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Hi! I would like to apply for GDL. The universities I was recommended are:

-University of Sussex
-City University of London
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-Brunel University

Which ones do you suggest I should apply and why? And please tell me about your experiences too.

Thanks in advance.
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I'm having a tough time deciding between doing the GDL at Uni of Law (both London campuses) and City Law - I've cast BPP aside for now because my experience so far has shown that they're awful at administration. Can anyone offer advice on UniofLaw vs City?

I want to pursue commercial law in the City as a solicitor.
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It generally doesn't matter where you study the GDL. But I guess it depends on what your career aspirations are after the GDL to give you any clearer advice, and also whether you have to factor in location/commuting/lifestyle etc into your decision.

But if it was me I'd be holding off any decision on whether to go into the GDL right now until I knew what was happening with the qualification process for lawyers (if that was the route I wanted to take).
Thank you for your answer. What do you mean by "what was happening with the qualification process for lawyers"?
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I'm having a tough time deciding between doing the GDL at Uni of Law (both London campuses) and City Law - I've cast BPP aside for now because my experience so far has shown that they're awful at administration. Can anyone offer advice on UniofLaw vs City?

I want to pursue commercial law in the City as a solicitor.
I have an offer from BPP. Could you please explain why they are awful at administration?
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Thank you for your answer. What do you mean by "what was happening with the qualification process for lawyers"?
The bar standards boarc and soliciters regulation authority (think these are the right groups) recently conducted an investigation into the routes/quallifications to become a lawyer. Reform is likely to cone which could see changes/abolition to current entry routes and/or potentially open new ones.

I assume, and i admit its a big assumption from a random guy on the internet - so che k it with people - that current students/lawyers will be grandfathered in, so tge GDL will be ok for you to do if you want to.
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As long as you start the GDL by 2019 (by current proposals), it will still be valid.


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Same with a QLD, I assume?
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Read up about the SQE - potential massive reforms in how Solicitors qualify - but I wouldn't be rushing into signing up to the GDL until I had confirmation of what was happening (should happen later this year).

http://www.lawcareers.net/Informatio...we-know-so-far


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I will read the link you posted. But I would like to ask you : What if I start GDL this September and the LPC? Then I will finish the LPC in 2019 and my TC would start in later 2019. Do you think it would be non valid? I am an international student by the way.
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I will read the link you posted. But I would like to ask you : What if I start GDL this September and the LPC? Then I will finish the LPC in 2019 and my TC would start in later 2019. Do you think it would be non valid? I am an international student by the way.
They will have transitional arrangements as always happens in these situation. They arent stupid and wouldnt leave hundreds of students in the lurch. Do you already have your TC?
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They will have transitional arrangements as always happens in these situation. They arent stupid and wouldnt leave hundreds of students in the lurch. Do you already have your TC?
No, I don't. Do you think I should ask SRA just to be sure?
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No, I don't. Do you think I should ask SRA just to be sure?
1. Do you have outstanding qualifications? Do bear in mind it is more difficult for an international student to get a TC, which is already very competitive.

2. Ask them but they are unlikely to know if the plans have not been decided. They always have transitional arrangements. For a while you will get the chance to qualify following the old and new route.
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1. Do you have outstanding qualifications? Do bear in mind it is more difficult for an international student to get a TC, which is already very competitive.

2. Ask them but they are unlikely to know if the plans have not been decided. They always have transitional arrangements. For a while you will get the chance to qualify following the old and new route.
Ok. Thanks a lot for your help.
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From a regulation perspective it will still be valid, but firms may (and that is a very big may) have transitioned across to recruiting people who complete the SQE. Also due to time lag in recruiting, firms have or are already recruiting their 2019/2020 intakes. Say you don't apply for a TC until the end of this year, you could be looking at a 2020/21 start date, and by that time many firms could have transitioned across to the new system by then, especially where the old system expires in 2022 (under current proposals).


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Ok. Thanks a lot for your help.
I will warn again. Unless im missing something then do not underestimate how difficult it might be as an international student for you to get a TC. It is a big investment for something that doesnt always happen. I think the risk of this is greater than concerns about transitioning, although they are both related to your situation.
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I will warn again. Unless im missing something then do not underestimate how difficult it might be as an international student for you to get a TC. It is a big investment for something that doesnt always happen. I think the risk of this is greater than concerns about transitioning, although they are both related to your situation.
You are right. I will definitely look into it. Thank you for the warning
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I have an offer from BPP. Could you please explain why they are awful at administration?
They weren't especially helpful when I tried to find out more about the course, forgetting that I'd arranged a call with a member of the faculty more than once, and a friend who studies there says the academic staff aren't v prompt in giving feedback on work. This is, of course, only my personal experience of BPP - they might be much better, but UniLaw and City seemed to be a lot more responsible, they have law-specific admin offices, and were very keen to go out of their way to show me around the campuses and answer any questions I had.
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They weren't especially helpful when I tried to find out more about the course, forgetting that I'd arranged a call with a member of the faculty more than once, and a friend who studies there says the academic staff aren't v prompt in giving feedback on work. This is, of course, only my personal experience of BPP - they might be much better, but UniLaw and City seemed to be a lot more responsible, they have law-specific admin offices, and were very keen to go out of their way to show me around the campuses and answer any questions I had.
Thank you so much for your answer. I will keep that in mind.
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Thank you so much for your answer. I will keep that in mind.
No worries! But as I mentioned, don't rely too much on my comments, as my experience isn't necessarily the same as other people's, and BPP is one of the best GDL providers available. If you can, I would highly recommend visiting the campuses to get a first-hand look and/or to speak to someone studying/teaching at the uni.

My own quandary is whether UniLaw would prepare me better for commercial law as it supposedly provides more practical legal experience than CityLaw, which I've heard is more academic (and the place to go if you want to be a barrister??) than UniLaw and BPP. Also, can anyone confirm the extent to which law firms care where you did the GDL/LPC?
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No worries! But as I mentioned, don't rely too much on my comments, as my experience isn't necessarily the same as other people's, and BPP is one of the best GDL providers available. If you can, I would highly recommend visiting the campuses to get a first-hand look and/or to speak to someone studying/teaching at the uni.

My own quandary is whether UniLaw would prepare me better for commercial law as it supposedly provides more practical legal experience than CityLaw, which I've heard is more academic (and the place to go if you want to be a barrister??) than UniLaw and BPP. Also, can anyone confirm the extent to which law firms care where you did the GDL/LPC?
Thanks I am an international student so unfortunately my visiting chances are low. But I will try. City is one of the schools that were recommended to me by a lot of people. Also when I was doing research about the firms, I saw that most of them send their TC's to either BPP or UniLaw. I have been told that it really doesn't matter where you did the GDL. Your GPA in GDL is what matters for LPC. Now, I am worried about this change in the system we talked about in the previous posts.
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Thanks I am an international student so unfortunately my visiting chances are low. But I will try. City is one of the schools that were recommended to me by a lot of people. Also when I was doing research about the firms, I saw that most of them send their TC's to either BPP or UniLaw. I have been told that it really doesn't matter where you did the GDL. Your GPA in GDL is what matters for LPC. Now, I am worried about this change in the system we talked about in the previous posts.
Hello,
I am an international student and planning to apply for GDL. I would like to know how is going your GDL process? Which university did you prefer? What do you think about the GDL for international students? Is it difficult?
Thank you and good luck
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