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    (Original post by the bear)
    "M'lud may i suggest you read this article on the interwebs : http://www.legalcheek.com/2017/02/ca...-homeless-man/ ?
    "The comments at the end are fine of examples of what is known in the lower reaches of our profession as bantz"
    I think the comment: "Good luck to Ronald in securing a Training Contract" sums it up'.
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    (Original post by Mordecai on High)
    Does eating a sandwich in front of a homeless person have the same effect?
    That is such a revealing comment. It illustrates the point that there are many rich scumbags in Britain who may not burn £20 notes in front of homeless people (perhaps they'd consider it a waste of their time), but who share the attitude expressed in Coyne's act that the poor are basically livestock and that any "distress" they feel at anything is not comparable to the distress or sadness that a rich Tory with lots of inherited wealth might feel if something happens that they don't like.
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    (Original post by the bear)
    "The comments at the end are fine of examples of what is known in the lower reaches of our profession as bantz"
    I particularly enjoyed...

    Burning a 20 pound note in front of a homeless person is akin to someone burning a chin in front of him.
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    (Original post by lopterton)
    That is such a disgusting comment. It illustrates the point that there are many rich scumbags in Britain who may not burn £20 notes in front of homeless people (perhaps they'd consider it a waste of their time), but who share the attitude expressed in Coyne's act that the poor are basically livestock and that any "distress" they feel at anything is not comparable to the distress or sadness that a rich Tory with lots of inherited wealth might feel if something happens that they don't like.
    There is no scope for civil discourse once emotion prevails over logic.
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    (Original post by the bear)
    "M'lud may i suggest you read this article on the interwebs : http://www.legalcheek.com/2017/02/ca...-homeless-man/ ?
    "The comments at the end are fine of examples of what is known in the lower reaches of our profession as bantz"
    Yes, nice to see Nicola on there
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    (Original post by cambio wechsel)
    I particularly enjoyed...
    i didn't quite understand that one

    probably a bit rude :dontknow:
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    (Original post by Reality Check)
    I think the comment: "Good luck to Ronald in securing a Training Contract" sums it up'.
    And as another pointed out - he'd be a shoe-in for a TC at MaccyD's.
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    (Original post by Mordecai on High)
    Jeez, emotional much.

    How do you know about the homeless person's "emotional trauma" (caused as a result of someone attempting to set some money alight in their view)? There is no video of the event available online (as far as I know) so how have you come to this conclusion?
    I'm sorry for being a human being and being able to sympathise with the victim of the crime. I would personally be emotionally distraught if a person burned a 20 pound note in front of me when I truly needed it. What kind of person thinks its funny to burn money when there are so many people in desperate need of it?

    (Original post by Mordecai on High)
    Does eating a sandwich in front of a homeless person have the same effect?
    I have been in that situation before. It was a horrifying site. I was walking through the middle of a huge group of people playing Pokemon Go. They were all drinking and eating and generally having a laugh. It was the middle of the night and there were homeless people trying to sleep unsuccessfully in the midst of the groups.

    Instead of joining the crowd and ignoring the homeless people, lying and sitting a mere couple of meters away, I bought them sandwiches and water and tried to talk to them. I do think that if you can afford it, you should try and buy homeless people food. Especially if you plan to eat somewhere they are resting.

    It's called not being a heartless b*****d.
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    A better approach, instead of public humiliation and destruction of his name, might have been for his director of studies or tutor to induce him into partaking in some community work - which would at least actually help someone.

    But let not this stop everyone from expressing their indignant outrage and hurling insults at the young man in question.
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    He should have used one of the new £5 notes... they burn merrily due to the fat content
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    (Original post by jneill)
    Cambridge University Conservative Association student. Singular.

    More here
    http://www.tcs.cam.ac.uk/news/003671...h-scandal.html

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    The standout comment from that page is: "...there's no place for that in the student branch of the conservative party. That sort of behaviour qualifies you immediately for the full conservative party!"
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    (Original post by the bear)
    He should have used one of the new £5 notes... they burn merrily due to the fat content
    I hear they are good for sorting one's coke out.
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    (Original post by Mordecai on High)
    A better approach, instead of public humiliation and destruction of his name, might have been for his director of studies or tutor to induce him into partaking in some community work - which would at least actually help someone.
    But in the real world that just looks like window-dressing. A hurried plan centred on damage limitation and for public consumption, put together in a smoke-filled room. The disingenuousness and 'stunt' nature of it would actually increase this child's suffering (not that I have a problem with that). You forget that people aren't entirely stupid.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    To Oxford.

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    It might be worth noting that Cambridge has a particularly high proportion of homeless people and it's often assumed they are outsiders attracted to Cambridge's affluence. But it's MUCH more complicated than that. 90% are locals.

    https://www.varsity.co.uk/features/11109

    (That piece also mentions the pretty significant number of student volunteers trying to help make a difference.)

    Edit to add: Cambridge has the 7th highest level of rough sleepers per 1,000 of the 326 Local Authorities in England (and that includes inner London). The latest rate is 0.80/1,000 - that's five times higher than the average outside London.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...nd-autumn-2016
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    (Original post by Mordecai on High)
    A better approach, instead of public humiliation and destruction of his name, might have been for his director of studies or tutor to induce him into partaking in some community work - which would at least actually help someone.
    Do you know that has not happened?
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    I hear they are good for sorting one's coke out.
    yes a handful of fivers and some twigs will make even damp coke burn merrily.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5KfWMs-VjFE/hqdefault.jpg
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    (Original post by Reality Check)
    But in the real world that just looks like window-dressing. A hurried plan centred on damage limitation and for public consumption, put together in a smoke-filled room. The disingenuousness and 'stunt' nature of it would actually increase this child's suffering (not that I have a problem with that). You forget that people aren't entirely stupid.
    He is an 18 year old student who made a stupid mistake deemed contrary to social standards whilst drunk, but did not break the law nor really cause harm to anyone - what do you want, blood?

    My contention is simply that the public recriminations and abuse against him will have far greater consequences than his act merited.
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    (Original post by Mimikyu)
    IT DID HARM SOMEONE.

    Or do you not consider the emotional trauma of the homeless person worth a man's career and future prospects? Because I sure as hell do. I think the emotional trauma of this man and the homeless community he is a part of is worth that and more!
    You can consider more than one thing at the same time.

    This kid has (quite rightly) suffered an extreme social penalty for this, and will be punished by his college too.

    People who seem to think it is desirable that this information will follow him around for the rest of time in addition are getting a little carried away.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    Do you know that has not happened?
    Do I know that has not happened, "instead of public humiliation and destruction of his name"? Yes, that seems clear...
 
 
 

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