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    That didn't seem to work too well in WW2, did it??? As the total land area of the Uk is about 10% less than that of Nevada, and the total population of the Uk is about 1.8 times that of California, it would seem that you're proposing the 'tail wagging the dog'. You apparently feel, in opposition to one of your own judges, that soverign nations should NOT be able to control their own borders. I suspect that, as the jihadists take over more and more of europe, an increasingly panic driven population will clamor for outside help. Cheers.



    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Today comes further news of the immigration ban - incredibly, US customs actually held the former Norwegian Prime Minister for questioning, because he once visited Iran.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...014-visit-iran

    Trump's leading aides make up stories in the most blatant way imaginable to justify the ban.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38857216

    Trump himself has now threatened war against Mexico, been deliberately rude to the Prime Minister of Australia (politically, a potential ally) and is now poised to push American scientific progress back by cutting all government spending on science and banning research in many important areas.

    The KKK are jubilant with their new president and Steve Bannon, a neo-fascist who has praised Nazism, is the closest advisor to Trump.

    Against this background, how long can it be before we need a worldwide boycott of America?

    Things we could boycott:

    * US media - abandon all those Netflix and Amazon accounts

    * Stop using US corporations that support Trump, like Uber and Esso.

    * Seek to ban leading financial corporations like Goldman Sachs that are deeply in bed with Trump.

    * Stop buying US products.

    * Access to the UK and Europe for political and business allies of Trump.

    Should we start discussing how this boycott would work and the goals? The key goal is to show Trump that as bad as he is, and as much as he wants to hurt other people, we can hurt the interests of his people more.
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    (Original post by Rabbit20164)
    That didn't seem to work too well in WW2, did it??? As the total land area of the Uk is about 10% less than that of Nevada, and the total population of the Uk is about 1.8 times that of California, it would seem that you're proposing the 'tail wagging the dog'. You apparently feel, in opposition to one of your own judges, that soverign nations should NOT be able to control their own borders. I suspect that, as the jihadists take over more and more of europe, an increasingly panic driven population will clamor for outside help. Cheers.
    We would only be part of a global boycott.

    The US cares a lot about what the UK says and thinks about it, we are seen globally as a bit of an opinion leader.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    * US media - abandon all those Netflix and Amazon accounts
    Not sure if you're aware of this, but Amazon have already joined Google, Microsoft, and Expedia in support of a lawsuit against Trump in retaliation of his travel ban.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    but we have to fight back against the new imperialism he represents and the attempt to wind the clock back to the 1950s and a pre-modern, barbaric way of dealing with the world.
    If Trump becomes the new President Eisenhower I'd see that as a major improvement quite frankly.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Of course it's difficult because of the penetration of the US software and entertainment industries, but we have to fight back against the new imperialism he represents and the attempt to wind the clock back to the 1950s and a pre-modern, barbaric way of dealing with the world.

    I am really in favour of targeted boycotts, so as I said, we should be boycotting corporations that side with his immoral campaigns and policies.
    Not difficult.

    Impossible. Actually impossible to cut out US products from normal life.
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    Lets boycott the sun or gravity or thermodynamics
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Well, so long as you have your Netflix, I mean, that's all that matters, right?
    Yeah. You can boycott USA all you want, just don't touch netflix pls thnx
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    I cant boycott the USA, i own too many US products.
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    You mean no apple or microsoft either?
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Today comes further news of the immigration ban - incredibly, US customs actually held the former Norwegian Prime Minister for questioning, because he once visited Iran.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...014-visit-iran

    Trump's leading aides make up stories in the most blatant way imaginable to justify the ban.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38857216

    Trump himself has now threatened war against Mexico, been deliberately rude to the Prime Minister of Australia (politically, a potential ally) and is now poised to push American scientific progress back by cutting all government spending on science and banning research in many important areas.

    The KKK are jubilant with their new president and Steve Bannon, a neo-fascist who has praised Nazism, is the closest advisor to Trump.

    Against this background, how long can it be before we need a worldwide boycott of America?

    Things we could boycott:

    * US media - abandon all those Netflix and Amazon accounts

    * Stop using US corporations that support Trump, like Uber and Esso.

    * Seek to ban leading financial corporations like Goldman Sachs that are deeply in bed with Trump.

    * Stop buying US products.

    * Access to the UK and Europe for political and business allies of Trump.

    Should we start discussing how this boycott would work and the goals? The key goal is to show Trump that as bad as he is, and as much as he wants to hurt other people, we can hurt the interests of his people more.
    Do you advocate we stop using google?
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    Sounds like a very smart and practical thing to do.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    That's not an accurate analysis. I am advocating resistance against a reactionary plutocrat and his careless, domineering, dangerous global role.
    One of the main reasons you find him to be so dangerous is because he created division between the USA and countries who's ideologies he considers to be poisonous. Now, because of this action, and because you find it to be ideologically poisonous, you are proposing we create similar division between his country and ours. In other words, you are being hypocritical.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    I bet you couldn't do one day without the involvement of US products.
    Hell, bet you couldn't do 6 hours of a normal work day.
    Given that pretty much that Microsoft Office is the standard, I would last one wouldn't need to bother turning up to work at all.
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    (Original post by Willy Pete)
    Don't forget they are also a playground for the cartels.
    It wouldn't happen if the Americans weren't consuming cocaine by the tonnes. The war on drugs has been an utter failure across the whole world.

    We need to legalise all drugs now.
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    Yeah you enjoy getting along using one of those many non-American operating systems, word processors, online shopping services, and whatever the generic term for Uber and Airbnb would be, OP.

    I honestly can't think of a policy position which the US presidency could adopt which would cause me to abandon my amazon prime subscription.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    There are alternatives.
    Well there is DuckDuckGo...

    However Chrome has eclipsed firefox in terms of performance. And gmail let you attach files as big as 50MB. No alternatives can better that.

    Then there is Tesla. One does not boycott Tesla. Ever.


    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    Yeah you enjoy getting along using one of those many non-American operating systems, word processors, online shopping services, and whatever the generic term for Uber and Airbnb would be, OP.

    I honestly can't think of a policy position which the US presidency could adopt which would cause me to abandon my amazon prime subscription.
    You be such a modern slave. Itz most disappointing.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    It wouldn't happen if the Americans weren't consuming cocaine by the tonnes. The war on drugs has been an utter failure across the whole world.

    We need to legalise all drugs now.
    I completely agree, the war on drugs can never be won and is just a waste of money. Better to create a safer local market and tax it.
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    (Original post by Willy Pete)
    I completely agree, the war on drugs can never be won and is just a waste of money. Better to create a safer local market and tax it.
    Poor Mexico, Im not a fan of Trump but if the america gets involved and finally puts its military into use then they can actually bring good change to the country in the long term. I visited Mexico city and that place is a mess, it's the kidnap capital of the world thanks to cartels operating there.
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    So....Apple and Microsoft then? :rofl:
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Poor Mexico, Im not a fan of Trump but if the america gets involved and finally puts its military into use then they can actually bring good change to the country in the long term. I visited Mexico city and that place is a mess, it's the kidnap capital of the world thanks to cartels operating there.
    I can't say I have ever been there, but I have taken a lot of interest in the Mexican Cartel situation over the year and it is a mess by all accounts. I think it might actually be beneficial to Mexico to get a helping hand from the US military to try and combat the ever growing threat, but it could just turn into another warzone like Iraq if they aren't careful.
 
 
 
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