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Reply 1940
The other day I told one of my mates that I received an offer from Oxford. He said that postgraduate applications to Oxford, especially the masters, were not very competitive. I was given a link to admissions statistics, and honestly I was a bit shocked.

http://www.ox.ac.uk/about_the_university/facts_and_figures/graduate_admissions_statistics/index.html

My response was "If most applicants are very good, then admission statistics don't tell much." He doubted me, "Is that a fact or a hypothesis?"

By the way, he's Harvard-educated. And I am not sure if I want to get back at him. *sighs*
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Reply 1941
Congratulations......Glad to see so many happy faces with offers and funding......and wish all the remaining get the both....:smile:
Original post by Athena
Going up to the top of the Taylorian used to give me vertigo - there was the walkway above the main floor of the library, and then a little room with some of the really old sociolinguistics books above, and the steps were so steep. I always felt I needed to come down them backwards in case I pitched forwards and went right over the barrier on to the floor below!


Do you mean the gallery running above the main room? Haha yes definitely vertigo inducing. Although I sometimes get a mad urge to jump from the gallery to the chandelier and swing on it :tongue:.

Many many congratulations to all with offers! I dont think I'll hear anything over the weekend, so I'm just going to find a dark hole somewhere and crawl into it. Like Gollum. :frown:.
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Reply 1943
Original post by cyclops
The other day I told one of my mates that I received an offer from Oxford. He said that postgraduate applications to Oxford, especially the masters, were not very competitive. I was given a link to admissions statistics, and honestly I was a bit shocked.

http://www.ox.ac.uk/about_the_university/facts_and_figures/graduate_admissions_statistics/index.html

My response was "If most applicants are very good, then admission statistics don't tell much." He doubted me, "Is that a fact or a hypothesis?"

By the way, he's Harvard-educated. And I am not sure if I want to get back at him. *sighs*


Not only Harvard, if you check the statistics you will be amazed to see the large volume of applications the US universities receive per academic year. Now do you think all of the applications worth mentioning in terms of talents and qualifications? i don think so. I am going to throw some cents regarding this.

Just explaining what happens in my country, if you ask someone studying undergrad and has a plan for higher studies he/she would say 'US'. Its more of a dream kind of thing than a logical thoughtful answer. They do not have much ideas about universities in other countries but they tend to read anything about US in medias. When they pass uni save money for GRE+Application fee for 10 Uni and work hard for the GRE. To do all these some of them take 2/3 years even. Then they make that shot for USA. Now this is the common scenario for most of the students here which certainly decreased in last 3 years because of lack of funding. Those who moved to UK went there for two reasons: they like to start a degree immediately and they have the backup from family for it.

There are a lot of forums for US university applications, Euclid(i think cant remember clearly) is one of them. there people upload there profile and the universities they applied to and the decisions. Regardless of how their profile look like many students applying high profile US universities and getting rejected. I think there are only 3 students from my country in Oxford at the moment (according to guardian) and so far i know they are duel passport holder (british) and i never heard anyone from here applying Oxford even though i knew people applying in Princeton, MIT,Stanford and getting rejected.
Original post by thatfineframe
:biggrin: I just read back and saw your posts - huge congratulations on your scholarship! Do you think you will end up going to Oxford, or do the other options tempt you too?


Hi! Thanks, and same to you :smile: I'm gutted to have to turn down York (I really do feel bad about it, it's like kicking an old friend) but Oxford is going to be my first choice - if I'd have had any doubt about it, chatting to one of the tutors on the phone yesterday confirmed in. See you in October!

Best of luck to anyone who might get their post on a Saturday. Sincerely and seriously sending good karmic thoughts your way!
Original post by HLS
Nothing in the post here yet. I think I'll piss myself if I get funding.


You're history too, right? I'm on tenderhooks for the Sat post this AM. Still, if nothing today then nerves get a rest tomorrow...

'Sunday. Best day of the week. Why's that Harry?'
'No post on Sundays?'
'Quite right. No post on Sundays...'
Reply 1946
Original post by cyclops
The other day I told one of my mates that I received an offer from Oxford. He said that postgraduate applications to Oxford, especially the masters, were not very competitive. I was given a link to admissions statistics, and honestly I was a bit shocked.

http://www.ox.ac.uk/about_the_university/facts_and_figures/graduate_admissions_statistics/index.html

My response was "If most applicants are very good, then admission statistics don't tell much." He doubted me, "Is that a fact or a hypothesis?"

By the way, he's Harvard-educated. And I am not sure if I want to get back at him. *sighs*


Factual hypothesis!
Original post by cyclops
The other day I told one of my mates that I received an offer from Oxford. He said that postgraduate applications to Oxford, especially the masters, were not very competitive. I was given a link to admissions statistics, and honestly I was a bit shocked.

http://www.ox.ac.uk/about_the_university/facts_and_figures/graduate_admissions_statistics/index.html

My response was "If most applicants are very good, then admission statistics don't tell much." He doubted me, "Is that a fact or a hypothesis?"

By the way, he's Harvard-educated. And I am not sure if I want to get back at him. *sighs*


Hey, that's really interesting - thanks for posting. For my History taught Masters the offer is about 50/50 per applicant. So my chances are better than I thought - although I'll arguably be even more gutted if I don't get in now! Also see the Grad colleges get most of the graduates on taught masters. No surprise there though... someone posted earlier that about 50% of all places available are at those, versus the 'mixed' colleges... I've asked for St Antony's anyhow. Grad college would suit me better and fits with my economics and politics background too.

No pressure. Nope. None at all. Nada. All tickety-boo here.:s-smilie:
no letter from HFL this morning, booo
Nothing in the post here either - dang! I'm not sure how much longer my poor nerves can hold out lol :-s Roll on Monday!!

Big 'well done' to those with offers already! =)
Hi, has anyone received offer from department of engineering sciences?
Reply 1951
Original post by shadow_walker
Hi, has anyone received offer from department of engineering sciences?


not yet, i am badly waiting for the outcome but to be honest I have very little hopes of getting an offer.
Reply 1952
Original post by neuro11
Not only Harvard, if you check the statistics you will be amazed to see the large volume of applications the US universities receive per academic year. Now do you think all of the applications worth mentioning in terms of talents and qualifications? i don think so. I am going to throw some cents regarding this.

Just explaining what happens in my country, if you ask someone studying undergrad and has a plan for higher studies he/she would say 'US'. Its more of a dream kind of thing than a logical thoughtful answer. They do not have much ideas about universities in other countries but they tend to read anything about US in medias. When they pass uni save money for GRE+Application fee for 10 Uni and work hard for the GRE. To do all these some of them take 2/3 years even. Then they make that shot for USA. Now this is the common scenario for most of the students here which certainly decreased in last 3 years because of lack of funding. Those who moved to UK went there for two reasons: they like to start a degree immediately and they have the backup from family for it.

There are a lot of forums for US university applications, Euclid(i think cant remember clearly) is one of them. there people upload there profile and the universities they applied to and the decisions. Regardless of how their profile look like many students applying high profile US universities and getting rejected. I think there are only 3 students from my country in Oxford at the moment (according to guardian) and so far i know they are duel passport holder (british) and i never heard anyone from here applying Oxford even though i knew people applying in Princeton, MIT,Stanford and getting rejected.


I expect a lot from Oxford, especially if I have to loan LOTS of money to pay tuition fees. I want to be educated in an intellectually stimulated environment (e.g. enjoyable class discussions), and that somewhat depends on the quality of my year's intakes. I want to be pushed. To be challenged.

I hope studying at Oxford is not the biggest mistake of my life. LOL. Anyway I think I'm going to take the risk despite what the admission statistics say!

To quote a phrase of a person I talked to privately:
Oxford, you'd better be worth it! :tongue:
Reply 1953
Original post by cyclops
The other day I told one of my mates that I received an offer from Oxford. He said that postgraduate applications to Oxford, especially the masters, were not very competitive. I was given a link to admissions statistics, and honestly I was a bit shocked.

http://www.ox.ac.uk/about_the_university/facts_and_figures/graduate_admissions_statistics/index.html

My response was "If most applicants are very good, then admission statistics don't tell much." He doubted me, "Is that a fact or a hypothesis?"

By the way, he's Harvard-educated. And I am not sure if I want to get back at him. *sighs*


It's really hard to compare. My undergrad was top 10 in the US, and for English is also in the top ten for graduate study. They only accept students to do their PhD. Last year there were 8 students admitted... but they get full funding from the university. It's just really different. That's why people who are really qualified still apply for ten or more schools, because it's such a crap-shoot. At least that's what the head of our department told us in the meeting about PhD applications. Don't let your Harvard friend get you down, it's just completely different.
Reply 1954
Original post by Ali-
Factual hypothesis!


Or hypothetical fact? This does not make sense :smile:

Perhaps the question should be rephrased from "hypothesis or fact?" to "hypothesis or theory?"
Reply 1955
Original post by shadow_walker
Hi, has anyone received offer from department of engineering sciences?


if you don mind, which course you applied for?
Reply 1956
Original post by cyclops
I expect a lot from Oxford, especially if I have to loan LOTS of money to pay tuition fees. I want to be educated in an intellectually stimulated environment (e.g. enjoyable class discussions), and that somewhat depends on the quality of my year's intakes. I want to be pushed. To be challenged.

I hope studying at Oxford is not the biggest mistake of my life. LOL. Anyway I think I'm going to take the risk despite what the admission statistics say!

To quote a phrase of a person I talked to privately:
Oxford, you'd better be worth it! :tongue:


Seems logical.....all i can say from my course's perspective I would have loaned full costs (which is huge) if possible to study there. pity, i have no loan options :mad:.....
Reply 1957
Original post by chipper
It's really hard to compare. My undergrad was top 10 in the US, and for English is also in the top ten for graduate study. They only accept students to do their PhD. Last year there were 8 students admitted... but they get full funding from the university. It's just really different. That's why people who are really qualified still apply for ten or more schools, because it's such a crap-shoot. At least that's what the head of our department told us in the meeting about PhD applications. Don't let your Harvard friend get you down, it's just completely different.


Can you please elaborate a bit what the difference(s) is?

Thank you so much. But I'm not feeling down. I am just disappointed in myself, for I am a bit in the dark. It's not like I don't know what I am supposed to know. It's that I hadn't thought much about classmates, which should have been a factor when I selected universities to apply to. Oh well.

In nerdy words, it was my stupid unknown unknown, for it should have been, at a minimum, a known unknown. :redface:
Reply 1958
Original post by neuro11
Seems logical.....all i can say from my course's perspective I would have loaned full costs (which is huge) if possible to study there. pity, i have no loan options :mad:.....


I was so pathetic that I asked my parents to use our house and land as a collateral just in case I need to loan.

I'm so ashamed of myself, imagining the worst-case scenario, in which everyone in my family is forced to leave our house but I'm still in debt. Haha. And considering my field (social policy), they have good reasons to doubt my ability to repay the loan! Loaning to study an MBA makes sense. Loaning to study stuff you're passionate about does not, financially. Maybe I'm crazy lol.
Reply 1959
Original post by cyclops
I was so pathetic that I asked my parents to use our house and land as a collateral just in case I need to loan.

I'm so ashamed of myself, imagining the worst-case scenario, in which everyone in my family is forced to leave our house but I'm still in debt. Haha. And considering my field (social policy), they have good reasons to doubt my ability to repay the loan! Loaning to study an MBA makes sense. Loaning to study stuff you're passionate about does not, financially. Maybe I'm crazy lol.


i thought thats only a problem in my region....lolz.

Your words remind me of what i thought when i first received my offer back in December 31 last year. I was trying to calculate how can i manage this large amount if i am not offered any funding. Getting loan from multiple banks ,big industry bla bla....hahah. My sister even asked me to sell properties if needed but to not let this opportunity gone by. In last 3 months i have understood that nothing is possible in truth cz no bank here can even think of loaning that much amount just for a graduate studies, Oxford or whatever. :smile:

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