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    (Original post by TheProphetsPath)
    It's seems more odd to me that people suggest if you are doing one bad thing, you should do more bad things; such as dress immodestly.
    I'm laughing because
    1. You think going to a music concert is bad, and
    2. You think people seeing your hair is bad.
    :rofl:
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    (Original post by QE2)
    I'm laughing because
    1. You think going to a music concert is bad, and
    2. You think people seeing your hair is bad.
    :rofl:
    Both are a sin.
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    (Original post by QE2)
    I'm laughing because
    1. You think going to a music concert is bad, and
    2. You think people seeing your hair is bad.
    :rofl:
    oi, be nice.

    Muslims should not be surrounding themselves with such an environment and yes, muslimahs have to cover their head... you know this.
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    (Original post by PrincessBO$$)
    Both are a sin.
    That is the joke.
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    (Original post by TheProphetsPath)
    Here is a better perspective y'all should watch.

    Jeez! Don't Muslims just get sick of constantly being told what to do, at great length, by other Muslims on the internet? It's almost like they don't want you to think for yourselves.
    And the endless flawed analogies and misrepresentations? Save me!
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    (Original post by PrincessBO$$)
    Both are a sin.
    You are so going to hell if you hear some music or take your hijab off!

    SO sinful. Full of sin. Staying in sin city. 😂
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    (Original post by astutehirstute)
    You are so going to hell if you hear some music or take your hijab off!

    SO sinful. Full of sin. Staying in sin city. 😂
    Didnt say the person is going to hell. I said you'll sin if you do both. What is funny about this?
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    (Original post by PrincessBO$$)
    i didnt go in the end and im glad i didnt.
    Well thats good you didnt go :rolleyes: so if you were to go in the future , you'd go in a hijab? Then someone would make a post about Drake saying something to you
    (Original post by PrincessBO$$)
    I didnt go. However if i were to go you're telling my i should take my hijab off before i go? Thats pretty stupid. I know i was stupid for wanting to go. Your telling me i should do another sin whilst doing a sin. Very logical wallah.

    Wallah i actually think your the only 1 in this thread that has comman sense.
    Why would you even go to a concert in a hijab :erm: like just dont even go so then you dont even have to take the Hijab off?
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    (Original post by TheProphetsPath)
    You are lying. You are just spreading a misconception.
    Ah, so the hijab is compulsory. Women do not have a choice about wearing it, and in a True Islamic State™ wearing it would be enforced. Also, Allah is displeased with women who refuse to wear it.

    So tell me again about how it isn't a symbol of gender oppression?

    Also, in one of these videos NA Khan claims that it is OK to beat your wife (under certain conditions), so I'd be careful about holding him up as some kind of authority on Islam.
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    (Original post by PrincessBO$$)
    Didnt say the person is going to hell. I said you'll sin if you do both. What is funny about this?
    Believing that you have to cover your head in case God gets quite irate is laughable.
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    (Original post by AishaGirl)
    My mother is British and my father is Egyptian and I fear Allah. There is no reason to suggest my children will not learn the religion the same way I have.
    So you're a sort of 2nd and a half generation (I'm a third generation myself) British citizen. When your kids have kids and their kids have kids I will imagine a different picture being painted to how you were brought up and how you aim to raise your offspring.

    Your offspring become harder to control as when they leave your house to go out every day, they're exposed to differing views entirely, boyfriends/girlfriends at school, weed sellers, cigarette smokers, multiple divorced teachers, girls in bikini's, porn, and the most important factor of all, the internet, social media and technology in general. Which are pretty much the unique driving factors in westernisation of those who have emigrated.

    Im a living example, I went to catholic primary school brought up on catholic values, talking back to my teacher would result in my parents being called and me being disciplined, secondary school was completely different, had never spoken to a muslim in my life up until secondary school whereby I met loads, some conservative (growing beards, Jummah every friday, loved science and maths, not confronting etc) but alot of extroverted wannabe gangsters ('im a paki soldier of allah bang bang' not very demonstrative of their religion, alot seemed like they had chips on their shoulders, they would fight amongst each other, form gangs and eventually sell and use drugs) generally materialistic westernised individuals who used their religion as leverage and a scapegoat in situations to benefit them. Being around so many differing people distorted my view on religion and basically I came to the conclusion its all a pile of rubbish (Religion to me is just laws written thousands of years ago that was the law of the land at that time, as people were generally less moral back then, they required an indoctrination of fear, as there was no explanation of things such as natural disasters or disease back then, it was hijacked by leaders and said its a punishment 'of the god/s' the way western people live now in 2000 years, might be a religion. The US constitution in 2000 years might be a religion)

    Essentially, how your kids are brought up and how they become is not entirely within your ability to influence them.
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    (Original post by Lychee627)
    Well thats good you didnt go :rolleyes: so if you were to go in the future , you'd go in a hijab? Then someone would make a post about Drake saying something to you

    Why would you even go to a concert in a hijab :erm: like just dont even go so then you dont even have to take the Hijab off?
    Sorry i didnt get what you said in you first few lines.

    I have never been to a concert. For obvious reason. But lets just say someday i did i wouldnt take my hijab off cause at this point in my life i've been wearing it for soo long its like a second skin. So it would hurt me to take it off for this.
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    (Original post by astutehirstute)
    Believing that you have to cover your head in case God gets quite irate is laughable.
    Did you have your little chuckle? There there be a good boy and post elsewhere.
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    (Original post by Apocrypha)
    So you're a sort of 2nd and a half generation (I'm a third generation myself) British citizen. When your kids have kids and their kids have kids I will imagine a different picture being painted to how you were brought up and how you aim to raise your offspring.

    Your offspring become harder to control as when they leave your house to go out every day, they're exposed to differing views entirely, boyfriends/girlfriends at school, weed sellers, cigarette smokers, multiple divorced teachers, girls in bikini's, porn, and the most important factor of all, the internet, social media and technology in general. Which are pretty much the unique driving factors in westernisation of those who have emigrated.

    Im a living example, I went to catholic primary school brought up on catholic values, talking back to my teacher would result in my parents being called and me being disciplined, secondary school was completely different, had never spoken to a muslim in my life up until secondary school whereby I met loads, some conservative (growing beards, Jummah every friday, loved science and maths, not confronting etc) but alot of extroverted wannabe gangsters ('im a paki soldier of allah bang bang' not very demonstrative of their religion, alot seemed like they had chips on their shoulders, they would fight amongst each other, form gangs and eventually sell and use drugs) generally materialistic westernised individuals who used their religion as leverage and a scapegoat in situations to benefit them. Being around so many differing people distorted my view on religion and basically I came to the conclusion its all a pile of rubbish (Religion to me is just laws written thousands of years ago that was the law of the land at that time, as people were generally less moral back then, they required an indoctrination of fear, as there was no explanation of things such as natural disasters or disease back then, it was hijacked by leaders and said its a punishment 'of the god/s' the way western people live now in 2000 years, might be a religion. The US constitution in 2000 years might be a religion)

    Essentially, how your kids are brought up and how they become is not entirely within your ability to influence them.
    Sorry for randomly calling you out. But how are your children being exposed to divorced teachers really that bad? are they gonna assault the child?
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    (Original post by Apocrypha)
    So you're a sort of 2nd and a half generation (I'm a third generation myself) British citizen. When your kids have kids and their kids have kids I will imagine a different picture being painted to how you were brought up and how you aim to raise your offspring.

    Your offspring become harder to control as when they leave your house to go out every day, they're exposed to differing views entirely, boyfriends/girlfriends at school, weed sellers, cigarette smokers, multiple divorced teachers, girls in bikini's, porn, and the most important factor of all, the internet, social media and technology in general. Which are pretty much the unique driving factors in westernisation of those who have emigrated.

    Im a living example, I went to catholic primary school brought up on catholic values, talking back to my teacher would result in my parents being called and me being disciplined, secondary school was completely different, had never spoken to a muslim in my life up until secondary school whereby I met loads, some conservative (growing beards, Jummah every friday, loved science and maths, not confronting etc) but alot of extroverted wannabe gangsters ('im a paki soldier of allah bang bang' not very demonstrative of their religion, alot seemed like they had chips on their shoulders, they would fight amongst each other, form gangs and eventually sell and use drugs) generally materialistic westernised individuals who used their religion as leverage and a scapegoat in situations to benefit them. Being around so many differing people distorted my view on religion and basically I came to the conclusion its all a pile of rubbish (Religion to me is just laws written thousands of years ago that was the law of the land at that time, as people were generally less moral back then, they required an indoctrination of fear, as there was no explanation of things such as natural disasters or disease back then, it was hijacked by leaders and said its a punishment 'of the god/s' the way western people live now in 2000 years, might be a religion. The US constitution in 2000 years might be a religion)

    Essentially, how your kids are brought up and how they become is not entirely within your ability to influence them.
    I don't think piety is reduced as the generation goes on. Like it gets watered down with each succession, I just think it boils down to how well the child is taught the religion, I know dozens of Muslims who don't know a single verse in the Quran from memory or what the prayer times are.

    This just stinks of poor education from the parents and now they're just not interested and shaytan has got his grip on them.

    I'm sure if they actually took the time to learn the deen now they would realise.
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    (Original post by AishaGirl)
    Not my kids, I'ma smack em up if they start eating porking or fornicating, doing drugs and drinking alcohol etc. :naughty:

    I will raise them well
    A good parent does not indoctrinate their children. There is absolutely no need for kids under the age of, say, 14, to be taught anything about religion other than in a comparative, historical context. (But we all know why organised religion does not want this. They know that if children did not find out about Islam, Christianity, etc until they were 14 or 16 they would probably reject it as obvious nonsense.)

    Teach them about the dangers of drink, drugs, unprotected sex, etc, by all means, but to tell a child that he can't have a hot dog because of his parent's medieval superstition is just unkind.
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    (Original post by doodle_333)
    but if I was one of the girls being told to take off my religious dress
    It wasn't their religious dress, it was their religious scarf.
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    (Original post by PrincessBO$$)
    Sorry i didnt get what you said in you first few lines.

    I have never been to a concert. For obvious reason. But lets just say someday i did i wouldnt take my hijab off cause at this point in my life i've been wearing it for soo long its like a second skin. So it would hurt me to take it off for this.
    Thats what I am saying! Why would you even go to a concert in the first place if you are a hijabi

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    Wears a hijab for modesty, goes to the concert of a man who sings about sex.... makes sense
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    (Original post by Apocrypha)
    The process is longer depending on where you live and its a bit case by case, if you're living in an area with a dense Muslim population such as certain areas of the country then western influence is a longer process than it would be in others, but generally when emigrating to a different culture, as generations go by, offspring will adhere to the culture of the country they're born and bred in.

    It boils down to religion not being a part of a country's law making entities, if you're in a place where you can do something legally by law, but illegal by your religion, then over time you're more likely to do it given you wont be arrested, and you can just hide it from your family, church/mosque etc.

    Most atheists/agnostic non religious people you meet in the UK are probably white/british, but chances are a few generations ago their families were religious, catholic/protestant etc..

    I myself was born a catholic, had communion, but stopped going to church at around age 10, and now I engage in many things that would be deemed non catholic.

    It's this fear of generational adaptation that has fringe groups in the country wanting to implement sharia law etc..
    Recent surveys of Muslims have suggested that the 16-25 age group are actually more conservative that their parents. It seems to be connected to the rise of Saudi financed Wahhabiism, especially on the internet.
 
 
 
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