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V1110 - Treason and Terrorism (Amendment) Act 2017 (Second Reading) Watch

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    V1110 - Treason and Terrorism (Amendment) Act 2017 (Second Reading), SoggyCabbages MP
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    Treason and Terrorism (Amendment) Bill 2017 (Second Reading)
    An Act to completely remove suffrage from those guilty of Treason and High Treason





    BE IT ENACTED by the Queen’s most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—

    1: Amendment of Section 6
    The following shall be inserted:
    (5) Any prisoner convicted will incur a total loss of suffrage.

    2: Amendment of Section 9
    The following shall be inserted:
    (5) Any prisoner convicted will incurr a total loss of suffrage.

    3: Extent, Commencement and Short Title
    (1) This Act extends to the United Kingdom.
    (2) The provisions of this Act come into force upon Royal Assent.
    (3) This Act may be cited as the Treason and Terrorism (Amendment) Act 2017.


    Notes
    Anyone convicted of such a heinous crime as Treason or High Treason does not deserve the right to vote. Currently in real life, individuals convicted of Treason lose all suffrage apart from in local elections. This amendment introduces the loss of suffrage with no exceptions.

    Original Bill: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=3607595


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    - Tidied up the formatting
    - Altered the notes
    --Increased sobriety levels of author, consequently resulting in the bill looking neater




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    Nay. There is no rational link between these offences and suffrage, and it will not make society better off to have people convicted of these offences denied the vote.
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    Repealling the silly law that makes this necessary and punishing properly would be preferable, but this will have to do for now.
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    This bill doesn't make us safer, it's just a needless step backwards designed to satisfy those who are easily moved to pointless actions by emotive words.

    Nay.
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    As RayApparently has already stated, this is a tad pointless.

    Abstain.
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    (Original post by Emily Porter)
    As RayApparently has already stated, this is a tad pointless.

    Abstain.
    Pointless and yet also questionable with regards to human rights: http://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/FS...s_vote_ENG.pdf
    The current, progressive MHoC, law does not need changing. Worth voting against, no?
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Worth voting against, no?
    Worth voting for, yes?
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    Worth voting for, yes?
    What, *because* it's pointless and questionable?
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Pointless and yet also questionable with regards to human rights: http://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/FS...s_vote_ENG.pdf
    The current, progressive MHoC, law does not need changing. Worth voting against, no?
    If the Echr say it's bad it's probably worth doing.
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    Treason is one of the few crimes for which i would support the death penalty so Aye as a step forward.

    Indeed its worth noting that this very House passed a motion a few terms ago to declare the three ISIS girls as comitting treason. Fortunately, two of them are dead.
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    I do find it very amusing to see hazzer1998 voting in favour of allowing convicted ISIS terrorists, who planned to kills lots of people in Britain, or may have killed lots of people in Britain, the right to vote in British elections.
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    There's still a couple of votes to go of course, but the closeness of the ballot is disconcerting. Letting prisoners vote doesn't even pass the common sense sniff test, let alone any sort of serious consideration.
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    (Original post by jape)
    There's still a couple of votes to go of course, but the closeness of the ballot is disconcerting. Letting prisoners vote doesn't even pass the common sense sniff test, let alone any sort of serious consideration.
    Hear hear!
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    SoggyCabbages are you going to vote aye on your own bill?!?
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    Could you change mine to 'abstain' please?
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    (Original post by Nirvana1989-1994)
    Could you change mine to 'abstain' please?
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    (Original post by Nirvana1989-1994)
    Could you change mine to 'abstain' please?
    One No changed to an abstain for seat 26

    I presume the whips will be out in force for this vote :P
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    SoggyCabbages are you going to vote aye on your own bill?!?
    He's away until 21st February sadly.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    He's away until 21st February sadly.
    Ah ok , the proxy in place better vote for the bill or its out of order
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    He's away until 21st February sadly.
    who's proxying?
 
 
 
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