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Liberals seem to be incapable of comprehending what the "Muslim Ban" is about watch

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    6 out of 7 countries on the ban list are active war zones. Which means they have unstable governments, poor infrastructure, and consequently poor documentation of their citizens, undermining any vetting process that might be employed during their immigration to the US.

    For the most part, we have no idea who the people coming over from these countries are. Sure, most may be good people fleeing a conflict, but until there is a reliable way to evaluate the background of these individuals, it's anyone's guess.

    That's what this ban is about. Temporarily limiting immigration from countries where it is difficult to assess citizens prior to granting them legal entry to the US, until measures have been implemented to do this.

    It has nothing to do with "Muslims". Out of the 10 countries with the highest Muslim populations in the world, only one is on this list.
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    But what about the people with legal visas and green cards? Why must they be inconvenienced? Why couldn't they have made considerations for them?
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    (Original post by StrawbAri)
    But what about the people with legal visas and green cards? Why must they be inconvenienced? Why couldn't they have made considerations for them?
    Admittedly, since the order was rushed out so quickly, mistakes are being made in its implementation. These should hopefully be rectified in the coming weeks.

    The thread is more aimed at those who have a problem with the concept as a whole.
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    (Original post by VV Cephei A)
    Admittedly, since the order was rushed out so quickly, mistakes are being made in its implementation. These should hopefully be rectified in the coming weeks.

    The thread is more aimed at those who have a problem with the concept as a whole.
    I see.

    My only concern with this plan is that it doesn't tackle the bigger problem of home grown terrorism or Saudi funded radicalisation.
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    Liberals couldn't care less about the people impacted by the travel ban.

    Its a convenient stick to beat Trump with, thats it.

    If they genuinely cared about such laws they would have protested similar bans implemented by other countries, and in operation for decades.

    Or Obama's ban on Iraqi refugees entering the US in 2011.

    Pure ********.
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    Obama banned Cubans from entering the US. No one complained about that
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    Shouldn't every country be saying, "If we cannot identify you, you cannot come here? "
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    (Original post by LisaNikita)
    Obama banned Cubans from entering the US. No one complained about that
    Well, you can not expect the left to support right wing reactionaries fleeing the socialist paradise of Cuba can you.
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    Liberals never complain about Israelis, or anyone with an Israeli stamp, being banned from Muslim majority nations.
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    The President's job should be to serve the interest of the American people, and not foreign interests.
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    (Original post by Lord Gaben)
    Liberals never complain about Israelis, or anyone with an Israeli stamp, being banned from Muslim majority nations.
    Don't you think a country such as America, the land of the free, should be held to a higher moral standard than a country such as Saudi Arabia? I thought the culture was meant to be superior to theirs?
    Also people do complain about the moral bankruptcy of countries like Saudi but the leaders of western countries don't particularly care because of the oil money and protecting their interests so Saudi gets away with a lot.
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    What about dat Saudi Arabian oil$$$$$$$$$$$$
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    (Original post by Lord Gaben)
    Liberals never complain about Israelis, or anyone with an Israeli stamp, being banned from Muslim majority nations.
    I have pointed this anomaly out to them and apparently they hold the US to higher standards than Muslim countries, for some unspecified reason.

    It may be connected to the soft bigotry of low expectations, but don't mention that to a liberal, their heads explode when you highlight their bigotry and racism!
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    It's such an effective Muslim bad than the vast majority of the world Muslim population is unaffected by it.

    Spin spin and more spin
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    (Original post by joe cooley)
    I have pointed this anomaly out to them and apparently they hold the US to higher standards than Muslim countries, for some unspecified reason.

    It may be connected to the soft bigotry of low expectations, but don't mention that to a liberal, their heads explode when you highlight their bigotry and racism!
    They do that because, as said on here many times by right wingers most especially, the culture of western countries such as America is superior to those of countries like Saudi.
    Why shouldn't America be held to higher standards?
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    (Original post by StrawbAri)
    Don't you think a country such as America, the land of the free, should be held to a higher moral standard than a country such as Saudi Arabia? I thought the culture was meant to be superior to theirs?
    Also people do complain about the moral bankruptcy of countries like Saudi but the leaders of western countries don't particularly care because of the oil money and protecting their interests so Saudi gets away with a lot.
    Please clarify.

    Your moral standard is on a sliding scale?

    Not much of a "standard" then is it.
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    (Original post by VV Cephei A)
    Admittedly, since the order was rushed out so quickly, mistakes are being made in its implementation.
    The problem is in the text of the order, not the implementation. Trump could easily have written "don't grant green cards or visas to people from these countries for 90 days" rather than "don't let people from these countries in for 90 days". He didn't offer any clarification or admission of mistake after it became apparent that green card and visa holders were being denied entry, thus it would be a fair conclusion that this denial was deliberate, not a mistake.
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    (Original post by StrawbAri)
    They do that because, as said on here many times by right wingers most especially, the culture of western countries such as America is superior to those of countries like Saudi.
    Why shouldn't America be held to higher standards?
    Sorry?

    I hold everyone to the same moral standard, as i would expect any decent person to do.

    Your moral standards would appear to be adjustable.

    An adjustable moral standard is worthless.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    It's such an effective Muslim bad than the vast majority of the world Muslim population is unaffected by it.

    Spin spin and more spin
    Precisely, it's spin to make it look like he's fulfilling his promise while ignoring Saudi and Qatar.
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    (Original post by LisaNikita)
    Obama banned Cubans from entering the US. No one complained about that
    When did he do this?
 
 
 
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