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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    yay. Finally a socialist agrees with one of our bills!
    Beware of the whip from DMcGovern
    The Socialists don't have whips.
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    The Socialists don't have whips.
    That's why nobody wants to have sex with you
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    (Original post by ByronicHero)
    That's why nobody wants to have sex with you
    Bruh
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    yay. Finally a socialist agrees with one of our bills!
    Beware of the whip from DMcGovern
    Actually, the Tories on the whole supported my first Bill - Tory-Soc opposition isn't perennial.
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    Whilst I agree that some senior staff will be need to be demoted, I don't understand why all of them must be. For example, finding new pastoral care workers (I presume) would be particularly challenging considering many people do not wish to work in pastoral care
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    yay. Finally a socialist agrees with one of our bills!
    Beware of the whip from DMcGovern
    I mean I think you'll find it agreed in principle and its only because this is a very left wing bill

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    (Original post by Emily Porter)
    Whilst I agree that some senior staff will be need to be demoted, I don't understand why all of them must be. For example, finding new pastoral care workers (I presume) would be particularly challenging considering many people do not wish to work in pastoral care
    This. It is extremely unfair to demote/"let go" those who are not responsible for the school's "poor standards". (such as pastoral care workers, as you mentioned) As I suggested before, individual review would be required. A blanket action would be absurd, to say the least.
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    yay. Finally a socialist agrees with one of our bills!
    Beware of the whip from DMcGovern
    i’m a very slight aye.
    in fact no
    i can’t capitalism doesn’t allow this
    throwing money doesn’t work
    keynes was a liar

    can i get my vote changed to a nay please?
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    (Original post by frankielogue)
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    throwing money doesn’t work
    keynes was a liar
    In certain cases it works , others it fails. Look at the 70's , there are times it has failed,time it has worked. Partially the only reason it appeared to succeed is because assets were liquefied at the war and the war gave full time employment. Although it may perhaps deserve some credit.
    But I think James Callaghan put it nicely:
    "We used to think that you could spend your way out of a recession and increase employment by cutting taxes and boosting government spending. I tell you in all candour that that option no longer exists, and in so far as it ever did exist, it only worked on each occasion since the war by injecting a bigger dose of inflation into the economy, followed by a higher level of unemployment as the next step."
    As Nigel Farage MEP put it , the fiscal multiplier can be negative. As well all economic theories( including Keynesian economics) are right to a degree. An answer lies to a mix of all of them. You can't simply dismiss the likes of Friedman and Rothbard.

    I think Trump will be testing if deficit spending benefits the economy and if it works then maybe it's a lesson!
    However Keynesian economics doesn't equal left wing.
    Both Regan and Trump used ./ will use them .
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    In certain cases it works , others it fails. Look at the 70's , there are times it has failed,time it has worked. Partially the only reason it appeared to succeed is because assets were liquefied at the war and the war gave full time employment. Although it may perhaps deserve some credit.
    But I think James Callaghan put it nicely:
    "We used to think that you could spend your way out of a recession and increase employment by cutting taxes and boosting government spending. I tell you in all candour that that option no longer exists, and in so far as it ever did exist, it only worked on each occasion since the war by injecting a bigger dose of inflation into the economy, followed by a higher level of unemployment as the next step."
    As Nigel Farage MEP put it , the fiscal multiplier can be negative. As well all economic theories( including Keynesian economics) are right to a degree. An answer lies to a mix of all of them. You can't simply dismiss the likes of Friedman and Rothbard.

    I think Trump will be testing if deficit spending benefits the economy and if it works then maybe it's a lesson!
    However Keynesian economics doesn't equal left wing.
    Both Regan and Trump used ./ will use them .
    i’m left wing and not a keynesian
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    (Original post by frankielogue)
    i’m left wing and not a keynesian
    So why mention Keynes?
    Are you a Marxist?
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    So why mention Keynes?
    Are you a Marxist?
    marxist. i said keynes was a liar as a joke reference to the spending of the bill
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    (Original post by frankielogue)
    marxist. i said keynes was a liar as a joke reference to the spending of the bill
    It'll be interesting to see the influence you had on the TheDefiniteArticle's budget, I'm hoping its not too extreme
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    (Original post by fleky6910)
    It'll be interesting to see the influence you had on the TheDefiniteArticle's budget, I'm hoping its not too extreme
    Little. I voice my opinion many times but in a small voice.
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    (Original post by frankielogue)
    Little. I voice my opinion many times but in a small voice.
    FWIW, while the budget will obviously be left wing, I think it's clear and accepted that it won't be remotely communist.

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    (Original post by frankielogue)
    marxist. i said keynes was a liar as a joke reference to the spending of the bill
    People still believe in that Marxist rubbish?
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    People still believe in that Marxist rubbish?
    The simple answer would be: yes, unfortunately.
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    The simple answer would be: yes, unfortunately.
    I know some individuals have different ideas but Marxism is accepted as having lots of flaws in.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    People still believe in that Marxist rubbish?
    (Original post by _gcx)
    The simple answer would be: yes, unfortunately.
    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I know some individuals have different ideas but Marxism is accepted as having lots of flaws in.
    I have my own independent views of it; I am not fully in support of Marxist ideology but, for example, I support the Law of Contradictions
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    FWIW, while the budget will obviously be left wing, I think it's clear and accepted that it won't be remotely communist.

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    I gathered, it would only be natural.
 
 
 
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