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    How can people get away with selling dead dry leaves for so much money?
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    The government put massive tax on it, because they can. Stupid really.
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    Nicotine addiction plus the tax added portion. If you think they have got bad in the UK, then you should compare it to Australia.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38733502
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    So that you won't smoke it.
    Idk what to say, just ignore your peers when it comes to smoking. There are no advantages to such an expensive habit.
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    (Original post by Mistletoe)
    How can people get away with selling dead dry leaves for so much money?
    Tax. So when you are dying of lung cancer at age 60, it won't be such a financial burden on the NHS when they blast you with enough chemo and radiation to fuel a small nuclear submarine, which probably won't save your sorry backside anyway, it'll just make your death slightly more drawn out and miserable.
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    (Original post by SCIENCE :D)
    The government put massive tax on it, because they can. Stupid really.
    I smoke occasionally and, while tobacco duty is extortionate, I'm happy to pay so much for cigarettes because if I ever cancer as a result I will have paid for my treatment on the NHS. If you live in a society with socialised healthcare and you decide to take up smoking then I think you should pay a lot of tax on top.
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    (Original post by jape)
    I smoke occasionally and, while tobacco duty is extortionate, I'm happy to pay so much for cigarettes because if I ever cancer as a result I will have paid for my treatment on the NHS. If you live in a society with socialised healthcare and you decide to take up smoking then I think you should pay a lot of tax on top.
    Fair enough mate, but I still think the tax is extortionate for a lifestyle choice.
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    (Original post by Mistletoe)
    How can people get away with selling dead dry leaves for so much money?
    Because coffin dodgers will buy those cancer sticks no matter what!
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    Because people buy it.
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    Because of tax, which is designed to fund the increased healthcare costs of smokers, compensate for the lowered economic productivity caused by illness or early death due to smoking, and generally discourage the behaviour.
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    (Original post by Saoirse:3)
    Because of tax, which is designed to fund the increased healthcare costs of smokers

    There is no element of design here and the tax levied on specifically tobacco has never been ringfenced for the NHS or anything else. "which is claimed as justified by the need to fund..." might better describe.


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    ... compensate for the lowered economic productivity caused by illness or early death due to smoking
    if you were only bean-counting, then people's dying on reaching pensionable age would be an ideal. And no-one misses work, or only sits groaning at his desk all day, for having hit the dirty bennies too hard the night before.
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    (Original post by jape)
    I smoke occasionally and, while tobacco duty is extortionate, I'm happy to pay so much for cigarettes because if I ever cancer as a result I will have paid for my treatment on the NHS. If you live in a society with socialised healthcare and you decide to take up smoking then I think you should pay a lot of tax on top.
    NI contributions aren't, as far as I know, voluntary. That is to say, you're forced to pay NI even if you've never used the NHS in your life and are a pretty healthy individual.

    That's the system. We pay for people who drink or eat a lot of processed red meat or don't exercise or lead stressful lives or whatever. A ridiculous amount of money goes to treat preventable illnesses - most heart attacks could be avoided with regular exercise and better nutrition for example.

    But, again, that's the rationale. If people want to move from that to paying proportionally to how often or how much you use the system then that's not socialised healthcare, it's private. Which I'd be all for 'cos I can't stand the smugness and the self-righteousness of the people that criticise smoking and drinking and eating and whatever else is "in" to dislike nowadays. **** you.

    P.S. I'm not a smoker, I drink moderately and am eating better than 99% of the people I know. I swear if smoking made me calmer or happier or w/e, I'd start it just to piss off the self-satisfied busybody lowlives who have nothing better to do than moan about how htey pay for other people's healthcare (they paid for your father's stent and ur grandma's insulin u ****), just to feel better about their miserable stupid lives.
 
 
 
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