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Fascism - a dirty word but is there a case for certain elements Watch

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    The concept of a single dictator ultimately controlling a population is a bad thing yes.

    But like is not so black and white. If a drug addict walks into a rehabilitation clinic, he will be under the control of a authoritarian institution that will totally govern him, just like a fascist regime. And this is the best thing for him because his will cannot be trusted.

    With the population there are certain men that are sovereign citizens who are capable of running their own affairs. There are other man who need constant supervision and will right away rob people, drink themselves into a stupor or self harm themselves. We all accept that we need some elements of fascism.

    The concept can even apply to a population as a whole. For example today much of the population privately denounces political correctness but through a system of fear they are afraid to openly denounce it. To speedily address this one way would be to use some elements of fascism. While force of coercion are not ultimately desirable tools, in some situations where they can facilitate a goal that is the people's will, surely we would accept this.
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    Faschism would "work" if we had a ruler that was super good super efficent and was a really amazing leader, sadly that is rare.
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    Read up on some anarchist interpretation s of legitimate authority, might help you with this.
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    All power corrupts.

    Though I'd be minded to agree to an extent I think classical republicanism is a far better model with a mixed and limited government. There needs to be some degree of democracy even though pure democracy is mob rule.
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    Most reasonably sane people are not complete ideologues and do support what would appear to be conflicting views including some authoritarian social policies.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Most reasonably sane people are not complete ideologues and do support what would appear to be conflicting views including some authoritarian social policies.
    You are right in that most ordinary people should not be ideologues. But most people are conformists, they robotically copy other people (see my other post about this being a brainwashed island.)

    Most people will take that like that the Nazis were killers, they were fascist therefore fascism is bad. You're not even allowed to debate that without being bashed over the head (sometimes literally) by ideologues lmao.




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    1) but a drug addict voluntarily enters rehab - obviously a dictatorship isn't established through that kind of consent
    2) but it's not our business if certain citizens can't ruin their lives very well - it's not our place to force them to change
    3) authoritarianism isn't even fascism. fascism is an ultra-nationalist, militaristic, totalitarian and corporatist ideology
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    (Original post by Objectivism2017)

    Most people will take that like that the Nazis were killers, they were fascist therefore fascism is bad. You're not even allowed to debate that without being bashed over the head (sometimes literally) by ideologues lmao.

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    What are the odds you don't view communist regimes in the same way with respect to communism as an ideology.
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    In desperate times maybe, the story off Cincinnatus springs to mind. However only in small doses does it work. The roman emperors were all kinda hit and miss
 
 
 
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