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    (Original post by Drewski)
    But in a non lethal way because of your own rules.


    Again. I like our odds.
    i have already endorsed the burning down of slaughterhouses with workers inside in this thread
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    (Original post by _gcx)
    No. I was defending an individual's right to do whatever they want with their own body in general.
    But we are not talking about freedom in general. You forget that someone's individual right to eat what ever they want, affects another life, even though you agree animals deserve freedom too.
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    Is it expensive being vegan?
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    (Original post by Mistletoe)
    i have already endorsed the burning down of slaughterhouses with workers inside in this thread
    Whooptido.

    I'm endorsing the use of guns on you. Guess which will get rid of the problem sooner?
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    (Original post by Cherub012)
    Is it expensive being vegan?
    very cheap
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    Haven't they already?
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    (Original post by Mistletoe)
    very cheap
    Including substitutes for protein?
    Dunno much about what you guys eat.
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    (Original post by Cherub012)
    Including substitutes for protein?
    Dunno much about what you guys eat.
    Quorn, beans, lentils, nuts, seeds, rice etc are all cheaper than meat.
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    (Original post by Mistletoe)
    i'm talking about a fascism that is all-inclusive (racially
    Then it isn't really fascism is it?

    Sorry bud but what you want is a like I said either a some kind of left wing guerrilla force, like a Che for Animals or something, or a Leninist style brute force approach by wielding the state to get to your animal liberation goals.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Then it isn't really fascism is it?

    Sorry bud but what you want is a like I said either a some kind of left wing guerrilla force, like a Che for Animals or something, or a Stalinist style brute force approach by wielding the state to get to your animal liberation goals.
    I'm not left-wing or a commie. I don't need to embrace socialism or liberalism to support animal rights.
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    (Original post by Mistletoe)
    I'm not left-wing or a commie. I don't need to embrace socialism or liberalism to support animal rights.
    You have identified a hierarchy (that between man and animals) and think it is unjust and want to abolish it. Sounds pretty left wing to me bud.

    I didn't say you had to be a commie. Although the concept of rights is also totally at odds with fascism lol. You are endorsing some kind of progressive ideology in that you are against animals being slaves to humans.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    You have identified a hierarchy (that between man and animals) and think it is unjust and want to abolish it. Sounds pretty left wing to me bud.

    I didn't say you had to be a commie. Although the concept of rights is also totally at odds with fascism lol. You are endorsing some kind of progressive ideology in that you are against animals being slaves to humans.
    i support abolishing state education and healthcare, how left wing is that?
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    (Original post by Mistletoe)
    i support abolishing state education and healthcare, how left wing is that?
    You are against speciesism. You got a lot more people who support the NHS than there are those for animal liberaration. You are mega progressive in this respect.

    You are a liberal of some kind. You just think rights should be extended into other species other than humans, even if you think the NHS should be abolished. You are the equivalent of an anti slavery person back before it was cool.
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    (Original post by Mistletoe)
    i support abolishing state education and healthcare, how left wing is that?
    Agree with first point but I think "free" healthcare should be available to all, apart from in some cases like a drunk person hurting himself or an obese person having gastric bypass surgery etc.
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    (Original post by The_Herbivore)
    Agree with first point but I think "free" healthcare should be available to all, apart from in some cases like a drunk person hurting himself or an obese person having gastric bypass surgery etc.
    What if I come off my bike and break my collarbone?
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    What if I come off my bike and break my collarbone?
    I mainly only think self-induced or intentional injuries should be paid by the invidual, apart from cases were the individual has serious mental health issues.

    So yes nhs should cover it
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    Lol at all the people talking big on here :toofunny:
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    (Original post by MachinesCradle)
    There are always effects on other individuals. Alcohol causes drink driving accidents and property damage; inappropriate appearances can damage the reputations of organisations; high obesity rates fill hospital beds. These are unintended negative consequences of social liberalism.
    Alcohol doesn't cause it, stupid and irresponsible people do - loads of people drink alcohol without drink driving or otherwise behaving like ****heads. Alcohol only lowers inhibitions - it doesn't turn sensible non-violent people into drink drivers and thugs.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    You can try, but ammunition has animal products in it.

    You'll be reduced to bringing a knife to a gun fight. I like our odds.
    Steel uses tallow :lol:
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    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    Alcohol doesn't cause it, stupid and irresponsible people do - loads of people drink alcohol without drink driving or otherwise behaving like ****heads. Alcohol only lowers inhibitions - it doesn't turn sensible non-violent people into drink drivers and thugs.
    You sound like an American: "guns aren't the problem; mentally ill people are the problem."

    So according to you we shouldn't have alcohol restrictions because only a few hundred or thousand people die per year in one country from drink driving and they don't matter. That's very progressive of you.
 
 
 
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