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    (Original post by sherlockfan)
    You haven't explained how im being agressive.
    Thanks though :borat: very useful. Fyi, do you want a medal for that is an agressive, confrontational type of question. Not to mention stupid.
    I already have, as have countless others. I'm not being aggressive, I'm trying to give advice which you have ignored. None of this stupid, this entire thread shows everyone far more about you, than it does anyone else.
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    Anymore arguing and this thread will be gone.
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    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    So you sent an email to vent at a random person who doesn't owe you anything about the fact that an organisation which doesn't owe you anything hasn't replied to you within what you personally (and unrealistically) consider a satisfactory time frame, you've decided to show off about it to strangers on the internet, and now you're totally ignoring what the bulk of the said strangers are saying to you.

    No, you seem very grown-up and well-adjusted.
    Really? You think im showing off about the fact that I didn't get a job?
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    Lol, pretty funny to read. If it made you happy then it was worth it, on to bigger and better things
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    (Original post by CatnipGlows)
    Lol, pretty funny to read. If it made you happy then it was worth it, on to bigger and better things
    I doubt they'll be bigger or better but thanks.
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    (Original post by doodle_333)
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    Your volunteering is pretty irrelevant to their responding,
    depends o n the organisation - some organisations with a mixed mode workforce have the volunteers o nthe same HR systems and treat a volunteer applying for a paid role as an internal applicant.

    they will have a standard system and they won't write a special reply just for you. The person hiring will still have never heard or met you. The only advantage you had was that if you wanted to follow up you could have gone through your co ordinator at your volunteering - but instead you chose to write a petulant and childish letter, making it clear you don't have the right attitude for any job and ensuring they will never hire you for this or any further role. Also you mentioned your sporadic attendance at your volunteering placement? Bad call, blaming it on the cold makes you look even worse.

    Also I just saw it's only been a month. Hiring processes have set backs all the time and often they won't let candidates know (especially if they don't have a new time frame). You may have still be in with a shot at this job... before your email.
    indeed , also given the date , i suspect some hiring managers will be wanting to delay the process just enough to save onboarding anyone this FY.
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    (Original post by sherlockfan)
    After a month of waiting and no answer despite follow up email, I sent them this:

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    I applied about a month ago for the position of _______ at ________. Having not heard anything back in weeks, I then followed up with an email, sent on the _______, politely inquiring what the situation was. I still haven't heard anything back. I didn't assume that I would be shortlisted, however, I made a lot of effort in my application and I was at least expecting a standard rejection email, as a matter of common courtesy.
    I have been a loyal Volunteer at [the same organization] for over a year, though I have been finding it difficult to come in lately due to the cold weather and lack of heating in the [place of volunteering]. However, I find it disheartening that my emails have so far gone completely ignored. I didn't want to appear to be too persistent and so I have avoided emailing you for several weeks. I understand that you probably received hundreds of applications, however it wouldn't have taken you much time to simply write a standard rejection letter to send to all the unsuccessful candidates. I was excited at the possibility of working as a ________ and I believe I could have been a good employee, but your lack of response has put me off. Should more vacancies arise in _______, I will not put myself through the trouble of applying again.

    Yours sincerely,

    x

    Too much?
    That's waaayyyy too much. The highlighted portions (rants & *****ing) need removing and rest restructured so it's just a polite enquiry about the app, nothing more.

    That fact is, there are more people wanting jobs that there are jobs. Employers get 1000s of apps for each post and they don't have time to personally reply to each one. If you have waited for a couple of weeks already, you can assume your app didn't pass and move on.

    *****ing at them will blow your chances of getting any job with them in the future. Nobody wants to work with someone who's already trouble b4 they've even got the job.

    If the sector you're applying for is niche, there's a good chance your details will be passed on to other employers and get you blacklisted. After all your app's got your real name & address.

    This is not to say you shouldn't feel frustrated and angry about your situation, but you should share this with friends and family instead.
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    (Original post by sherlockfan)
    I doubt they'll be bigger or better but thanks.
    This negative approach will get you nowhere.
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    (Original post by ThePricklyOne)
    That's waaayyyy too much. The highlighted portions (rants & *****ing) need removing and rest restructured so it's just a polite enquiry about the app, nothing more.

    That fact is, there are more people wanting jobs that there are jobs. Employers get 1000s of apps for each post and they don't have time to personally reply to each one. If you have waited for a couple of weeks already, you can assume your app didn't pass and move on.

    *****ing at them will blow your chances of getting any job with them in the future. Nobody wants to work with someone who's already trouble b4 they've even got the job.

    If the sector you're applying for is niche, there's a good chance your details will be passed on to other employers and get you blacklisted. After all your app's got your real name & address.

    This is not to say you shouldn't feel frustrated and angry about your situation, but you should share this with friends and family instead.
    Im not going to get blacklisted, what a ridiculous exaggeration. There's no way for them even to know what other companies in applying to.
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    (Original post by sameehaiqbal)
    This negative approach will get you nowhere.
    I don't get it, im just being realistic.
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    A no thanks letter or email, unless stated that only successful applicants will be contacted and by when, is just good manners. Volunteer or not. I might have phrased such a letter differently but it is a point to be made imho.
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    (Original post by sherlockfan)
    Im not going to get blacklisted, what a ridiculous exaggeration. There's no way for them even to know what other companies in applying to.
    You can only say that if you've got experience that says otherwise.

    I work in IT (got the job after getting into uni & joining TSR) and its a bit incestuous - we get employees who've worked for somewhere else and somewhere else gets our ex-employees. I went to a company Xmas party and a whole load of strange people turned up. They were ex-employees of my work place who joined other companies. And they talk about other people, some negatively. So if someone p*ssed my employers, their chances of getting jobs on those other companies whose reps socialise with them.....is very slim.

    If a candidate puts the other company A on their job app, my bosses can get the lowdown by ringing up their mate in company A. You saying this doesn't happen?
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    (Original post by sherlockfan)
    Im not going to get blacklisted, what a ridiculous exaggeration. There's no way for them even to know what other companies in applying to.
    You talk like we're still in the 90s

    You can be blacklisted so easy, I'm pretty sure the majority of companies have a blacklist filter for people like you.

    Give it some time and there will be applications you send that will automatically disappear to the recycling bin.
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    (Original post by Kravence)
    You talk like we're still in the 90s

    You can be blacklisted so easy, I'm pretty sure the majority of companies have a blacklist filter for people like you.

    Give it some time and there will be applications you send that will automatically disappear to the recycling bin.
    Its really easy to check & blacklist people, with massive databases/social media/ and Big Data platforms. The employer can find out what really happened during the gaps in someone's CV (grab their Linkin and person's online apps to other jobs), what's the real reason they left their job (finding emails/phones for prev employer, even if company closeddown/got taken over), and what they're really like (by mining their Facebook data), their health/illnesses (health data is now online), and well as every post/activity the person has done online and be able to link this to their real offline identity.

    Even in the no tech '80s construction firms were notorious for blacklist union members so they can't join other firms.
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    There's no blacklist for this kind of thing - but HR staff and hiring managers have long memories, and they also move between employers during their career and will remember you in the future.

    Edit: to be clear blacklisting is illegal
    http://www.hrmagazine.co.uk/article-...ng-regulations
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    (Original post by Kravence)
    You talk like we're still in the 90s

    You can be blacklisted so easy, I'm pretty sure the majority of companies have a blacklist filter for people like you.

    Give it some time and there will be applications you send that will automatically disappear to the recycling bin.
    Lol people like me. I didn't do anything terrible.
    I won't sink into a void of despair just yet. Thanks for your optimism though.
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    (Original post by Kravence)
    You talk like we're still in the 90s

    You can be blacklisted so easy, I'm pretty sure the majority of companies have a blacklist filter for people like you.

    Give it some time and there will be applications you send that will automatically disappear to the recycling bin.
    (Original post by ThePricklyOne)
    Its really easy to check & blacklist people, with massive databases/social media/ and Big Data platforms. The employer can find out what really happened during the gaps in someone's CV (grab their Linkin and person's online apps to other jobs), what's the real reason they left their job (finding emails/phones for prev employer, even if company closeddown/got taken over), and what they're really like (by mining their Facebook data), their health/illnesses (health data is now online), and well as every post/activity the person has done online and be able to link this to their real offline identity.

    Even in the no tech '80s construction firms were notorious for blacklist union members so they can't join other firms.
    There are actual criminals out there who have jobs. I think I'll be fine.
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    (Original post by sherlockfan)
    There are actual criminals out there who have jobs. I think I'll be fine.
    The crims have friends in high places.

    And they're smart enough not to p*ss them off.
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    (Original post by sherlockfan)
    There are actual criminals out there who have jobs. I think I'll be fine.
    lets see how far being arrogant gets you
 
 
 
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