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    (Original post by HAnwar)
    It was narrated that Ma’qil ibn Yassaar said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “For one of you to be stabbed in the head with an iron needle is better for him than that he should touch a woman who is not permissible for him.”

    Narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Kabeer, 486.

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    Well that's lovely isn't it.
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    lol I think that's ridiculous. Islam teaches us to be kind and respectful to others. There's nothing wrong with a hug
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    What even makes you think I'm Muslim? You're just sitting there assuming everything about me, quite embarrassing to be honest.
    Probably this

    Allah knows your intentions and He knows best.
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    (Original post by _gcx)
    Probably this
    Just because I say "God knows best" doesn't mean I am immediately a Muslim. I could say the same about Jesus and that wouldn't make me a Christian. You need to stop thinking you know everything about my life. Thanks doll.
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    Just because I say "God knows best" doesn't mean I am immediately a Muslim. I could say the same about Jesus and that wouldn't make me a Christian. You need to stop thinking you know everything about my life. Thanks doll.
    You said Allah specifically in an English sentence... surely you're Muslim?
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    (Original post by Sharif92)
    You said Allah specifically in an English sentence... surely you're Muslim?
    Wow man if you said Jesus then does that make you Christian?
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    Just because I say "God knows best" doesn't mean I am immediately a Muslim. I could say the same about Jesus and that wouldn't make me a Christian. You need to stop thinking you know everything about my life. Thanks doll.
    What? There's no need to be rude over me pointing out why he said what he said.

    The implication of "Allah knows best" is that the utterer believes in the existence of the aforementioned entity, which is corroborated by the capitalisation of He. That may have struck the poster, and led them to the assumption that you are Muslim. That is all.
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    Wow man if you said Jesus then does that make you Christian?
    If you said "Jesus knows best" then maybe?

    So are you Muslim or not?
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    (Original post by javedkid123)
    Touching the opposite sex who are not mahram, (related to you) = HARAM !

    better do your wudu after those hugs ....
    we know you're a non Muslim now but stop taking the p i s s
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    All these rules and regulations.Religion is slavery. Does it not occur to any Muslims that these rules are man-made,because men wanted to prevent their women from having sex? Honestly it's so obvious. It wasn't Allah saying these things.Just men. You see it today with fathers getting annoyed at the boyfriend's that their daughters bring home.Its the same thing. Just paranoid men trying to prevent women interacting with the opposite sex. It's fine to hug people.There are no rules.An imaginary dictator is not going to throw you in hellfire for hugging someone.And if he did such a person would be a tyrant and the best thing to do would be to start a rebellion against him, not bow down before him.
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    (Original post by Sharif92)
    You said Allah specifically in an English sentence... surely you're Muslim?
    Meh, people use the word Allah when speaking exclusively about the Islamic interpretation of the Abrahamic God. The word God is typically associated with Christianity and Judaism.
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    (Original post by YoloBaggins00)
    There's not much too it. It seems complicated, but it's actually quite simple.
    Allahu akhbar
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    (Original post by _gcx)
    What? There's no need to be rude over me pointing out why he said what he said.

    The implication of "Allah knows best" is that the utterer believes in the existence of the aforementioned entity, which is corroborated by the capitalisation of He. That may have struck the poster, and led them to the assumption that you are Muslim. That is all.
    Well I would corroborate the capitalisation of "He" if I replaced Allah with God. People should stop assuming and making an ass out of themselves, with all due respect.
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    (Original post by AshEntropy)
    Why people still follow these stupid, outdated pathetic "rules" is beyond me... why do they still do it?

    http://i.imgur.com/OuGIdlX.gif
    (Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
    Man, that's so sad that people are forbidden to give friendly hugs. I practically live off hugs.
    (Original post by _gcx)
    Well that's lovely isn't it.
    (Original post by Robby2312)
    All these rules and regulations.Religion is slavery. Does it not occur to any Muslims that these rules are man-made,because men wanted to prevent their women from having sex? Honestly it's so obvious. It wasn't Allah saying these things.Just men. You see it today with fathers getting annoyed at the boyfriend's that their daughters bring home.Its the same thing. Just paranoid men trying to prevent women interacting with the opposite sex. It's fine to hug people.There are no rules.An imaginary dictator is not going to throw you in hellfire for hugging someone.And if he did such a person would be a tyrant and the best thing to do would be to start a rebellion against him, not bow down before him.
    If it's of any interest, this (below) appears to be the consequences of the wider gender segregation advocated in Islam (You might not be surprised)...

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    By promoting such gender segregation in society, you significantly stifle social interaction, development of meaningful relationships and collaboration with the opposite sex, there by hindering potential progress and fermenting gender stereotypes and the presence of immature and inexperienced individuals unable to act maturely/coming across as socially awkward in front of the opposite sex.
    Practically criminalising social interaction with the opposite sex and promoting gender segregation in society, is what helps to ferment the presence of immature, inexperienced and sexually frustrated individuals - coming across as awkward/annoying to the opposite sex - as well as allowing for implicitly same sex relationships and pornography use to occur, not to forgot helping to ferment an increase in arrange marriages via cousin relationships, cue inbreeding and the resulting health problems/complications it can cause - map showing the high levels of cosanguinity in Muslim majority countries, likely a result of intergenerational inbreeding via cousin marriages, exacerbated by gender segregation.
    People in such societies are deprived of experiences of having normal, harmless and non-sexual encounters and relations with the opposite sex in daily life, unable to perform even a brief and harmless handshake or to even conversate with non-mahram individuals, particularly alone. They live in a constant state of sexual repression and sex segregation.

    This is what often seems to happen when enforcing gender segregation in such societies, it appears to result in perceiving almost every non-sexual encounter, sexual and creates people incapable of harmless interaction with the opposite gender, without acting all awkward, inexperienced and immature. No wonder then, you have such persistent and common cases of sexual harassment occurring in a number of Muslim majority countries/self proclaimed Islamic states, hosting Muslim men - behaving awkwardly and inappropriately, at the mere sight of a woman, regardless of whether the woman wears a hijab or not - she's often dehumanised and objectified as candy (with the Hijab serving as a wrapper - Take that wrapper off and you're liable for consumption by men/responsible for having such men harass you - essentially victim blame).

    “...Girls and boys are separated from primary school to the end of high school. They never have a chance to interact and when they suddenly do, they can’t just make normal conversation. It’s like any interaction is implicitly on sexual territory..."

    "How the hijab has made sexual harassment worse in Iran"

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/ira...P=share_btn_tw

    The other consequences of societal enforced gender segregation - an exacerbation of cousin marriages and inbreeding problems...

    “There’s a misconception that parents often force their daughters to marry within the family. Our segregated lifestyle often doesn’t allow for mixing of the sexes except within the family environment, so many times the only chance of falling in love is within the family, because you are completely closed off from others,” Saudi author Samar Fatany told Reuters.

    "In recent years Gulf countries have introduced mandatory premarital testing for genetic diseases including sickle cell anaemia, as well as infectious diseases such as hepatitis and HIV. In Qatar, counselling is required if a potential genetic problem is detected, though the couple are free to marry if they choose"

    http://www.dawn.com/news/707896/youn...usin-marriages

    "First cousin marriages in Pakistani communities leading to 'appalling' disabilities among children"

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/heal...-children.html
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    (Original post by ErniePicks)
    Only opposite genders are not allowed because the curse of islam makes you incapable of not having sexual urges when interacting with the opposite gender apparently, absolute nonesense.
    Sounds about right, the married women always act a little weird around the unmarried men.. if one of the guys is handing out sweets, they won't accept as it would be deemed inappropriate :/
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    lol my dad won't even let me shake hands with males, every time i have a job interview or something he tells me 'now remember, if its a guy interviewing you and he tries to shake your hand at the end just say no' - obviously i didn't listen and did it anyways, what the heck i ain't going to risk the chance of losing out on a job!

    but the thing i find annoying is the hypocrisy, he tells me and my sisters that we can't shake hands but he has seen my brothers openly hug their female friends and he never says anything to them. so i don't know if its an Islamic thing or a cultural thing, either way i don't like the unfairness
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    What even makes you think I'm Muslim? You're just sitting there assuming everything about me, quite embarrassing to be honest.
    so youre not muslim?
    when did u leave?
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    lol my dad won't even let me shake hands with males, every time i have a job interview or something he tells me 'now remember, if its a guy interviewing you and he tries to shake your hand at the end just say no' - obviously i didn't listen and did it anyways, what the heck i ain't going to risk the chance of losing out on a job!

    but the thing i find annoying is the hypocrisy, he tells me and my sisters that we can't shake hands but he has seen my brothers openly hug their female friends and he never says anything to them. so i don't know if its an Islamic thing or a cultural thing, either way i don't like the unfairness
    Men in my family are like that too sadly, one rule for the men another for the women

    I even have a cousin who got a girl pregnant outside of marriage, everyone just ignored the obvious and were desperate to see the baby. I was thinking to myself if my cousin was a girl she would either be dead or disowned by the family! SOooo much unfairness!
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    What even makes you think I'm Muslim? You're just sitting there assuming everything about me, quite embarrassing to be honest.
    But you and I both know you're muslim so making a correct assumption is fine.
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    (Original post by ScarlettDangerfield)
    Sounds about right, the married women always act a little weird around the unmarried men.. if one of the guys is handing out sweets, they won't accept as it would be deemed inappropriate :/
    What the hell are you spouting?
 
 
 
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