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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    He claims to have changed his spots. Let's just hope he isn't another Blair.

    In the meantime, yeah, he's too good looking for words. :teehee:
    I think that Tony Blair is exactly his inspiration.
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    Le Pen has just announced that she cannot possibly hope to defeat such a hunk (especially one called Emmanuel) and has therefore decided to save the French electorate the difficult decision of humiliating her and has stood aside to make way for the logical choice.

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    Go on Marie, you know it makes sense.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    It's also the result of open trading arrangements, lack of tariffs, the free unfettered flow of labour and goods, etc.

    Racism and xenophobic nationalism blind people to the logic.
    Why does being a slightly edgy right-winger who doesn't like Algerians mean she'll stop trading with other Europeans and wreck her own economy?
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    Everybody among the Republicains called to vote Macron.
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    (Original post by l'etranger)
    Why does being a slightly edgy right-winger who doesn't like Algerians mean she'll stop trading with other Europeans and wreck her own economy?
    Are you choosing to ignore her many past promises to withdraw France from the EU in favour of her recent more moderate sounding announcements as she approaches the real election? Why should we trust New Marie and not Slightly Less Recent Marie?
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Are you choosing to ignore her many past promises to withdraw France from the EU in favour of her recent more moderate sounding announcements as she approaches the real election? Why should we trust New Marie and not Slightly Less Recent Marie?
    Why will withdrawing from the EU mean that she'll stop trading with order nations, the EU is more than just a trading bloc which is exactly why right-wingers have such an aversion to it.
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    Nate Silver says there were no 'hidden' Le Pen voters missed by the pollsters.
    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/st...09799645736960

    That bodes well for the final run off, Macron looks set to win decisively based on past polling.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Le Pen has just announced that she cannot possibly hope to defeat such a hunk (especially one called Emmanuel) and has therefore decided to save the French electorate the difficult decision of humiliating her and has stood aside to make way for the logical choice.

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    Go on Marie, you know it makes sense.
    But Marine can be the first woman to break the glass ceiling!
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    (Original post by Luke7456)
    well they wont learn. Le Pen got through this time she was close last time she likely wont win. Then they will say its the defeat of the far right and smugly smile, without ever accepting that maybe there is a reason that the far right keeps gaining in the polls

    whether now or a decade from now the way things are going it is near an absolute certainty that we will get the far right elected in some European countries. Because the establishment just wont listen to peoples concerns about cultural erosion Immigration and the problems going on and call anyone racist and stupid who speaks out against it.

    People tell me I am stupid for saying I want to get out of Europe before its to late. Really you watch when Le Pen fails to win if she does, they will gloat and boast the entire media and establishment rather then ask :innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent: why did a far right candidate get so close to getting in? maybe we should ask why?

    But they never do so it is inevitable.
    There are way bigger issues than 'race' and 'immigration'. Far-rightists appeal is way too one dimensional. They may forever get 'close' but they will never hold power - not in France.

    Credit to Le Pen, she tried. In fact, she attracted many socialists and trade unionists from the left with her economic policies which has seen her land second place in the first round. Yes, that's what got her 'close' to getting in.
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    All the candidates uniting behind establishment candidate? Well where have we seen this before? hmmm
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    (Original post by Josb)
    But Marine can be the first woman to break the glass ceiling!
    Non establishment female politicians don't count according to libs.
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    (Original post by ThickSkin)
    There are way bigger issues than 'race' and 'immigration'. Far-rightists appeal is way too one dimensional. They may forever get 'close' but they will never hold power - not in France.

    Credit to Le Pen, she tried. In fact, she attracted many socialists and trade unionists from the left with her economic policies which has seen her land second place in the first round. Yes, that's what got her 'close' to getting in.
    Just wait I am telling you in Europe Far right Leaders will eventually get elected and its not the right wing to blame for it. Its the politically correct left wing arrogant establishment causing this.

    As an autistic Jew I dont fancy staying in the UK or anywhere else in Europe to eventually end up in a Pizza over.

    I will acknowledge the UK has it better then most of Europe but its only a matter of time before we have things as bad as France and Germany and then a bit more time before the reaction of voting in the far right happens.
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    (Original post by Luke7456)
    Just wait I am telling you in Europe Far right Leaders will eventually get elected and its not the right wing to blame for it. Its the politically correct left wing arrogant establishment causing this.

    As an autistic Jew I dont fancy staying in the UK or anywhere else in Europe to eventually end up in a Pizza over.

    I will acknowledge the UK has it better then most of Europe but its only a matter of time before we have things as bad as France and Germany and then a bit more time before the reaction of voting in the far right happens.
    I very much doubt it.

    Although if that ever comes to pass - I'll keep this post in mind.

    Lol, the only people to blame for the rise of the far right are the supporters of the far right.

    What do you mean by Pizza over?
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    (Original post by Luke7456)
    well they wont learn. Le Pen got through this time she was close last time she likely wont win. Then they will say its the defeat of the far right and smugly smile, without ever accepting that maybe there is a reason that the far right keeps gaining in the polls

    whether now or a decade from now the way things are going it is near an absolute certainty that we will get the far right elected in some European countries. Because the establishment just wont listen to peoples concerns about cultural erosion Immigration and the problems going on and call anyone racist and stupid who speaks out against it.

    People tell me I am stupid for saying I want to get out of Europe before its to late. Really you watch when Le Pen fails to win if she does, they will gloat and boast the entire media and establishment rather then ask :innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent: why did a far right candidate get so close to getting in? maybe we should ask why?

    But they never do so it is inevitable.
    I agree when she doesn't get in there will be the next election which she will grow support for.

    Until those concerns are dealt with they will grow


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    Only to be expected really

    You have a terrorist attack every couple of days in France of course more people will be inclined to vote for the side that might actually protect its people, no matter how far-right they come across
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    Can't see Le Pen winning the second round.

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    Whenever I saw the name 'Macron', this song immediately came to me:

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    (Original post by Luke7456)
    well they wont learn. Le Pen got through this time she was close last time she likely wont win. Then they will say its the defeat of the far right and smugly smile, without ever accepting that maybe there is a reason that the far right keeps gaining in the polls

    whether now or a decade from now the way things are going it is near an absolute certainty that we will get the far right elected in some European countries. Because the establishment just wont listen to peoples concerns about cultural erosion Immigration and the problems going on and call anyone racist and stupid who speaks out against it.

    People tell me I am stupid for saying I want to get out of Europe before its to late. Really you watch when Le Pen fails to win if she does, they will gloat and boast the entire media and establishment rather then ask :innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent: why did a far right candidate get so close to getting in? maybe we should ask why?

    But they never do so it is inevitable.
    The problem with Le Pen is that she supports a Frexit, without appearing very competent on the economy. The French do not like the EU; they don't want to strengthen it, but they don't want to leave the Euro. They are (rightly) worried that leaving the Euro will hit their savings.

    Although she has recently eased her stance on the Euro, her views are still largely rejected, whereas her fight against Islam is largely shared, even among the left. If she was less stubborn on the Euro, she would win the elections, but there would thus be little difference with the Républicains. She has dropped all the controversial positions of her father but this one; so it seems that she cannot drop it as well without losing the Front National's identity.

    The glass ceiling is here for her. How can a populist party win the election without losing its soul?
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    (Original post by _Morsey_)
    Whenever I saw the name 'Macron', this song immediately came to me:

    Strong lyrics.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)

    In the meantime, yeah, he's too good looking for words. :teehee:
    He's also married to his old school teacher.

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20170131/who...l-macrons-life
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    (Original post by Josb)
    The problem with Le Pen is that she supports a Frexit, without appearing very competent on the economy. The French do not like the EU; they don't want to strengthen it, but they don't want to leave the Euro. They are (rightly) worried that leaving the Euro will hit their savings.

    Although she has recently eased her stance on the Euro, her views are still largely rejected, whereas her fight against Islam is largely shared, even among the left. If she was less stubborn on the Euro, she would win the elections, but there would thus be little difference with the Républicains. She has dropped all the controversial positions of her father but this one; so it seems that she cannot drop it as well without losing the Front National's identity.

    The glass ceiling is here for her. How can a populist party win the election without losing its soul?
    and we get to escpae the EU.

    Take that frenchy XD

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