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    EU law takes precedence over UK domestic law in many circumstances. As an absolutely huge organisation the EU has an unprecedented sphere of influence with virtually zero accountability. Most people can't even name their own MP let alone their MEP.

    Most of the stupid decisions made over the past few years have been made at the International level where we've had very little say, or our government has been complicit in them.
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    (Original post by sinatraa)
    Wrong.

    "On Thursday 23 June 2016, the EU referendum took place and the people of the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union. Following this result, information released by the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC), which covers Northern Ireland as well as England and Wales, showed that there had been an increase in the level of reported and recorded hate crime. This Annex provides information on the level of police recorded hate crime around the time of the EU Referendum as notified to the Home Office."
    Stop right there.

    That is not on page 22 of the home office report you linked to.

    Please provide a link to where you got the above.
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    (Original post by Warbear)
    What I love about the people who say that they "want their country back", are the first set of people to complain when it comes to hard work. Look at Nigel F, the guy ralled round the country for a Brexit then left after for everyone else to sort all it out.

    It doesn't really matter though, because people will see him and others as great national heroes when in reality, he and his people have ****ed you over.
    What I love about the people who say that they "want their country back", are the first set of people to complain when it comes to hard work.

    How the **** could you possibly know that?

    Just how many people who have said they "want their country back" have you worked with to know they complain about hard work?

    Do you even work for a living yet?
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    (Original post by joe cooley)
    Stop right there.

    That is not on page 22 of the home office report you linked to.

    Please provide a link to where you got the above.
    dude it was the same link. http://report-it.org.uk/files/hate-c...6-hosb1116.pdf

    It's page 22 of the pdf link
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    3 pages of squabbling between two posters...always the same.
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    (Original post by sinatraa)
    dude it was the same link. http://report-it.org.uk/files/hate-c...6-hosb1116.pdf

    It's page 22 of the pdf link
    Which takes you to a non-government site.

    Not official figures then.........

    Got there in the end.
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    (Original post by Reality Check)
    3 pages of squabbling between two posters...always the same.
    Maybe you could let other members know when you feel they should end their discussions.

    We wouldn't want to subject you to pages of squabbling would we........
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    (Original post by joe cooley)
    Which takes you to a non-government site.

    Not official figures then.........

    Got there in the end.
    It is official figures from a regulated source. You just choose to dismiss it but unfortunately that is the facts. Accept if you want or choose to be ignorant. I dont have time for this.

    If you want to show why this is wrong then question their methodology and give me an in depth analysis as to what is wrong with their stats which were pulled from police records. The met police have also said the same thing.
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    (Original post by Qinge)
    Who took are these horrible crooks, who took your beloved rainy island?


    P.S. **** you :yy:
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    (Original post by joe cooley)
    Maybe you could let other members know when you feel they should end their discussions.

    We wouldn't want to subject you to pages of squabbling would we........
    Why don't we ask the OP instead (how kind you to be so thoughtful towards my feelings, by the way).

    Qinge - do you feel that the (by now four) pages of 'discussion' from these two has answered your question?
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    (Original post by sinatraa)
    It is official figures from a regulated source. You just choose to dismiss it but unfortunately that is the facts. Accept if you want or choose to be ignorant. I dont have time for this.

    If you want to show why this is wrong then question their methodology and give me an in depth analysis as to what is wrong with their stats which were pulled from police records. The met police have also said the same thing.
    The figures may well be from a regulated source, the link between the increase and Brexit is pure speculation.

    Of course you don't have time for this, you inhabit a bubble where everyone agrees, therefore you are totally unqualified to cope with dissenting views.
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    (Original post by LisaNikita)
    Well the CNN is available in England.



    How am I american. I am british
    Bruv, no one watches CNN here and even if they did it wouldn't be a primary source of information as it focuses on US news. The fact that you're bringing it up suggests all you've done is eaten up Donald Trump's talking points.
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    (Original post by Qinge)
    First of all I would like to thank you for giving me a coherent answer rather than just leaving a comment along the lines of 'stupid liberal'. Secondly, thank you for explaining.

    But do you see any way in which the EU's governing system could be improved, possibly by electing more officials and having regular elections to change them. If this was the case would your view change or are there more factors than just the governing of the EU?
    If they made it more democratic (whilst giving more power to the eu parliament) it would change my opinion, but it wouldn't stop me from voting leave.

    I'm ideologically opposed to the EU because I believe in states as being the highest authority, so that changes things.

    But I don't think reform is so easily achieved, see Cameron's attempt and this https://twitter.com/EuroGuido/status/745699264219742208
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    (Original post by LisaNikita)
    You don't have to be white to understand or hate the way that the youth are politically heading (believing everything on CNN) is making us absolute tools for manipulation. So don't assume its just white people who think this way
    no one watches CNN in UK lol.
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    (Original post by Zargabaath)
    And what makes you think that? Because a socialist didn't agree with the EU? :lol:
    The old school socialists are all anti-EU because they see it as a vehicle for capitalism.

    It's not a left/right issue despite the best efforts of people to turn it in to one.
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    (Original post by joe cooley)
    The figures may well be from a regulated source, the link between the increase and Brexit is pure speculation.

    Of course you don't have time for this, you inhabit a bubble where everyone agrees, therefore you are totally unqualified to cope with dissenting views.
    Speculation?
 
 
 
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