B1110 - Treason and Terrorism (amendment) bill 2017 (2nd reading) Watch

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Treason and Terrorism (Amendment) Act 2017 (Second Reading), SoggyCabbages MP
Seconded by: Quamquam123 MP



Treason and Terrorism (Amendment) Bill 2017 (Second Reading)
An Act to completely remove suffrage from those guilty of Treason and High Treason



BE IT ENACTED by the Queen’s most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—

1: Amendment of Section 6
The following shall be inserted:
(5) Any prisoner convicted will incur a total loss of suffrage.

2: Amendment of Section 9
The following shall be inserted:
(5) Any prisoner convicted will incurr a total loss of suffrage.

3: Extent, Commencement and Short Title
(1) This Act extends to the United Kingdom.
(2) The provisions of this Act come into force upon Royal Assent.
(3) This Act may be cited as the Treason and Terrorism (Amendment) Act 2017.


Notes
Anyone convicted of such a heinous crime as Treason or High Treason does not deserve the right to vote. Currently in real life, individuals convicted of Treason lose all suffrage apart from in local elections. This amendment introduces the loss of suffrage with no exceptions.

Original Bill: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=3607595


Changes for the second reading:
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- Tidied up the formatting
- Altered the notes
--Increased sobriety levels of author, consequently resulting in the bill looking neater


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And this needed a second reading, why? The changes are sufficiently trivial it could have been sent to division without a second reading.
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Section 2 of the Representation of the People Act (V857) means that for treason (including terrorist activity) and murder, one can be sentenced to civic death whereby they are "ineligible of being elected, or sitting, or voting as a member of either House of Parliament, or of exercising any right of suffrage or other parliamentary or municipal franchise whatever within the United Kingdom". So, where appropriate, the court can implement this. As such, this is a wholly unnecessary bill and I will be voting No.
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(Original post by RayApparently)
Section 2 of the Representation of the People Act (V857) means that for treason (including terrorist activity) and murder, one can be sentenced to civic death whereby they are "ineligible of being elected, or sitting, or voting as a member of either House of Parliament, or of exercising any right of suffrage or other parliamentary or municipal franchise whatever within the United Kingdom". So, where appropriate, the court can implement this. As such, this is a wholly unnecessary bill and I will be voting No.
Thank you for reminding me about that.

Obviously I'm not currently in a position to cast a vote but I won't be supporting this bill on these grounds.
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(Original post by RayApparently)
Section 2 of the Representation of the People Act (V857) means that for treason (including terrorist activity) and murder, one can be sentenced to civic death whereby they are "ineligible of being elected, or sitting, or voting as a member of either House of Parliament, or of exercising any right of suffrage or other parliamentary or municipal franchise whatever within the United Kingdom". So, where appropriate, the court can implement this. As such, this is a wholly unnecessary bill and I will be voting No.
Someone's on the ball… In that case, I will also be voting no.
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What I think this bill's impact on Low Treason?
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What I think this bill's impact on Low Treason?
Treason is defined in prior MHoC legislation (that *******ised treason) as specifically *******ised high treason.

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Aye on this.
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Abstain
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Still an aye
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(Original post by RayApparently)
Section 2 of the Representation of the People Act (V857) means that for treason (including terrorist activity) and murder, one can be sentenced to civic death whereby they are "ineligible of being elected, or sitting, or voting as a member of either House of Parliament, or of exercising any right of suffrage or other parliamentary or municipal franchise whatever within the United Kingdom". So, where appropriate, the court can implement this. As such, this is a wholly unnecessary bill and I will be voting No.
My reason for voting no, pointless bill because of this.
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Aye, if you committed a crime such as treason you deserve not to vote as you have betrayed our country.
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Aye, should be RL law as perfectly good idea
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This bill has entered cessation!
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Division! Clear the lobbies!
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