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    Traditionally, the Labour Party won its support from white working class males, as they worked in heavy industry. Unfortunately, since Blair, the Labour Party has been focusing on ethnic minorities and women, therefore alienating its traditional base. If Labour are to win, they need to represent their traditional base. UKIP is gaining territory, it is very likely that they'll win the Stoke by-election. The Labour Party must represent its traditional base before it is too late.
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    If that alienates their 'traditional base' then there is a problem with their 'traditional base'.

    That being said, I hope Labour continues to decline - to make way for the Lib Dems to resurface. Good news about the defection.
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    (Original post by SinsNotTragedies)
    If that alienates their 'traditional base' then there is a problem with their 'traditional base'.

    That being said, I hope Labour continues to decline - to make way for the Lib Dems to resurface. Good news about the defection.
    Don't make fun of working class people. They are the best. They are better than middle class hippy people.
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    (Original post by RedManc)
    Don't make fun of working class people. They are the best. They are better than middle class hippy people.
    The best according to what measure?
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    (Original post by SinsNotTragedies)
    The best according to what measure?
    We're the best at everything.
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    (Original post by RedManc)
    We're the best at everything.
    Not the best at getting in power.
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    (Original post by RedManc)
    Traditionally, the Labour Party won its support from white working class males, as they worked in heavy industry. Unfortunately, since Blair, the Labour Party has been focusing on ethnic minorities and women, therefore alienating its traditional base. If Labour are to win, they need to represent their traditional base. UKIP is gaining territory, it is very likely that they'll win the Stoke by-election. The Labour Party must represent its traditional base before it is too late.
    Corbyn's decision to force a three line whip could arguably be seen as offering an olive branch to the Labour-voting parts of the country that voted Leave... but I doubt that the party's going to lose its metropolitanism (is that a word?) anytime soon. Whether it should is a matter that calls as much for quantitative analysis (i.e. looking at what Labour stands to gain and lose in terms of constituencies and voters) as it does about normative issues.
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    (Original post by SinsNotTragedies)
    Not the best at getting in power.
    I still live in 1945. Attlee, Bevin, Bevan are in charge
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    (Original post by JohnGreek)
    Corbyn's decision to force a three line whip could arguably be seen as offering an olive branch to the Labour-voting parts of the country that voted Leave... but I doubt that the party's going to lose its metropolitanism (is that a word?) anytime soon. Whether it should is a matter that calls as much for quantitative analysis (i.e. looking at what Labour stands to gain and lose in terms of constituencies and voters) as it does about normative issues.
    I agree, but the metropolitan Labour supporters are an embarrasement to the Labour Party.
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    How about just working class people in general?
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    (Original post by FeloniusFunk)
    How about just working class people in general?
    That would have been fine in 1997, however, the situation is different know. Labour is losing support from the white working class not the ethnic minority working class.
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    BNP were doing well until 09/10. Once MI5 started infiltrating their ranks they were ****ed. Basically Griffin would have been PM if our media/political system wasnt completely owned the zionist military-industrial complex.
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    (Original post by DeHumanisation)
    BNP were doing well until 09/10. Once MI5 started infiltrating their ranks they were ****ed. Basically Griffin would have been PM if our media/political system wasnt completely owned the zionist military-industrial complex.
    BNP were better than UKIP. However, they are racist. Labour needs someone like Ernie Bevin
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    (Original post by RedManc)
    BNP were better than UKIP. However, they are racist. Labour needs someone like Ernie Bevin
    Too many poofters in both UKIP and labour. Working class people would much prefer ex-bodybuilders and football hooligans running the country than left socialists - even Griffin used to box.
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    The demographics of it don't work. The traditional white working class used to be a large enough group that you could win an election by appealing to them alone. That is not the case anymore. Blair and the labour party since has had to try to broaden its appeal but I don't think the liberal left and white working class voters really share many of the same opinions as the referendum has shown.

    I don't think labour stands much chance either way. Neither group is big enough to win an election alone and it is very difficult to keep both happy. Blair managed it with his charisma and political skill but he was an exceptional talent. I don't think any of the political lightweights in the parliamentary labour party are capable of leading them to electoral victory.
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    (Original post by Sternumator)
    The demographics of it don't work. The traditional white working class used to be a large enough group that you could win an election by appealing to them alone. That is not the case anymore. Blair and the labour party since has had to try to broaden its appeal but I don't think the liberal left and white working class voters really share many of the same opinions as the referendum has shown.

    I don't think labour stands much chance either way. Neither group is big enough to win an election alone and it is very difficult to keep both happy. Blair managed it with his charisma and political skill but he was an exceptional talent. I don't think any of the political lightweights in the parliamentary labour party are capable of leading them to electoral victory.
    Dan Jarvis is our only hope
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    (Original post by RedManc)
    Dan Jarvis is our only hope
    Nah Corbyn is good!
    #long live capitalism
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    (Original post by SinsNotTragedies)
    If that alienates their 'traditional base' then there is a problem with their 'traditional base'.

    That being said, I hope Labour continues to decline - to make way for the Lib Dems to resurface. Good news about the defection.
    Lib Dem... I'm sorry... I can't see anyone from the current generations of young people voting for them.

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    (Original post by Willy Pete)
    Lib Dem... I'm sorry... I can't see anyone from the current generations of young people voting for them.

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    Oh gosh :rofl: - Nick Clegg is a good man. :emo:

    But I think you're probably right - I've only ever known two people in my peer group who align with the Lib Dems, compared to the tens who back Labour. I do think the Lib Dems are starting to gain ground again though.
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    (Original post by RedManc)
    That would have been fine in 1997, however, the situation is different know. Labour is losing support from the white working class not the ethnic minority working class.
    Yes, I can't imagine implying that they only want white people to follow them will have any repercussions at all...
 
 
 
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