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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Nope, nor the Speaker who's disappeared upon this mess.
    Right. I'll await his (the speaker) comment to address these concerns.
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    I'd like to share my views on this matter. Adam has understood that it would be silly to prevent this party from forming just because they don't have a TSR subforum and I think he made a very good decision. With regards to heri2ers, I expect the Speaker will ask them which party they will be a member of and that can be sorted quite quickly.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    I'd like to share my views on this matter. Adam has understood that it would be silly to prevent this party from forming just because they don't have a TSR subforum and I think he made a very good decision. With regards to heri2ers, I expect the Speaker will ask them which party they will be a member of and that can be sorted quite quickly.
    He has apparently already asked them, and given that's he approved the Party, heri2rs should be sanctioned for being in more than one party at once, especially since it's clear adam did not even check, as I never received word from adam about it.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    He has apparently already asked them, and given that's he approved the Party, heri2rs should be sanctioned for being in more than one party at once, especially since it's clear adam did not even check, as I never received word from adam about it.
    Well, I suppose you can presume that at the moment, heri2ers is not a member of the Libertarians until Adam responds to you.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    Well, I suppose you can presume that at the moment, heri2ers is not a member of the Libertarians until Adam responds to you.
    Except that he said in the statement that the OP must be kept up to date with members of the Party, where heri2rs is in, and also _gcx has also said today that he is.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Except that he said in the statement that the OP must be kept up to date with members of the Party, where heri2rs is in, and also _gcx has also said today that he is.
    After this , I think parliament should have a vote on the formation of the party.
    Taughts ?
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    After this , I think parliament should have a vote on the formation of the party.
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    No, the party formation process is set out in the constitution, and I don't have a problem with that. My main problem is the way it's been handled, and that actually, according to their OP, they have 4 not 6 active members (excluding heri2rs and hazzer), and based on that, would the party have been formed...

    As it stands, it's been formed on the basis of 6 active members, and done so fraudulently.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Except that he said in the statement that the OP must be kept up to date with members of the Party, where heri2rs is in, and also _gcx has also said today that he is.
    I thought _gcx had permanently defected though?
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    No, the party formation process is set out in the constitution, and I don't have a problem with that. My main problem is the way it's been handled, and that actually, according to their OP, they have 4 not 6 active members (excluding heri2rs and hazzer), and based on that, would the party have been formed...

    As it stands, it's been formed on the basis of 6 active members, and done so fraudulently.
    Defected to who?
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Defected to who?
    I assume libertarians
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    I assume libertarians
    Oh I see!


    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    I thought _gcx had permanently defected though?
    The 6 I was referring to were: Gladstone, joec, Connor, _gcx, Hazzer and Heri2rs - therefore removing the latter 2 for the reasons I said, leaving them with 4 (including _gcx)
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    adam9317 You've really cocked up here. This is an extremely serious issue - the Tories have now potentially had their subforum privacy breached as a result of your failure to properly assess the situation, which is totally unacceptable. It would have been even more serious if they had been in government. As Socialist CI, I am now not certain that I could trust you to deal with any issue related to our usergroup - for example, a duping scandal - and I would quite like to see you apologise to those involved and explain how you are going to change so that issues like this do not happen in future.

    That said, mobbsy91 should have just done what I did with ByronicHero (who turned out not to intend to actually join the Libers, but who was technically in breach of our dual membership policy anyway), and asked the member in question to leave the Tory UG.
    It has been known that for a few weeks now the libertarians have been in the process of setting themselves up, and Hazzer and heri2 were both listed as members during this time. If they wanted to leak stuff in the last few days, then they could have; simply by being created a party this evening doesn't mean that they will suddenly go leaking information.

    I will be contacting the members in question to see if they wish to remain dual members and if so contact relevant party leaders, otherwise the members must choose immediately where their loyalties lie.

    I am gaining access to the nat lib forums that they have created off site, which they will use in effect as their private sub, allowing me to keep a watchful eye over whatever goes on!
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    adam9317


    Also, it's worth noting that removing Hazzer (who claims not to be a member), and heri2rs (who should be sanctioned and banned for dual membership without permission), the Party only seems to have 4 members according to the OP of their thread.
    Is that right? If it is, then our freshly elected Speaker has been very dumb indeed since I believe the requirement of at least ten members is in the Constitution, is it not?
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    (Original post by adam9317)
    It has been known that for a few weeks now the nat libs have been in the process of setting themselves up, and Hazzer and heri2 were both listed as members during this time. If they wanted to leak stuff in the last few days, then they could have; simply by being created a party this evening doesn't mean that they will suddenly go leaking information.

    I will be contacting the members in question to see if they wish to remain dual members and if so contact relevant party leaders, otherwise the members must choose immediately where their loyalties lie.

    I am gaining access to the nat lib forums that they have created off site, which they will use in effect as their private sub, allowing me to keep a watchful eye over whatever goes on!
    However, as you've declared this as a Party, they are now already dual members. Something that I certainly have not allowed to heri2rs. Therefore he should be sanctioned, and it calls into question why you have allowed the Party to form without sorting this prior to this issue.

    Also, hazzer has since said he is not a member of their Party - was this taken into account when deciding on their activity and if they should form? Otherwise you've allowed it on the basis of 6 members, not 5.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    However, as you've declared this as a Party, they are now already dual members. Something that I certainly have not allowed to heri2rs. Therefore he should be sanctioned, and it calls into question why you have allowed the Party to form without sorting this prior to this issue.

    Also, hazzer has since said he is not a member of their Party - was this taken into account when deciding on their activity and if they should form? Otherwise you've allowed it on the basis of 6 members, not 5.
    At the time of running the checks on the members and discussing with them activity, I had the required numbers, and it is a shame it has changed since then.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    Is that right? If it is, then our freshly elected Speaker has been very dumb indeed since I believe the requirement of at least ten members is in the Constitution, is it not?
    Something like that - along with the requirement of the administration team approving it.

    EDIT: The 10 members is in the GD to be fair! Though 4 is a fair bit less...!
    (Original post by adam9317)
    It has been known that for a few weeks now the nat libs have been in the process of setting themselves up, and Hazzer and heri2 were both listed as members during this time. If they wanted to leak stuff in the last few days, then they could have; simply by being created a party this evening doesn't mean that they will suddenly go leaking information.

    I will be contacting the members in question to see if they wish to remain dual members and if so contact relevant party leaders, otherwise the members must choose immediately where their loyalties lie.

    I am gaining access to the nat lib forums that they have created off site, which they will use in effect as their private sub, allowing me to keep a watchful eye over whatever goes on!
    Do you even know what the Party is called??? The Nat Libs died a long time ago
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Something like that - along with the requirement of the administration team approving it.

    EDIT: The 10 members is in the GD to be fair! Though 4 is a fair bit less...!

    Do you even know what the Party is called??? The Nat Libs died a long time ago
    Give me my bank holiday
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Something like that - along with the requirement of the administration team approving it.

    EDIT: The 10 members is in the GD to be fair! Though 4 is a fair bit less...!

    Do you even know what the Party is called??? The Nat Libs died a long time ago
    A long ****ing day!
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    (Original post by adam9317)
    A long ****ing day!
    And not finished yet, with all the other issues you still haven't addressed.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    adam9317


    Also, it's worth noting that removing Hazzer (who claims not to be a member), and heri2rs (who should be sanctioned and banned for dual membership without permission), the Party only seems to have 4 members according to the OP of their thread.
    What are the official policies regarding revoking a party's acceptance? I'm going to guess not having a certain number of members isn't grounds for that. I would also ask that Adam make an exception given that we don't have a proper subforum and thus it is more difficult to recruit.

    That combined with the Tory party's stated goal of our demise should be enough to permit us to continue our existence.
 
 
 
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