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Reply 2220
Original post by engm
Dont you think its unfair to expect all of these(teaching experience, publications etc ) from a recent graduate who wants to go straight for a Phd?


They don't expect that, at least not for my Department.
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Have any anthropology applicants who submitted their application by the January deadline heard back? Does the department e-mail or mail decisions? I called them a few times today but there was no response.
Reply 2222
Original post by Abacaxi
I have applied for a MPhil in International Relations.

I really understand how stressed you can feel. People keep asking me if I feel alright because it seems I am going to cry at any moment. But well if I have to wait one more week I may start to cry for real ...


I have applied for the same course too.

I believe the stress is getting worse due to the news of other people getting offers from different departments. It does not help to know either that out of 600-something taught degree applicants, only 80-something are accepted. This weekend, I am going to sleep a lot and watch some silly Indian movies to keep my mind diverted.

Do you have a first degree in Politics or IR? Mine is in History and the negative part of me is scaring me that they may prefer an IR student over me. :s-smilie:
Reply 2223
Original post by cyberpoet
Absolutely :biggrin:. Their food's one of the best (sadly baklava isn't on the menu). :tongue:

But I dont think much of my chances of getting in though.


Haha! I do wish you get in. :biggrin: How does college selection work? Do they also assess you application all over again?
Original post by AmericanLit
Got my rejection letter in the post today.

I'm really devastated. As I'm sure you all did, I spent hours and hours on the application, and my £50 application fee came out of my food budget for October. Had I got in, it would've been the best £50 I ever spent! Not sure what more I could have done to maximise my chances - I have a first class degree in English, a year working as SU officer, lovely referees and a painstakingly written research proposal.

I think it's that my research proposal ('problematic' or censure-inducing sexuality in modern American literature) is too contemporary/doesn't match up to Oxford or Cambridge lecturers' fields but I kind of want to shout, well if you don't take one a student studying this unusual new area, how do you expect to be ahead of the curve?! I suppose they'd argue that they are at the forefront of research in Renaissance/Modernist/Romantic literature and have that covered in such a world leading manner to be able to leave late C20th developments to Sussex or Warwick. I predict I'll come up against this dichotomy at PhD level too.

I've got offers elsewhere but there's no denying the cachet of Oxbridge. Thanks for your support and good luck to everyone en route to dreaming spires.


I'm very sorry to hear that. I was rejected by Oxford when I applied straight from undergrad; it was crushing and particularly frustrating not to know why. Everyone talks about the sheer numbers you're up against, but I felt I had to know what was 'wrong' with my application.

I sent emails to the dept (sounds pathetic now, I know) asking what went wrong and for advice on how to beef up future applications; they were very sweet but couldn't give feedback on individual applications of course. As many have pointed out, the app process can be idiosyncratic. Once you have the grades, SOPs and written samples are very significant (references too of course, but Ive always wondered how objectively they are judged when written by external sources), so is a clearly defined and well thought out research area (though not necessarily a full RP). I got the feeling that it doesn't harm to demonstrate familiarity with different elements of the MSt course (a very intensive 9 months), and articulate your enthusiasm for and how you stand to benefit from them. Things like publication and teaching experience sound more relevant to the DPhil to me (and I'm not sure about the latter to be honest).

I'm glad you have other great options and wish you all the best for the future. :smile: I'm very keen on gender and sexuality in texts, and 'censure-inducing sexuality in American lit' sounds very interesting. Which authors are you referring to?
Original post by engm
Truly agree that ONLY ' Best takes the offer' may NOT necessarily be true because my brother's classmate who had 2.1 undergrad and 2.2 postgrad got a place for a PhD last year in oxford. Even he was shocked when he got the offer. I think we need a little bit of luck as well.


2.2 for postgrad?? May I ask which Phd/DPhil this was for?
Reply 2226
Original post by engm
You can accept the offer for now and wait for the outcome of the funding. Do you have to pay certain amount of money once you accept the offer?


No i don need to make any deposit. But the problem is once i accept the offer i must submit my financial guarantee paper. That is the issue i am concerned of.

It seems this week have got more rejections than acceptances. Sorry for those who got rejected and wish you all the best with your other best options.
Original post by neuro11
No i don need to make any deposit. But the problem is once i accept the offer i must submit my financial guarantee paper. That is the issue i am concerned of.

It seems this week have got more rejections than acceptances. Sorry for those who got rejected and wish you all the best with your other best options.


that's weird. I had to submit my financial guarantee by the end of July.
Original post by Scout-
Yes, and what a darn exasperating wait it is! I have been having nightmares for weeks now, eating way too many potato chips, and I am ready to bite the heads off even mildly irritating people. :eek: I'm not always Buddha-like but this shakiness of the nerves is making me kind of wish that I could sleep tonight and wake up only a week later by which time IR department's "late March" will have arrived. :unimpressed:




It's awful isnt it. I must have put on a stone, snacking into the night, waiting for The Email to arrive (the different time zones don't help). And Ive been so crotchety lately, everyone's avoiding me - I don't think I have any friends left!! :tongue:
Reply 2229
Original post by Scout-
I have applied for the same course too.

I believe the stress is getting worse due to the news of other people getting offers from different departments. It does not help to know either that out of 600-something taught degree applicants, only 80-something are accepted. This weekend, I am going to sleep a lot and watch some silly Indian movies to keep my mind diverted.

Do you have a first degree in Politics or IR? Mine is in History and the negative part of me is scaring me that they may prefer an IR student over me. :s-smilie:


I absolutely don't think coming from History is negative ... You actually got more the profile to study IR than I have. I have a bachelor in communication and that's really far from politic or IR. I have applied this year because I think I already got a strong work experience (in the State Department, Homeland Security Department, ...) that will maybe convince them I can study IR even if my bachelor is completely irrelevant. I also wrote a thesis on terrorism but I have no idea what they are going to think ...
Have any Biomedical engineering applicants who submitted their application by the January deadline heard back?
On the basis of previous years, does anyone in the classics department know (approximately) when funding decisions will be made? Is it safe to assume from the lack of notification that I haven't been selected?
Reply 2232
Original post by *Corinna*
that's weird. I had to submit my financial guarantee by the end of July.


it really is....They asked me to submit guarantee form in the same deadline. May be they don believe that I can manage 135k ....
Original post by Knisper
Congratulations! I have an offer for the MPhil. My letter said exactly the same, but later specified this as 65%. Maybe that's helpful for you.


Well now, that doesn't sound too bad then! Let's see what happens with the other places/funding and we might just meet come new academic year!

Original post by janjanmmm
Is that actual formal paper letter, or an email?
I got an email and it is also very vague, but the actual offer letter will follow in about 2 weeks and will spell everything out.


Yes, it's the formal, watermarked etc. paper which that came on. But it was signed by the head of department, so I suppose it may be slightly different depending on the course you apply to. I also never got an email about the offer, don't know maybe that's a little unusual.
Reply 2234
Just got an offer for MSt in History of Art and Visual Culture! Totally thrilled! (Hard decision to make though since I'm really into UCL's programme as well...)
Reply 2235
Finally got the letter from the History department in the post today confirming my place.

Good luck everyone!
Original post by cyberpoet
I'm very sorry to hear that. I was rejected by Oxford when I applied straight from undergrad; it was crushing and particularly frustrating not to know why. Everyone talks about the sheer numbers you're up against, but I felt I had to know what was 'wrong' with my application.

I sent emails to the dept (sounds pathetic now, I know) asking what went wrong and for advice on how to beef up future applications; they were very sweet but couldn't give feedback on individual applications of course. As many have pointed out, the app process can be idiosyncratic. Once you have the grades, SOPs and written samples are very significant (references too of course, but Ive always wondered how objectively they are judged when written by external sources), so is a clearly defined and well thought out research area (though not necessarily a full RP). I got the feeling that it doesn't harm to demonstrate familiarity with different elements of the MSt course (a very intensive 9 months), and articulate your enthusiasm for and how you stand to benefit from them. Things like publication and teaching experience sound more relevant to the DPhil to me (and I'm not sure about the latter to be honest).

I'm glad you have other great options and wish you all the best for the future. :smile: I'm very keen on gender and sexuality in texts, and 'censure-inducing sexuality in American lit' sounds very interesting. Which authors are you referring to?


Aww, thanks very much. Not stupid of you to email them at all - I did yesterday - and they had 68 applicants for 8 (EIGHT!) MSt places on the American Lit stream. In fact, I didn't apply straight from undergrad; I also do have teaching experience because I worked for the British Council teaching in Madrid after graduating. I also do lots of University outreach work in my current job (human rights organisation) though it's non academic. I thought they'd find it interesting, and maybe they did, but as you say it's a numbers game.

Ok so the authors - you asked! - contemporary Young-Adult fiction (now very popular with 'Twilight' & 'Hunger Games', but I was looking more at teen romance) and the effect that Bush administration sex ed policies had on the sexual content of novels - on the basis that the biggest buyer of these texts would be the American high school system who had, to varying degrees, to stick to Bush's new policies. I found that whilst some writers miraculously stopped talking about abortion, pre-marital sex, or young gay protagonists, others kind of 'coded' the way they talked about sex and sexuality, to avoid censure (censure that was albeit conservative and largely ignored by parents/readers) which perhaps led to the growth in non-real, i.e. fantasy, genres in YA fiction. Teenage novels are 'simple' in some ways but actually have a lot to teach adults - I'd recommend 'Basic Eight' by Daniel Handler or 'Looking For Alaska' by John Green. Anyway my MSt would wind back the debate to 1900 and Kate Chopin and then Virginia Woolf onwards.

Wow I really like this area, I wish Oxbridge interviewed! I guess it'll stand me in good stead for my viva. Cyberpoet, which stream are you?
Original post by Athena
In terms of funding allocation, this is what a DPhil English student told me about the process in 2008:

The department rank their choices.
They submit the top slice to the AHRC funding board/whatever it's called.
The AHRC decide who to fund. So out of, eg, 15 people, they may decide to fund 1,2,4,9,12,13.
The department these uses its funding to catch people the AHRC didn't like but they did, so 3,5,6,7.
That means numbers 9,12 and 13 got funding ahead of people the department thought were better (and this was the position the English DPhil was in - he got an AHRC place ahead of people the department preferred).

Whether is still works like that, and how many places the department and AHRC can fund, I know not. I also have no idea how this Ertegun funding is allocated.


How did this person know what ranking they had? Last year they wouldn't even tell me if I was first or second in the reserve list.
Well, this sounds very unfair IMO. The department surely knows better than a committee that includes people from many different fields.
In any case, I am glad the classics faculty only let us know after the final stage has been passed because I would be heart broken if I thought I'd get funding and in the end I did not.
Reply 2238
Original post by americanshx
Just came back from vacation thinking, it's been a week--surely there will be news! No news yet from English 1550-1700. Are there any other English M.St. applicants still waiting to hear back???


Me :frown: I always thought it was silly for people to get discouraged if they didn't hear early, but I'm having a hard time keeping my hopes up. Sent the department an email and haven't had any word back. Feeling pretty devastated already :frown:
Reply 2239
So I just received (in the US) my offer of a place for an MPhil in General Linguistics & Comparative Philology. Will the yea or nay on funding (Clarendon and Ertegun) come along later?

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