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Australia: 7% of catholic priests have been accused of abusing children Watch

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    7% of Australia’s Catholic priests were accused of abusing children in the six decades since 1950, according to new data from the royal commission.

    The average age of alleged victims was around 11 years old.

    The disturbing figures were revealed by senior counsel assisting, Gail Furness, SC. She also revealed that the Holy See had refused to hand over documents involving Australian priests accused of abuse.

    “The royal commission hoped to gain an understanding of the action taken in each case,” Furness said. “The Holy See responded, on 1 July 2014, that it was ‘neither possible nor appropriate to provide the information requested’,” she said.

    Furness said the responses of Catholic diocese and orders across the country were “depressingly similar”.

    “Children were ignored or worse, punished. Allegations were not investigated. Priests and religious [brothers] were moved. The parishes or communities to which they were moved knew nothing of their past,” she said. “Documents were not kept or they were destroyed. Secrecy prevailed as did cover-ups.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ed?CMP=soc_567

    As horrible as this is, and I don't want to sound like I'm minimizing the crimes of individual priests or the people helping cover up these crimes, the real problem imho is that our governments have allowed the church to run their own system of justice.

    Each and every time there was an accusation, it should have been referred to and investigated by local police, and prosecuted through secular courts. Clergy who do not involve government legal authorities, or who do not cooperate and turn over evidence, should be charged with obstruction, "aiding and abetting", and other crimes which any other organisation would be held to.

    We've allowed the church to run their own legal system as a hold-over from the middle ages; and it's really only because of the power of electronic media that we have shed light on how badly this arrangement is failing us.
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    It's interesting to note that child sex abuse is definitely more prevalent (proportionally) among the catholic priests than among the general population. If I was to hazard a guess as to how it started out I'd have thought sexual frustration from the celibacy likely plays a large part. And funnily enough there's no real biblical justification for priests to remain celibate at all. Absolutely **** all.

    Of course then because the church cares a lot about it's image they then decide to cover it all up, that bit about confession being totally confidential (which I sort of understand tbf but again more specific biblical justification for that is hard to come up with) only aids in keeping things under wraps, generally the way the catholic church runs allows it to happen very easily when there's no real justification for them to not just shift a few things around a bit and rethink how they run themselves.
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    Only 7%?
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    7% of Australia’s Catholic priests were accused of abusing children in the six decades since 1950, according to new data from the royal commission.

    The average age of alleged victims was around 11 years old.

    The disturbing figures were revealed by senior counsel assisting, Gail Furness, SC. She also revealed that the Holy See had refused to hand over documents involving Australian priests accused of abuse.

    “The royal commission hoped to gain an understanding of the action taken in each case,” Furness said. “The Holy See responded, on 1 July 2014, that it was ‘neither possible nor appropriate to provide the information requested’,” she said.

    Furness said the responses of Catholic diocese and orders across the country were “depressingly similar”.

    “Children were ignored or worse, punished. Allegations were not investigated. Priests and religious [brothers] were moved. The parishes or communities to which they were moved knew nothing of their past,” she said. “Documents were not kept or they were destroyed. Secrecy prevailed as did cover-ups.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ed?CMP=soc_567

    As horrible as this is, and I don't want to sound like I'm minimizing the crimes of individual priests or the people helping cover up these crimes, the real problem imho is that our governments have allowed the church to run their own system of justice.

    Each and every time there was an accusation, it should have been referred to and investigated by local police, and prosecuted through secular courts. Clergy who do not involve government legal authorities, or who do not cooperate and turn over evidence, should be charged with obstruction, "aiding and abetting", and other crimes which any other organisation would be held to.

    We've allowed the church to run their own legal system as a hold-over from the middle ages; and it's really only because of the power of electronic media that we have shed light on how badly this arrangement is failing us.
    Religion loves its power to abuse little boys, nonces everywhere
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    (Original post by Retired_Messiah)
    It's interesting to note that child sex abuse is definitely more prevalent (proportionally) among the catholic priests than among the general population. If I was to hazard a guess as to how it started out I'd have thought sexual frustration from the celibacy likely plays a large part. And funnily enough there's no real biblical justification for priests to remain celibate at all. Absolutely **** all.

    Where there are little boys and unquestioned authority, the nonces go
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    Only 7%?
    That we know of. The church is quite secretive, and not every victim comes forwards (especially male victims).
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    So, in other news, 93% of Catholic Priests haven't been accused of sexual abuse?
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    (Original post by SnowflakeFurnace)
    So, in other news, 93% of Catholic Priests haven't been accused of sexual abuse?
    Not quite. 93% haven't been accused of sexually abusing children... yet.
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    (Original post by rolaah)
    Catholicism is tha devil
    That's racist!
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    Catholic Priests are an easy target for these kind of accusations. They are not going to burn your house down or trash your car are they ? They devote their lives to helping their parishioners with only spiritual comfort to keep them warm at night.
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    (Original post by the bear)
    They devote their lives to helping their parishioners with only spiritual comfort to keep them warm at night.
    7% of them have little boys keeping them warm, evidently
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    You have needless sexual repression, combined with the arrogance from belief that they have divine authority and then they have positions of power over young kids who's parents are taught to/have more love for God and the Church, then their own kids.

    It's really no wonder why this happens.
    But muh religious freedom.
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    (Original post by Zargabaath)
    7% of them have little boys keeping them warm, evidently
    no.... if someone is "accused" of something it does not mean they did it.
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    (Original post by the bear)
    no.... if someone is "accused" of something it does not mean they did it.
    True, the actual number is likely higher, with all the poor kids too scared to come forward or being supressed their families or the Church.

    Must be awful having people around you that you look up to, protecting your abuser.
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    (Original post by the bear)
    no.... if someone is "accused" of something it does not mean they did it.
    Indeed. I don't know what the rate of accusation is amongst the general population, but I imagine that it is much lower than for these men.
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    I wonder not whether celibacy makes them want to touch little boys, but rather they have that urge and try to hide it by priesthood.

    I mean that is both a) homosexual and b) pedophilia.

    No matter how horny you get from lack of sex, surely it won't make you both a) and b)?
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    I wonder not whether celibacy makes them want to touch little boys, but rather they have that urge and try to hide it by priesthood.

    I mean that is both a) homosexual and b) pedophilia.

    No matter how horny you get from lack of sex, surely it won't make you both a) and b)?
    Safe spaces don't come much safer than the Catholic Church.
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    (Original post by Goat Boy)
    Safe spaces don't come much safer than the Catholic Church.
    Agreed.
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    Disgusting, but not surprising.
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    (Original post by Mordecai on High)
    Disgusting, but not surprising.
    Tbh, I was surprised the figures weren't higher.
 
 
 
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