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    National Air Ambulance Bill 2017, The Hon Hazzer1998 MP (Lib), The Rt Hon QuamQuam MP (Lab)



    National Air Ambulance Bill 2017

    An act to establish a government funded National Air Ambulance service that comes under responsibility of the department of transport.

    BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows: -

    Section 1: National Air Ambulance Service
    1) A Government funded Air Ambulance service shall be created
    2) It shall be named the “National Air Ambulance Service or “NAAS “For short
    3) All Current Air Ambulances shall be merged in the National Air Ambulance service
    4) It shall come under control of the Department for Transport.
    5) It shall be recognised as an emergency service

    Section 2: Establishment
    1)In the section
    (I) “Property” shall be defined as “Any Equipment including Helicopters and land vehicles, medical equipment, Navigational and radio equipment operated by an air ambulance service”
    (ii) “Premises” Shall be defined as “Any Hangers, Helipads and Building and bases in which the Air ambulances service operate from in the United Kingdom “
    (iii) “Employees” shall be defined as “Any pilot, engineer and support staff that are employed by air ambulance service”
    2) All Property shall come under ownership of the National Air Ambulance service3, All Premises shall come under ownership of the National Air ambulance service
    3) All Employees shall now be employed by the National Air Ambulance

    Section 3:Costing
    1) £10,000 Per flight (With around 4 calls out per day averaging a daily cost of approximately £40,000 just for flying
    2) Average costing of £2.3 Million a year to run an air ambulance with 23 Air Ambulances in the UK the average cost of all air ambulances services in the UK at £52.9 Million
    3) £40,000 x 365 x 23 = 335800000(4) See Notes for more detailed costing and working out

    Section 4: Commencement, short title and extent
    1) This Act may be cited as the National Air Ambulance Air 2016.
    2)This Act shall extend to the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland
    3) This Act shall come in to force on the 1st January 2020.

    Notes

    This bill sets the guidelines to establish a government funding National Air Ambulance. All existing air ambulances shall be merged to make the National Air Ambulance Service (NAAS). The department for transport will have overall responsibility over the service.

    Costing

    Average Cost of one flight = £10,000 with around 4 call outs per day per service this equals (On average £40,000 per day per service) Or £280,000 per week. Times this by 52 that equals £14,560,000 per years, Times £14,560,000 by how many air ambulances services there in the UK ( 23 ) Equals £334,880,000 for flights each year for all the air ambulances Average cost for flying per air ambulance service = £14,560,000(Per year) Other average costs to run an air ambulance = £2.3 Million per year times the 23 air ambulance services in the United Kingdom equals £52,900,000 per year £334,880,000 (Average flying cost for all air ambulance services ) + £52,900,000 ( Other costs to run all 23 services = £387,780,000
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    I very much support the principle. It's ridiculous that we are reliant upon charitable organisations to provide this service.
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    Aye, makes sense!

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    What's the costing for buying the helicopters and equipment from the charities that currently own them? If it's going to be a national service is it not worth standardising on a couple of models to simplify maintenance etc.? (A single model would be vulnerable to groundings). Who will determine taskings? I'm not averse to the idea. It may also be worth considering whether to integrate it with the civilian SAR contract.
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    Wasn't this already done? Iirc I submitted a bill/motion on the matter years back.
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    Aye.

    Having numerous charities owning our air ambulances is needless bureaucracy I think; having it standardised under the DoT is a good thing.
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    I'm not sure who 'QuamQuam MP' is but I am strongly in support of this bill.
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    aye
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    Aye. hazzer1998 the government agreed to sponsor this a long time ago, what gives? My advice on costing was not just from the goodness of my heart.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)


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    I saw this in my notifications and knew it was going to be this, my dear sir LP. :rofl: Best meme to come out of the MHoC.
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    Why DfT?
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    Aye, but also wondering why this isn't under DoH
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    Nay, this is something that should be fully private, whether for profit or charity. Cue the accusations of heartlessness
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    I support this in principle but would like to see a role for charitable contributions maintained to support the overall budget and contribution from central government.

    The charities currently responsible for air ambulances should be maintained if possible to continue raising awareness and funds.

    PS. Absolutely brilliant meme from Life_peer!
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    Aye - makes perfect sense to me. Also, that meme is bloody hilarious Life_peer :rofl:
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    Aye, but the costing is wrong, it will not take long for the costs to spiral as the government imposes targets, new policies, and reforms to make it a less efficient, more costly service to run.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Aye, but the costing is wrong, it will not take long for the costs to spiral as the government imposes targets, new policies, and reforms to make it a less efficient, more costly service to run.
    I thought you weren't in favour of charity nationalisation?
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    I thought you weren't in favour of charity nationalisation?
    I would favour having the services contracted out to a private company who can run things properly because a charity situation is not ideal for something comparable to a public good.
 
 
 
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