both MH and adult nursing, although I have an interest in MH) and it's almost bizarre how different our experiences are on placement - it sounds like you guys become very integrated with your teams, something that I've only started to experience in my final year.

    (Original post by charliejanexo)
    This placement was private on off the only services that does this.

    There was 12 females all with a diagnosis of personality disorder from EUPD to BPD.

    It was a psychology informed environment, helping patients with cooking, positive risk taking, shopping, life skills and psychology sessions.

    When someone would self harm they would be asked what they wanted to do and if they wanted help, if they declined staff would leave and inform then to come back when they wanted help.

    It's a very speciality service for females who have been in and out of actue wards all of their life, basically reteaching all learned behaviours.
    Prise for positive actuation a not negative.

    I loved this placement! Many people tarnish a diagnosis of having a PD and I don't know why.
    What was your experience of the patients in terms of recurrence etc? Did you find that this sort of environment really helped the patients?

    It's awful to hear about (and see) the stigmatisation of personality disorders - particularly BPD, and I'm happy to hear that these types of services exist. I did try to get a placement in a personality disorders unit myself but my medical school refused, so consider yourself lucky.

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    Ah, ok, I see. I just had never heard of such a place.

    From my perspective, to be told that there is something wrong with my personality, what makes me me hurts. A lot. But then, I guess, when my diagnosis stretches over BPD, NPD, OCPD, Schizoid and Schizotypal PD and APD, it's hard to feel like no one is judging me.
    I have heard similar things from other people with a diagnosis of a PD, and it is such a sad thing to hear. From what I've gathered from the people I've spoken to, generally the mistake lies with the person/service giving the diagnosis - usually the patient hasn't been told anything about their diagnosis, what it means, how it can be managed etc, and ultimately assume that it means it has something to do with them as a person.

    I don't know if this is something familiar, but I am sorry that you've had to deal with this sort of thing. I'd like to think that there is now more education and understanding about personality disorders than there used to be.

    Anyway, I just wanted to post because I wanted to follow this thread, and instead I've written an essay.
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    (Original post by Angury)
    I have heard similar things from other people with a diagnosis of a PD, and it is such a sad thing to hear. From what I've gathered from the people I've spoken to, generally the mistake lies with the person/service giving the diagnosis - usually the patient hasn't been told anything about their diagnosis, what it means, how it can be managed etc, and ultimately assume that it means it has something to do with them as a person.

    I don't know if this is something familiar, but I am sorry that you've had to deal with this sort of thing. I'd like to think that there is now more education and understanding about personality disorders than there used to be.

    Anyway, I just wanted to post because I wanted to follow this thread, and instead I've written an essay.
    I have been told bits and pieces, but they left most of it to me - because that's how I prefer it (I like learning, so it was easy for me to read up on things). But I have tried many drugs (I'm now unofficially officially medication resistant) which have not worked, and because of that and other factors like not being at a 'therapeutic level', I've yet to be put on a waiting list for therapy. Overall, the severity of my diagnosis has screwed me over. :rofl:

    There might be more knowledge about PDs (mostly what I would argue about BPD) but I don't think we're close to having an understanding about them. The stereotypes don't help at all.
 
 
 
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