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    OK so I used a radical party's name as a way of getting you to read the thread.

    But really now - enough of these rallying cries for refugees to be welcome.

    What about the disenfranchised working class, mostly youth, of the UK who cares about them?

    Look at the youth unemployment rate. Look how the Eastern Bloc countries have a monopoly on manual blue collar jobs; surely if we trained more British school leavers and gave them a purpose it would stop them going down the wrong path, a wage coming in, a purpose at least? But no we give the factory jobs to the Poles.
    Even the fruit picking jobs which were once a British student staple summer job - a lot of Polish/Czechs. All the Mcdonalds where I live, all Bengalis and goodness knows what, but it'd be fine if they could even speak English well but a lot can't.

    So then, on to housing, the rough sleeping situation in Manchester and London and no doubt most major UK cities and towns is ridiculous, no, disgusting - most of them are British guys too, so someone is getting the social housing (I myself am on the social housing list atm, the place where I'm staying has a lot of Arab/Syrian families).

    When are we going to create a first come first served policy on social housing based on what you've contributed and how long you've contributed for, same goes for benefits there should be a minimum time lapse before you claim of the state.

    Most young British people of my demographic - white (yes, seems the tables have turned) young, , "working class", Northern, males, don't stand a cat in hells chance in society these days because the liberal left wants to shout down the so called right. It hasn't worked evidently, given Trump's victory and Brexit.

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    Visit Japan then South Africa and then tell me that diversity is a good idea.
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    (Original post by Danny the Geezer)
    OK so I used a radical party's name as a way of getting you to read the thread.

    But really now - enough of these rallying cries for refugees to be welcome.

    What about the disenfranchised working class, mostly youth, of the UK who cares about them?

    Look at the youth unemployment rate. Look how the Eastern Bloc countries have a monopoly on manual blue collar jobs; surely if we trained more British school leavers and gave them a purpose it would stop them going down the wrong path, a wage coming in, a purpose at least? But no we give the factory jobs to the Poles.
    Even the fruit picking jobs which were once a British student staple summer job - a lot of Polish/Czechs. All the Mcdonalds where I live, all Bengalis and goodness knows what, but it'd be fine if they could even speak English well but a lot can't.

    So then, on to housing, the rough sleeping situation in Manchester and London and no doubt most major UK cities and towns is ridiculous, no, disgusting - most of them are British guys too, so someone is getting the social housing (I myself am on the social housing list atm, the place where I'm staying has a lot of Arab/Syrian families).

    When are we going to create a first come first served policy on social housing based on what you've contributed and how long you've contributed for, same goes for benefits there should be a minimum time lapse before you claim of the state.

    Most young British people of my demographic - white (yes, seems the tables have turned) young, , "working class", Northern, males, don't stand a cat in hells chance in society these days because the liberal left wants to shout down the so called right. It hasn't worked evidently, given Trump's victory and Brexit.

    British jobs/benefits/hosing for British people. Great Britain!
    Liberals are not left wing. They are centre wing weirdos. Search Bob Crow and Ernie Bevin, they are proper socialists
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    (Original post by MachinesCradle)
    To whom it may concern:

    Visit Japan then South Africa and then tell me that diversity is a good idea.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but Japan is a Japanese-majority nation?
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    (Original post by Danny the Geezer)
    OK so I used a radical party's name as a way of getting you to read the thread.

    But really now - enough of these rallying cries for refugees to be welcome.

    What about the disenfranchised working class, mostly youth, of the UK who cares about them?

    Look at the youth unemployment rate. Look how the Eastern Bloc countries have a monopoly on manual blue collar jobs; surely if we trained more British school leavers and gave them a purpose it would stop them going down the wrong path, a wage coming in, a purpose at least? But no we give the factory jobs to the Poles.
    Even the fruit picking jobs which were once a British student staple summer job - a lot of Polish/Czechs. All the Mcdonalds where I live, all Bengalis and goodness knows what, but it'd be fine if they could even speak English well but a lot can't.

    So then, on to housing, the rough sleeping situation in Manchester and London and no doubt most major UK cities and towns is ridiculous, no, disgusting - most of them are British guys too, so someone is getting the social housing (I myself am on the social housing list atm, the place where I'm staying has a lot of Arab/Syrian families).

    When are we going to create a first come first served policy on social housing based on what you've contributed and how long you've contributed for, same goes for benefits there should be a minimum time lapse before you claim of the state.

    Most young British people of my demographic - white (yes, seems the tables have turned) young, , "working class", Northern, males, don't stand a cat in hells chance in society these days because the liberal left wants to shout down the so called right. It hasn't worked evidently, given Trump's victory and Brexit.

    British jobs/benefits/hosing for British people. Great Britain!
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    (Original post by Danny the Geezer)
    Correct me if I'm wrong but Japan is a Japanese-majority nation?
    Ethnic Japanese make up 98.5% of the population and for some strange reason it's a very developed country with a high quality of life.
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    I completely agree. For as long as we have problems in this country, we should put ourselves first. Helping our own people is more important than helping others - this is how societies do and should work.

    We have big housing and employment problems like you say, and our health service is very poor at the moment. We should improve these, put much more money in them, and prioritise them over things to help people from other countries (among other things that could be cut).

    Also as someone who works in a council, I want to point out that foreigners are not given any sort of special treatment for social housing. other than that you are spot on mate.
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    (Original post by Danny the Geezer)
    Most young British people of my demographic - white (yes, seems the tables have turned) young, , "working class", Northern, males, don't stand a cat in hells chance in society these days because the liberal left wants to shout down the so called right. It hasn't worked evidently, given Trump's victory and Brexit.
    Maybe if the white demographic as you seem so specific to point out got themselves properly educated, do jobs and turn up to interviews and not reject jobs they don't like then we wouldn't have this problem. This constant need to blame others for your own problem needs to stop. We're a fairly economically liberal country which means it isnt up to the government to get you a job, it's up to you.

    You want to be so politically incorrect? Unfortunately mate it's works both ways.

    And dont take shots at Refugees, theyre fleeing war whereas you're stuck on benefits rejecting jobs because theyre boring. Get over yourself, you're not entitled to anything.
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    (Original post by MachinesCradle)
    Ethnic Japanese make up 98.5% of the population and for some strange reason it's a very developed country with a high quality of life.
    Thought so, also, Denmark, Sweden, Norway (the Scandic countries basically)
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    (Original post by Danny the Geezer)
    surely if we trained more British school leavers and gave them a purpose it would stop them going down the wrong path, a wage coming in, a purpose at least? But no we give the factory jobs to the Poles.
    Even the fruit picking jobs which were once a British student staple summer job - a lot of Polish/Czechs.
    That would be fine, but the reason they're employing the migrants is because the natives don't want the jobs.

    They've lived their lives being told they're too good to work menial jobs, that everybody should go to university, that they'll get a great job and won't need to work down t'pit like their parents / grandparents did, or that is only a matter of time before they'll get 'found' on a talent show, or be on a reality TV show and live the celebrity lifestyle.

    The jobs need doing, but they don't want to do them.


    And you don't need training to do the menial jobs. That's kinda the point of them. So why would you train school leavers (who now will all be 18, no more 16 year olds going off into work) to do something that a monkey could?
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    (Original post by Treeroy)
    I completely agree. For as long as we have problems in this country, we should put ourselves first. Helping our own people is more important than helping others - this is how societies do and should work.

    We have big housing and employment problems like you say, and our health service is very poor at the moment. We should improve these, put much more money in them, and prioritise them over things to help people from other countries (among other things that could be cut).

    Also as someone who works in a council, I want to point out that foreigners are not given any sort of special treatment for social housing. other than that you are spot on mate.
    Hmm well 5-10 years ago we had tons of vacant properties where I live in what were mostly-white areas now they are no vacant properties and the areas are either non-white majorities or becoming increasingly so.
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    Think you will also find that areas of Britain with 97%+ white population are the richest and most successful areas of the country.
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    (Original post by Danny the Geezer)
    Hmm well 5-10 years ago we had tons of vacant properties where I live in what were mostly-white areas now they are no vacant properties and the areas are either non-white majorities or becoming increasingly so.
    I don't think you're quite able to grasp the concept of the housing crisis. Perhaps it's also why you're unemployed
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    (Original post by DirtyJesus)
    I don't think you're quite able to grasp the concept of the housing crisis. Perhaps it's also why you're unemployed
    I'm in between jobs

    Also, yes, the hosing crisis is clear and present, taka here's no room at the inn.
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    (Original post by MachinesCradle)
    Ethnic Japanese make up 98.5% of the population and for some strange reason it's a very developed country with a high quality of life.
    It's also - once you leave the tourist cities - quite racist.
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    (Original post by MachinesCradle)
    Ethnic Japanese make up 98.5% of the population and for some strange reason it's a very developed country with a high quality of life.
    That is currently experiencing a demographic collapse. We'll see how Japan handles itself in the future without immigrant workers and with a quickly aging population.

    There is likewise a reason the Japanese society is still obsessed with work (which is why they even have the word Karoshi). One in five Japanese workers are at risk of DEATH from overwork. A fast shrinking already small number of young people must support an ever increasing number of elderly, so that will only get worse.
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    (Original post by Danny the Geezer)
    I'm in between jobs

    Also, yes, the hosing crisis is clear and present, taka here's no room at the inn.
    Anyone with a sound understanding of basic economics will tell you that it isn't just down to immigrants. Demand and supply may be a basic concept plebs are able to get around but the issue is more complex.
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    Or we could help both the impoverished British population and the refugees fleeing from war and tyranny. Perhaps if we had a government for the people and not for the rich we could do that.
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    (Original post by Caius Filimon)
    That is currently experiencing a demographic collapse. We'll see how Japan handles itself in the future without immigrant workers and a quickly aging population.

    There is likewise a reason the Japanese society is still obsessed with work (which is why they even have the word Karoshi). A fast shrinking already small number of young people must support an ever increasing number of elderly.
    This is no reason to introduce immigration which would contaminate ethnic Japanese culture. Japan will be automating a lot of industry with robotics in the coming years which will reduce the work hours allowing better management of social security.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    It's also - once you leave the tourist cities - quite racist.
    As is South Korea, another highly developed nation. I fail to see the problem.
 
 
 
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