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Hey, I heard late last week that I was accepted into the politics mphil but i have heard nothing about any funding. Clarendon etc... I take it from previous posts this means that I will not receive any? Did most people hear by post?
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Reply 2741
Original post by hse
Hey, I heard late last week that I was accepted into the politics mphil but i have heard nothing about any funding. Clarendon etc... I take it from previous posts this means that I will not receive any? Did most people hear by post?
well, I got AHRC, Departmental, and Ertegun rejections by email. The Clarendon website says all successful candidates have been sent funding offer letters.
Original post by Juliet_Wannabe1
University, but then with the usual thing about moving me if a funding opportunity comes up. What about you?


Trinity (though I've not heard anything).

Congrats all with funding offers and nominations :smile:.
Original post by Obesa Cantavit
MPhil International Relations. You?


msc pol theory, I suppose no news is good news. Hopefully this week!
Reply 2744
Original post by ColinClout
Similar situation. On reserve list for AHRC (who knows how far down :s-smilie:), no word from colleges yet.


I'm on a reserve list at Cambridge - it's an odd feeling! Not really a cause for celebration, but a sort of dangling hope... :s-smilie:

I can't imagine the reserve lists would be that long. Maybe five reserves for 10 funded places? There would be really no point in making the reserve list much longer than the usual number of people who reject the funding.
Original post by Mackenzie123
Yes, it is with Continuing Education and it is interdisciplinary. They have said that they don't yet offer the DPhil, but that the MSt course can be used to lead to DPhil work possibly at Oxford and that they may be able to offer you a place if suitable supervision can be found. It seems like they are interested in creating the programme at some point.

Could you elaborate on how the grading works? What does a 60, 70, 80 mean (in terms of frequency awarded and criteria for each)? I realize this is rather theoretical, but I am just trying to get a grasp of the context and standards, so please know I'd just be grateful for any light you can shed, as this is all foreign. :smile:

Also, I was curious to know how graduate students approach the reading lists, as in, do you read all of the books listed, or do your best or pick and choose, or is this a conversation with your Tutor or Advisor? Is there any general idea of how much of a reading list to try to accomplish?

And my last question involves being assigned to a college. Do applicants reach out to the desired college in any way, to state their interest? Is there anything that you can do to help your case? Thanks for your input!


Hi :smile: - Marking Criteria copied below. I'm not sure if they vary between different departments though. If you nose around dept websites you may find course specs (with exam conventions) and examiners' reports with information on the number of students achieving distinctions. Reading list - I definitely havent managed to read every single book on every reading list, though you obviously need to read a lot more extensively beyond the list if it's a topic or area you've chosen to write/research on. Maybe other postgrad students may want to chime in on this?

Over 85 : ‘Highest Distinction’
Outstanding work of publishable quality demonstrating most of the following: exceptional originality, critical acumen, depth of understanding, subtle analysis, superb use of appropriate evidence and methodology; impeccable scholarly apparatus and presentation.

75-84 : ‘High Distinction’
Excellent work with publishable elements showing many of the following qualities: originality, wide and detailed knowledge, compelling analytical thought, excellent use of illustration to support argument, sophisticated and lucid argument; excellent scholarly apparatus and presentation.

70-74 : ‘Distinction’
Excellent work with a deep understanding of the issues involved, wide knowledge of relevant material, elegant and incisive argument, clarity of expression and exposition, the ability to pose and engage with sophisticated questions; very good scholarly apparatus and presentation.

65-69 : ‘High Pass’
Very competent work showing a good understanding of the issues and grasp of relevant literature; good structure, appropriate scope, lucid analysis supported by well-focussed illustration; appropriate attention paid to scholarly apparatus and presentation.

60-64 : ‘Low Pass’
Competent work showing a reasonable grasp of issues and relevant literature, perhaps narrowly conceived; limitations to argumentative structure or exposition may distinguish this work from ‘high pass’; perhaps too narrow or too ambitious to make effective points within the word limit; adequate attention to scholarly apparatus and presentation.

50-59 : ‘Fail’
Limited competence; may show one or more of the following: insufficient understanding or awareness of the issues or relevant literature; inadequate use of illustration; poor organisation of argument or lack of clarity of expression; absence of proper conclusions; failures of presentation and scholarly referencing.
Original post by WaSaDa
well, I got AHRC, Departmental, and Ertegun rejections by email. The Clarendon website says all successful candidates have been sent funding offer letters.




I have heard nothing on the AHRC front, no rejection, acceptance, or shortlist. No confirmation that I am being, or am not, considered at all. I may have to call them on Tuesday and find out whats happening there.
Oxford forgot to inform me about Ertegun, so that was a 'no-funding' prospect form the off. Am waiting nervously for the studentship response. No funding means I will not be able to attend the programme.

On the AHRC, I have ben nominated by m own university, well 'shortlisted' - I am told that that the results will be decided soon. I wondered if anyone here had any idea what so ever, if the chances for AHRC upon shortlist are considerably higher. They only have two offers, and I suspect hundreds of worthy candidiates. I don't even know how many would be shortlisted for two places, I hope upon shortlisting it's still not a slim chance as 1 in 10... somt
hing tells me with AHRC its always a slim chance.
Original post by Student 01
I have heard nothing on the AHRC front, no rejection, acceptance, or shortlist. No confirmation that I am being, or am not, considered at all. I may have to call them on Tuesday and find out whats happening there.
Oxford forgot to inform me about Ertegun, so that was a 'no-funding' prospect form the off. Am waiting nervously for the studentship response. No funding means I will not be able to attend the programme.

On the AHRC, I have ben nominated by m own university, well 'shortlisted' - I am told that that the results will be decided soon. I wondered if anyone here had any idea what so ever, if the chances for AHRC upon shortlist are considerably higher. They only have two offers, and I suspect hundreds of worthy candidiates. I don't even know how many would be shortlisted for two places, I hope upon shortlisting it's still not a slim chance as 1 in 10... somt
hing tells me with AHRC its always a slim chance.


they won't have hundreds of applicants for 2 AHRC places :s-smilie: Most departments have 1/2 AHRC places for about 30-35 applicants. I think shortlisted means you got it.
Original post by *Corinna*
they won't have hundreds of applicants for 2 AHRC places :s-smilie: Most departments have 1/2 AHRC places for about 30-35 applicants. I think shortlisted means you got it.


But surely shortlisting means there's a few names and they will decide upon them. I'm just curious as to what shortlisting comprises off, i.e. a couple of people or still a significant number.
Original post by cyberpoet
Hi :smile: - Marking Criteria copied below. I'm not sure if they vary between different departments though. If you nose around dept websites you may find course specs (with exam conventions) and examiners' reports with information on the number of students achieving distinctions. Reading list - I definitely haven't managed to read every single book on every reading list, though you obviously need to read a lot more extensively beyond the list if it's a topic or area you've chosen to write/research on. Maybe other postgrad students may want to chime in on this?


Thank you so much, cyberpoet! I really appreciate your time and thoughts. The reading list was over 40 pages long, so I will do my best... They said we should hear from our college in 8-10 weeks. Exciting!
Original post by Student 01
But surely shortlisting means there's a few names and they will decide upon them. I'm just curious as to what shortlisting comprises off, i.e. a couple of people or still a significant number.


yes, actually, I think you are right :frown: I mixed it up with being "nominated". Sorry. I still hope you get it though :smile:
Original post by *Corinna*
yes, actually, I think you are right :frown: I mixed it up with being "nominated". Sorry. I still hope you get it though :smile:



Thanks Corinna, I hope so too, but being rejected from Cambridge on the funding front makes me doubt getting funding other universities. It's perhaps not the most logical stance to take, but I'll be surprised if its not true.

Speaking of "nominated" - with Oxford, I suspected being "nominated" for a studentship meant although your chances were higher, you were still competing for funding. Do you reckon "nomination" implies a good, solid chance?

I've been racking me brains over what would make them give you funding via a studentship! i.e. everyone accepted into Oxford is an exceptional candidate: all have grades, extra ciricular, etc etc or else they would not have the offer, hence the funding criteria puts me in a confused state of mind.
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Original post by Student 01
Thanks Corinna, I hope so too, but being rejected from Cambridge on the funding front makes me doubt getting funding other universities. It's perhaps not the most logical stance to take, but I'll be surprised if its not true.

Speaking of "nominated" - with Oxford, I suspected being "nominated" for a studentship meant although your chances were higher, you were still competing for funding. Do you reckon "nomination" implies a good, solid chance?

I've been racking me brains over what would make them give you funding via a studentship! i.e. everyone accepted into Oxford is an exceptional candidate: all have grades, extra ciricular, etc etc or else they would not have the offer, hence the funding criteria puts me in a confused state of mind.


there is really no way to know how they decide the funding. Maybe its the written work etc. I really don't know. I think that nominated is fairly certainly an offer. But I don't know really...
Original post by *Corinna*
there is really no way to know how they decide the funding. Maybe its the written work etc. I really don't know. I think that nominated is fairly certainly an offer. But I don't know really...


Alas, the wait goes on.

I was told on the phone that they were sending out letters that week, (10 days or so from now) and I hope I hear this week ... or it will drive me insane for sure.

If there is anyone on here who has been "nominated" for something and yet rejected, (or vice versa) do let me know!
Original post by Student 01
Thanks Corinna, I hope so too, but being rejected from Cambridge on the funding front makes me doubt getting funding other universities. It's perhaps not the most logical stance to take, but I'll be surprised if its not true.

Speaking of "nominated" - with Oxford, I suspected being "nominated" for a studentship meant although your chances were higher, you were still competing for funding. Do you reckon "nomination" implies a good, solid chance?

I've been racking me brains over what would make them give you funding via a studentship! i.e. everyone accepted into Oxford is an exceptional candidate: all have grades, extra ciricular, etc etc or else they would not have the offer, hence the funding criteria puts me in a confused state of mind.


'Nominated' at Oxford (at least for the AHRC) definitely doesn't mean one automatically gets it - I emailed the department to check this out after I heard I was being nominated and that's what they said. It rests with the humanities division.

Good luck with your faculty studentship; I hope you get good news very soon. :smile:
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Original post by thatfineframe
'Nominated' at Oxford (at least for the AHRC) definitely doesn't mean one automatically gets it - I emailed the department to check this out after I heard I was being nominated and that's what they said. It rests with the humanities division.

Good luck with your faculty studentship; I hope you get good news very soon. :smile:


I suspected as much, and thank you good luck to you too :smile:

I really hoped at least a rejection AHRC letter from Oxford, the sheer ABSENCE of knowledge is irritating really. I wonder if they do email rejections.
Original post by Mackenzie123
Thank you so much, cyberpoet! I really appreciate your time and thoughts. The reading list was over 40 pages long, so I will do my best... They said we should hear from our college in 8-10 weeks. Exciting!


You're welcome :smile:. Feel free to PM me with other questions.

All the best with the course (and the 40-pager!). I had a brief look at it on the CE website last year and thought it was interesting; and if as you say they'll allow you to progress to a DPhil at Oxford, it sounds like a cost-effective route to a doctorate. With 2 years part-time, I'm assuming you'll be able to work and accumulate some savings too.
Pffff. Finally got a response. I've been waitlisted. Anyone know what that means in real terms for IR?
Original post by Obesa Cantavit
Pffff. Finally got a response. I've been waitlisted. Anyone know what that means in real terms for IR?


Not good.
They usually hand out more offers than places available, but in an unlikely case if even more people will not take up offer than was expected they want to have a backup and some of those who were waitlisted will get an offer. I.e. chances are slim.

Not saying this to discourage you, but if you have any other options - take them.
Original post by janjanmmm
Not good.
They usually hand out more offers than places available, but in an unlikely case if even more people will not take up offer than was expected they want to have a backup and some of those who were waitlisted will get an offer. I.e. chances are slim.

Not saying this to discourage you, but if you have any other options - take them.


No probs. Appreciate the honesty. I am at BoGS for Cambridge so fingers crossed.

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