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    (Original post by Maria ZT)
    The CUS is for people interested in participating in and attending debates. CUCA is different. It's for people who share OPINIONS, who support a political party.
    What on earth is your point?


    He had no choice. And he is also surely intelligent enough to know that getting caught showing this kind of attitude in public is damaging to his organisation.

    Do you think that Coyne's class hatred hadn't previously reared its head?
    Well quite. As pointed out above, the fact that people will make that connection doesn't mean it's a logical one to make.

    I'm not going to get into discussions about 'class hatred'. You're just being silly now.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    That would seem appropriate imo. Its not a nothing, it shows quite a nasty streak and it brings much negative publicity to the uni. It would be weak if they left it at just a sorry. I didnt actually read the full DM article so you are ahead of me.
    Yes I agree there will be more than a small fine by the college/university.
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    (Original post by Maria ZT)
    They accepted someone with his attitudes.
    They accepted someone who paid a membership fee and signed a statement saying that he agreed with the party's aims.

    The CUCA didn't sign a statement to say that it agreed with his values and it is improbable that he dropped into casual conversation at Freshers' Fair or wherever "I really like rubbing the noses of the homeless into it"
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    (Original post by jneill)
    Yes I agree there will be more than a small fine by the college/university.
    It will be rustication or some form of suspended sentence. It wouldn't surprise me if he isn't presented with a choice between rustication and and the Cyrenians.
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    It will be rustication or some form of suspended sentence. It wouldn't surprise me if he isn't presented with a choice between rustication and and the Cyrenians.
    According to his mum he's volunteered at his local homeless scheme previously so the Cyrenians would be an "easy" option.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    According to his mum he's volunteered at his local homeless scheme previously so the Cyrenians would be an "easy" option.
    I thought he had volunteered in a shop along with Morningside ladies with Jean Brodie accents
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    I thought he had volunteered in a shop along with Morningside ladies with Jean Brodie accents
    Oh, the horror. Poor lad, I'm not surprised that experience has scarred him so badly.
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    I would just love to punch this guy straight in his smug face.
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    (Original post by Wōden)
    Chinless tosser


    He's presumably been called 'Tosser Coyne' his whole life. He anyway would have been at my school.



    A spokesman for CUCA has confirmed that the organisation as utterly appalled at Coyne's burning a portrait of Adam Smith.
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    (Original post by lopterton)
    As far as I am aware, no British "quality" newspaper has yet covered this story. Why not? It has only been the tabloids and the local Cambridge press.
    It's in the Mail.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ss-person.html

    Surely that's a 'quality' newspaper?
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    (Original post by cambio wechsel)
    A spokesman for CUCA has confirmed that the organisation as utterly appalled at Coyne's burning a portrait of Adam Smith.
    Lol, it's probably one of their initiation rites.
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    (Original post by limetang)
    What action can they take? It wasn't a crime
    Wrong. Do you seriously think it is lawful to abuse other people in the street?

    He could get six months in jail. Have a look at Section 4a of the Public Order Act 1986:

    "A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he (...) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour (...) thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress."

    "A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or both."

    If they do not wish to condone this man's behaviour, Pembroke College and Cambridge University should notify the police. There is prima facie evidence suggesting he committed a crime, and for that reason the police should investigate.

    A court could also issue an injunction against him under the Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014. That Acr defined "anti-social behaviour" as "conduct that has caused, or is likely to cause, harassment, alarm or distress to any person".

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    I'm not going to get into discussions about 'class hatred'.
    That's OK, but does anyone think he had some other inspiration than that?
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    (Original post by Jeremy T)
    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    I'm not going to get into discussions about 'class hatred'.
    That's OK, but does anyone think he had some other inspiration than that?
    6 pints of Adnam's would be my guess. He's likely more silly than bad and class hatred surely isn't what prompts drunken proles to pee on rough sleepers up and down the country every late Friday night.
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    (Original post by cambio wechsel)
    6 pints of Adnam's would be my guess. He's likely more silly than bad and class hatred surely isn't what prompts drunken proles to pee on rough sleepers up and down the country every late Friday night.
    Being drunk and being silly are no defence when someone is accused of abusive behaviour that has caused distress to another person. Nor is the fact that other people also commit crimes.

    I disagree with your second statement. The working class is not the underclass. Rough sleepers do not tend to pee on each other. They are viewed as being in a different class from those who can afford, for example, to get drunk in a pub.
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    What's sad is he'll probably be our PM in the future.
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    (Original post by 99_Problems)
    What's sad is he'll probably be our PM in the future.
    Then he could set fire to money in front of the whole country.
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    I kind of like this story overall - it reveals much about the Young Tory intellectual of today and their contemptuous attitudes towards those less lucky than themselves.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    That would seem appropriate imo. Its not a nothing, it shows quite a nasty streak and it brings much negative publicity to the uni. It would be weak if they left it at just a sorry. I didnt actually read the full DM article so you are ahead of me.
    I hope college send him down, but it's probably not going to happen. College don't like doing it, it's a very protracted process, and we sent someone down last year too (for something far more serious than this). I can't see it happening

    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Lol, it's probably one of their initiation rites.
    You joke, but allegedly one of the rites for joining the Bullingdon Club (Oxford) is burning a £50 note in front of a homeless person.

    (Original post by k_popper)
    Cambridge getting their own Bullingdon club?
    It's called the Pitt Club!

    (Original post by Maria ZT)
    It's not a smear. He was at the time of the action the CUCA's Communications and Publicity officer. In other words, he was an officer, a leading member, already in his first year. He is patently obviously a raving Tory.
    He is. He's never been popular around college - he turned up to fresher's week wearing a MAGA cap and proceeded to inform everyone about how great Trump is. Not a winning move at a liberal college at a liberal university. He should've applied to Oxford
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    Some recent press articles:

    ● "HUNDREDS of people have called for a Cambridge student to be booted from the prestigious university after he was filmed burning a £20 note in front of a homeless man."

    ● "Petition launched to 'Remove Ronald Coyne from Cambridge University' after setting light to £20 note in front of homeless man."

    ● "Petition launched to expel student from Cambridge University after he burned £20 note in front of homeless man"

    The master of Pembroke is Chris Smith, former Labour cabinet minister. (He took over from Richard Dearlove, former head of MI6.)

    Quite aside from the issue of whether Pembroke or the University should expel him, the law fellows at Pembroke will be fully aware that the alleged act constitutes an offence and that the police should be called in.

    It's worth saying that the majority of Cambridge students are NOT like Ronald Coyne and find his act utterly disgusting. I am quite sure that many will be signing the petition.
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    If it is not a crime then it should be
 
 
 
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