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    (Original post by swainyy)
    You're absolutely correct, the US has done everything in it's power to arm and sustain ISIS ever since it's inception. Also, Russia has mainly concentrated on oil fields that ISIS controlled and also targeted ISIS oil convoys going to Turkey. Of course, Putin has targeted other rebel groups but he is allied to Assad, so he is going to support him.

    If other 'moderate' rebel groups have to suffer in order to rid the world of ISIS, then so be it.
    The US has never armed or supported ISIS. They have also been targeting ISIS oil infrastructure, and the very first British strikes in Syria were on oilfields.

    In terms of territory retaken, the US intervention has caused ISIS to lose pretty much all of their border with Turkey, and most of a Syrian province (Hassakeh province used to have a large ISIS presence, now it's limited to a few small villages). ISIS lost its connection to Turkey, and their main stronghold of Raqqa is now under threat from US backed forces who haven't really had any failed offensives.

    Russia's intervention caused ISIS to lose Palmyra (which they then retook 8-9 months later), part of Raqqa province (totally recaptured by ISIS within weeks), and an area of countryside east of Aleppo (which the government still holds). The Russians have certainly helped the Syrian army hold the frontline in many places, but don't overestimate how effective they've been.
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    The US has never armed or supported ISIS. They have also been targeting ISIS oil infrastructure, and the very first British strikes in Syria were on oilfields.

    In terms of territory retaken, the US intervention has caused ISIS to lose pretty much all of their border with Turkey, and most of a Syrian province (Hassakeh province used to have a large ISIS presence, now it's limited to a few small villages). And they haven't really had any failed offensives.

    Russia's intervention caused ISIS to lose Palmyra (which then then retook 8-9 months later), part of Raqqa province (totally recaptured by ISIS within weeks), and an area of countryside east of Aleppo (which the government still holds). The Russians have certainly helped the Syrian army hold the frontline in places like Deir Ezzor, east Homs and the Aleppo supply route, but don't overestimate how effective they've been.
    My friend you are ignorant of what is happening in the middle-east.

    The USA has actively been involved in empowering and using ISIS to topple Assad in Syria. This was recently confirmed in a leaked recording of John Kerry, where he confirmed in a discussion with syrian rebel groups that the USA allowed the rise of ISIS in hopes of it destroying Assad so that he would negotiate with the USA....



    In Iraq a few years ago the USA was every other day making "accidental" weapon drops to ISIS...it became so common that the iraqi minister of defence came out on TV and said that the Iraqi aremd forces where given orders to shoot down any coalition plane suspected of making drops to isis.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-70jcmyZ0k

    in the beginning of the syrian war ISIS and all other rebel groups were fighting together. This was when the USA was arming, training and sending money to them all....

    http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/officials...ase-in-jordan/
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    My friend you are ignorant of what is happening in the middle-east.

    The USA has actively been involved in empowering and using ISIS to topple Assad in Syria. This was recently confirmed in a leaked recording of John Kerry, where he confirmed in a discussion with syrian rebel groups that the USA allowed the rise of ISIS in hopes of it destroying Assad so that he would negotiate with the USA....



    In Iraq a few years ago the USA was every other day making "accidental" weapon drops to ISIS...it became so common that the iraqi minister of defence came out on TV and said that the Iraqi aremd forces where given orders to shoot down any coalition plane suspected of making drops to isis.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-70jcmyZ0k

    in the beginning of the syrian war ISIS and all other rebel groups were fighting together. This was when the USA was arming, training and sending money to them all....

    http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/officials...ase-in-jordan/
    The US has never supported ISIS deliberately in any way, shape or form.

    There have been airdrops to anti-ISIS forces. In Kobane, which is where that video is from, the US airdropped 27 crates into the town. ONE of those crates were captured by ISIS, the others all made it to the YPG as intended, who were surrounded by ISIS and running low on supplies. It ended up being a decisive defeat for ISIS that resulted in them losing a lot of territory in northern Syria, but it could have gone very differently without those supply drops to the YPG. You using that as evidence of "support" for ISIS is laughable.

    There is no evidence of the US airdropping weapons to ISIS other than this occasion where one crate fell into their territory by accident. A lot of Iraqi politicians are very anti-American and see America as the enemy, as are many Shia militia commanders, and have good motive to make up rubbish like this.

    Now, the US has certainly supplied some Syrian rebels, and some of that made its way to ISIS through defections and ISIS capturing their bases. But that is not the same thing at all as actually supporting them - by that logic, the former Soviet Union supports ISIS because the overwhelming majority of ISIS' weapons and all of their tanks are old Soviet equipment captured from Syrian army stockpiles. Which is clearly nonsense.

    But of course, rubbish about "the US arming ISIS" makes nice clickbait which is why it's so prevalent on the internet.
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    The US has never supported ISIS deliberately in any way, shape or form.

    There have been airdrops to anti-ISIS forces. In Kobane, which is where that video is from, the US airdropped 27 crates into the town. ONE of those crates were captured by ISIS, the others all made it to the YPG as intended, who were surrounded by ISIS and running low on supplies. It ended up being a decisive defeat for ISIS that resulted in them losing a lot of territory in northern Syria, but it could have gone very differently without those supply drops to the YPG. You using that as evidence of "support" for ISIS is laughable.

    There is no evidence of the US airdropping weapons to ISIS other than this occasion where one crate fell into their territory by accident. A lot of Iraqi politicians are very anti-American and see America as the enemy, as are many Shia militia commanders, and have good motive to make up rubbish like this.

    Now, the US has certainly supplied some Syrian rebels, and some of that made its way to ISIS through defections and ISIS capturing their bases. But that is not the same thing at all as actually supporting them - by that logic, the former Soviet Union supports ISIS because the overwhelming majority of ISIS' weapons and all of their tanks are old Soviet equipment captured from Syrian army stockpiles. Which is clearly nonsense.

    But of course, rubbish about "the US arming ISIS" makes nice clickbait which is why it's so prevalent on the internet.
    Well said. It's also worth noting the OP is anti-abortion and believes men are oppressed :toofunny:
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    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    The US has never supported ISIS deliberately in any way, shape or form.

    There have been airdrops to anti-ISIS forces. In Kobane, which is where that video is from, the US airdropped 27 crates into the town. ONE of those crates were captured by ISIS, the others all made it to the YPG as intended, who were surrounded by ISIS and running low on supplies. It ended up being a decisive defeat for ISIS that resulted in them losing a lot of territory in northern Syria, but it could have gone very differently without those supply drops to the YPG. You using that as evidence of "support" for ISIS is laughable.

    There is no evidence of the US airdropping weapons to ISIS other than this occasion where one crate fell into their territory by accident. A lot of Iraqi politicians are very anti-American and see America as the enemy, as are many Shia militia commanders, and have good motive to make up rubbish like this.

    Now, the US has certainly supplied some Syrian rebels, and some of that made its way to ISIS through defections and ISIS capturing their bases. But that is not the same thing at all as actually supporting them - by that logic, the former Soviet Union supports ISIS because the overwhelming majority of ISIS' weapons and all of their tanks are old Soviet equipment captured from Syrian army stockpiles. Which is clearly nonsense.

    But of course, rubbish about "the US arming ISIS" makes nice clickbait which is why it's so prevalent on the internet.
    lol...clickbait..!! for me to correct your distorted view of what is happening the middle-east I need to teach you the history of the war in syria and iraq and i don't think that i have the patience for this...

    In the beginning of the conflict in syria when all the rebel groups including ISIS were fighting under one banner and best buds america's money and arms and training was empowering them all including ISIS.....this is all common sense. You try to make excuses for the american support of isis as if america is above supporting terrorist groups....hell, the americans helped form alqaeda to fight against the russians in afghanistan. The CIA personally trained osama bin laden....and you talk about this terrorist state as if it were above supporting terrorism....The USA is the definition of terrorism...

    Still they openly train and arm the other groups in syria....which are just as big a terrorists and head choppers as isis... stop making excuses for this terrorist state and its support of these terroirst groups.
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    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    The US has never supported ISIS deliberately in any way, shape or form.

    There have been airdrops to anti-ISIS forces. In Kobane, which is where that video is from, the US airdropped 27 crates into the town. ONE of those crates were captured by ISIS, the others all made it to the YPG as intended, who were surrounded by ISIS and running low on supplies. It ended up being a decisive defeat for ISIS that resulted in them losing a lot of territory in northern Syria, but it could have gone very differently without those supply drops to the YPG. You using that as evidence of "support" for ISIS is laughable.

    There is no evidence of the US airdropping weapons to ISIS other than this occasion where one crate fell into their territory by accident. A lot of Iraqi politicians are very anti-American and see America as the enemy, as are many Shia militia commanders, and have good motive to make up rubbish like this.

    Now, the US has certainly supplied some Syrian rebels, and some of that made its way to ISIS through defections and ISIS capturing their bases. But that is not the same thing at all as actually supporting them - by that logic, the former Soviet Union supports ISIS because the overwhelming majority of ISIS' weapons and all of their tanks are old Soviet equipment captured from Syrian army stockpiles. Which is clearly nonsense.

    But of course, rubbish about "the US arming ISIS" makes nice clickbait which is why it's so prevalent on the internet.
    One of the many terrorist groups the USA backs in syria Al zinki
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-filmed-cutti/

    The US giving a formal statement about the incident....and how they support the group...note: the allegations were proven true and the USA carries on supporting them to this day.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6yTteePJMU

    Still from the video of the murder of the child showing the Al-zinki members involved in the chopping of the child's head.... the USA supports these people with money, weapons and training....

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    The USA and these Islamic extremists....Terrorists supporting terrorists...
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    One of the many terrorist groups the USA backs in syria Al zinki
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-filmed-cutti/

    The US giving a formal statement about the incident....and how they support the group...note: the allegations were proven true and the USA carries on supporting them to this day.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6yTteePJMU

    Al-zinki group the USA's best buds:

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    Terrorists supporting terrorists...
    They're a reprehensible group who have just joined with Syria's rebranded al Qaeda. But they are not part of ISIS. It's also unclear as to whether they are actually US supported anymore - there were claims of support to this specific group being cut quite a while ago, and some who think they're still being supported or were supported until more recently.

    Just because I don't like nonsense conspiracy theories doesn't mean I support absolutely everything the US does in Syria or the wider Middle East.
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    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    They're a reprehensible group who have just joined with Syria's rebranded al Qaeda. But they are not part of ISIS. It's also unclear as to whether they are actually US supported anymore - there were claims of support to this specific group being cut quite a while ago, and some who think they're still being supported or were supported until more recently.

    Just because I don't like nonsense conspiracy theories doesn't mean I support absolutely everything the US does in Syria or the wider Middle East.
    My man, the only one making conspiracy theories here is you in your desperate attempt to defend a war mongering, state sponsor of terrorism.
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    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    The US has never supported ISIS deliberately in any way, shape or form.

    There have been airdrops to anti-ISIS forces. In Kobane, which is where that video is from, the US airdropped 27 crates into the town. ONE of those crates were captured by ISIS, the others all made it to the YPG as intended, who were surrounded by ISIS and running low on supplies. It ended up being a decisive defeat for ISIS that resulted in them losing a lot of territory in northern Syria, but it could have gone very differently without those supply drops to the YPG. You using that as evidence of "support" for ISIS is laughable.

    There is no evidence of the US airdropping weapons to ISIS other than this occasion where one crate fell into their territory by accident. A lot of Iraqi politicians are very anti-American and see America as the enemy, as are many Shia militia commanders, and have good motive to make up rubbish like this.

    Now, the US has certainly supplied some Syrian rebels, and some of that made its way to ISIS through defections and ISIS capturing their bases. But that is not the same thing at all as actually supporting them - by that logic, the former Soviet Union supports ISIS because the overwhelming majority of ISIS' weapons and all of their tanks are old Soviet equipment captured from Syrian army stockpiles. Which is clearly nonsense.

    But of course, rubbish about "the US arming ISIS" makes nice clickbait which is why it's so prevalent on the internet.
    You see, you believe all this government nonsense because without the right kind of special hat, the CIA mind waves control your thoughts. You can only get THE TRUTH from certain websites and YouTube channels. And the reason that there is no corroboration for their claims is because the CIA destroys all the evidence - which is proof that they must be right. Coz if they weren't, why are the CIA destroying all the evidence before anyone can get to see it. Obviously. It's all there, you just have to want to see it. Excelsior!
 
 
 
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