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    (Original post by astutehirstute)
    In what way could saying someone will burn in hell for ever for apostasy NOT be threatening?
    I said wait till judgement day. Judgement day is when he will stand in front of Allah. And so then he'll know that Allah exists.
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    (Original post by SirMilkSheikh)
    I think you need to tone it down a bit on your extreme anti-religion sentiment. It makes you sound very bitter.
    I am an atheist and it isn't a bleak existence at all.

    But then my family and friendship groups are not all Muslims.

    I accept it is hard for you, but you need to realise it isn't bleak for us. It is liberating, as I said earlier.
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    (Original post by emerald7770)
    I said wait till judgement day. Judgement day is when he will stand in front of Allah. And so then he'll know that Allah exists.
    The semantic of your message is very clear based on the context. The literal words in and of themselves may mean something else in a different string of posts, but in this string of posts it clearly meant that on judgement day this person would face eternal damnation, or at the very least something negative along those lines.
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    (Original post by emerald7770)
    I said wait till judgement day. Judgement day is when he will stand in front of Allah. And so then he'll know that Allah exists.
    And what does Allah have to say about apostates?
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    (Original post by Jay Caz)
    The semantic of your message is very clear based on the context. The literal words in and of themselves may mean something else in a different string of posts, but in this string of posts it clearly meant that on judgement day this person would face eternal damnation, or at the very least something negative along those lines.
    It might be best to just ignore this "Emerald" person, as they know exactly what they were saying...
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    (Original post by astutehirstute)
    Isn't it also immensely liberating though? Not having to constantly try and please a celestial dictator in case you go to hell for all eternity?
    I guess it's liberating in the sense that you aren't bound to a suffocating set of rules. But at the same time I do feel like I lost a lot of values and the core of my identity. I feel less empathetic, more selfish, and a lot more insular to name a few.

    In bad times I could pray, read the Quran, hang out with my bros and believe that everything had some sort of a meaning. I thought I had a real purpose in life. Now I feel a bit nihilistic about everything.

    That doesn't mean I don't try to be happy. I'm working hard to create a good future for my self. Boxing, swimming, lifting weights and reading gives me a sense of contentment.
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    (Original post by astutehirstute)
    And what does Allah have to say about apostates?
    You deny the creator so it's said to be a very huge sin
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    (Original post by javedkid123)
    I don't know. I guess because I agreed with him at the time.
    Before leaving did you actually speak to a decent Imam.
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    (Original post by SirMilkSheikh)
    I feel less empathetic, more selfish
    Less empathetic...?
    I would say that not following a cult that endorses wife abuse, stoning and throwing people off buildings is a good leap in empathy..
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    (Original post by AshEntropy)
    It might be best to just ignore this "Emerald" person, as they know exactly what they were saying...
    Lol. You reply to posts that I didn't even mention you in so
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    Before leaving did you actually speak to a decent Imam.
    No
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    (Original post by emerald7770)
    You deny the creator so it's said to be a very huge sin
    Do you not think that maybe it's a "very huge sin" and 'punishable by death' just to scare people into staying in the cult religion?

    Oh sorry, I forgot that free-thinking is a big no no
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    (Original post by javedkid123)
    No
    Lol.
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    (Original post by SirMilkSheikh)
    I guess it's liberating in the sense that you aren't bound to a suffocating set of rules. But at the same time I do feel like I lost a lot of values and the core of my identity. I feel less empathetic, more selfish, and a lot more insular to name a few.

    In bad times I could pray, read the Quran, hang out with my bros and believe that everything had some sort of a meaning. I thought I had a real purpose in life. Now I feel a bit nihilistic about everything.

    That doesn't mean I don't try to be happy. I'm working hard to create a good future for my self. Boxing, swimming, lifting weights and reading gives me a sense of contentment.
    Hahaha. Bro this sounds just like me.Except I cant swim. I can't understand why all these "ex-muslims" act like Islam was prison and now they are in freedom.
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    (Original post by SirMilkSheikh)
    I guess it's liberating in the sense that you aren't bound to a suffocating set of rules. But at the same time I do feel like I lost a lot of values and the core of my identity. I feel less empathetic, more selfish, and a lot more insular to name a few.

    In bad times I could pray, read the Quran, hang out with my bros and believe that everything had some sort of a meaning. I thought I had a real purpose in life. Now I feel a bit nihilistic about everything.

    That doesn't mean I don't try to be happy. I'm working hard to create a good future for my self. Boxing, swimming, lifting weights and reading gives me a sense of contentment.
    Rushdie calls it "a God shaped hole."

    There are better ways to feel your life has purpose than lifting weights. Do charitable work to help others in your spare time.

    It is the most wonderful way of replacing your lost (synthetic) spirituality with something that is genuine, and not a lie. As religion is.

    Try it, you will be amazed how good it makes you feel.
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    (Original post by AshEntropy)
    Do you not think that maybe it's a "very huge sin" and 'punishable by death' just to scare people into staying in the cult religion?

    Oh sorry, I forgot that free-thinking is a big no no
    All I said was "you'll see on judgment day" and you're going way too deep into something that's not there. He'll see that Islam is real on that day because he will face Allah. You thinking that I meant hell Is absolutely crazy. Because I absolutely did not. It's not for me to decide if he goes hell. Sheesh... maybe I should've worded it better but you're just too much lol
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    (Original post by javedkid123)
    Hahaha. Bro this sounds just like me.Except I cant swim. I can't understand why all these "ex-muslims" act like Islam was prison and now they are in freedom.
    Wow I actually agree with you
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    (Original post by astutehirstute)
    Do charitable work to help others in your spare time. Try it, you will be amazed how good it makes you feel.
    This is very true - I love helping raising money for charities.

    Oh wait, remember, atheists have "no morals".. you know, doing nice things in the name of humanity doesn't count. You have to do nice things in order to be allowed into paradise, that is clearly not selfish.
 
 
 
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