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V1110 - Treason and Terrorism (Amendment) Act 2017 (Second Reading) Watch

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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    who's proxying?
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    Saracen's Fez you are proxying for the member who constructed this bill , I am positive he would have supported his own bill and as you are proxying his seat I think it be right of you to vote aye or at least abstain.
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    Saracen's Fez you are proxying for the member who constructed this bill , I am positive he would have supported his own bill and as you are proxying his seat I think it be right of you to vote aye or at least abstain.
    You and I will struggle to get along if you try and whip my MPs.
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    adam9317 may my vote be changed to nay please? Thank you
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    adam9317 may my vote be changed to nay please? Thank you
    One Aye has been changed to a Nay for seat 32
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    adam9317 Hey, sorry for the inconvenience but can you please change my vote to a nay?
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    You and I will struggle to get along if you try and whip my MPs.
    Ok noted, I didn't know
    I did a raise fair point tbh though, the guy who made this bill probably supports it!
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Saracen's Fez you are proxying for the member who constructed this bill , I am positive he would have supported his own bill and as you are proxying his seat I think it be right of you to vote aye or at least abstain.
    I don't take instructions from opposition MPs.
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    (Original post by Emily Porter)
    adam9317 Hey, sorry for the inconvenience but can you please change my vote to a nay?
    Looks like RayApparently has brought out the whip
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Ok noted, I didn't know
    I did a raise fair point tbh though, the guy who made this bill probably supports it!
    His is an inscrutable mind.

    (Original post by fleky6910)
    Looks like RayApparently has brought out the whip
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    You and I will struggle to get along if you try and whip my MPs.
    Of course, you want to whip them all yourself
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Of course, you want to whip them all yourself
    :laugh: I'm sure it's a feeling you can empathise with. And people wonder why this was a PMB.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    :laugh: I'm sure it's a feeling you can empathise with. And people wonder why this was a PMB.
    This is unfair mobbsy91 hasn't even whipped this bill.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    :laugh: I'm sure it's a feeling you can empathise with. And people wonder why this was a PMB.
    Oh I thoroughly enjoy a bit of kinkiness, though in actual fact there was no Tory whip in this case - if there was, I can assure you that those defying it would be in the dungeons, awaiting more enjoyable methods of 'fun' :whip:
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    This is unfair mobbsy91 hasn't even whipped this bill.
    Seeing as you're already in favour, you wouldn't know if he had. Indeed I have advised those close to me of my views with regards to this bill but have not chosen to employ the services of the party's Chief Whip to push and prod. That courtesy is entirely due to the fact that the bill was put forward by members of my party.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Seeing as you're already in favour, you wouldn't know if he had. Indeed I have advised those close to me of my views with regards to this bill but have not chosen to employ the services of the party's Chief Whip to push and prod. That courtesy is entirely due to the fact that the bill was put forward by members of my party.
    He would know, as all Party whips are done publicly to the sub-forum.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    He would know, as all Party whips are done publicly to the sub-forum.
    As are ours. But those on the right have been quick to accuse those on the left of 'whipping' if a suggestion is made to anyone by anyone that they should reconsider their vote outside of the formal procedure. I was generously using the looser vernacular of the Opposition.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    As are ours. But those on the right have been quick to accuse those on the left of 'whipping' if a suggestion is made to anyone by anyone that they should reconsider their vote outside of the formal procedure. I was generously using the looser vernacular of the Opposition.
    But then I also think that a whip doesn't necessarily have to be strictly done as a whip. For example, I am sure that if I gave a member a strong account of my views, with strong suggestions of how I think they should vote - without explicitly whipping them - they may well just follow my rather strong suggestion of how I think they should vote.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    But then I also think that a whip doesn't necessarily have to be strictly done as a whip. For example, I am sure that if I gave a member a strong account of my views, with strong suggestions of how I think they should vote - without explicitly whipping them - they may well just follow my rather strong suggestion of how I think they should vote.
    In my view the difference between a whip and a suggestion is very simple. I will quickly forget about ignored suggestions - however 'strong' they were. But I'll remember broken whips at every election, internal vote, frontbench reshuffle or appointment that follows.

    Only kidding, peace and love yall. :angel:
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    In my view the difference between a whip and a suggestion is very simple. I will quickly forget about ignored suggestions - however 'strong' they were. But I'll remember broken whips at every election, internal vote, frontbench reshuffle or appointment that follows.

    Only kidding, peace and love yall. :angel:
    Bit soft! If a member is to break a whip of mine, they would be at the very least suspended!
 
 
 
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