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    Send them to a prison and make sure the prisoners know they're a pedophile
    Usually prisoners deal with pedophiles themselves
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    (Original post by ChickenMadness)
    Do you think homosexuality is a mental illness?
    It's a sexuality
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    (Original post by dmy15)
    It's a sexuality
    ah right so you just pick and choose what is a sexuality and what is a mental illness then.
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    (Original post by ChickenMadness)
    ah right so you just pick and choose what is a sexuality and what is a mental illness then.
    So do you think that homosexuality is a mental illness?
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    (Original post by Ladbants)
    Should they be shot dead?
    Just ignore their mental health issue and shoot them dead?

    Hey why not just round up a posse and hang em from the nearest tree.

    Luddites


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    (Original post by joe cooley)
    Indeed, compassion for child rapists is a sign of how civilised and forward looking an individual is.

    Have you ever considered a career in Rotherham social services?
    Well as Fyodor Dostoyevsky said you can tell a lot about a society based on how they treat prisoners, rather in this case it's about how a large portion of society would like to treat prisoners.

    Valuing human rights is forward thinking. Forgetting the idiotic notion that severe penalties deter crime is forward thinking. Preaching about bringing back a punishment which hasn't been used in over fifty years is quite the opposite of forward thinking


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    (Original post by Underscore__)
    Well as Fyodor Dostoyevsky said you can tell a lot about a society based on how they treat prisoners, rather in this case it's about how a large portion of society would like to treat prisoners.

    Valuing human rights is forward thinking. Forgetting the idiotic notion that severe penalties deter crime is forward thinking. Preaching about bringing back a punishment which hasn't been used in over fifty years is quite the opposite of forward thinking


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    Forward thinking isn't always right thinking.

    I value the human rights of the victims of crime more than the rights of criminals.

    While the death penalty may or may not deter crime, it is highly effective at preventing reoffending.

    Your compassion does you credit, there will be prisoners on isolation wings in prisons throughout the country happy to know you're looking out for them.
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    (Original post by joe cooley)
    Forward thinking isn't always right thinking.

    I value the human rights of the victims of crime more than the rights of criminals.
    By not executing criminals which human right of the victim are you infringing?

    (Original post by joe cooley)
    While the death penalty may or may not deter crime, it is highly effective at preventing reoffending.
    Well why not use it for all crimes then? Why even stop at crime, let's execute people who illegally park or trespass.

    (Original post by joe cooley)
    Your compassion does you credit, there will be prisoners on isolation wings in prisons throughout the country happy to know you're looking out for them.
    Always good to know you're appreciated.


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    I don't care about pedophiles per say. Anyone who is convicted of rape with irrefutable evidence deserves to be punished.

    Since this sort of practice (child trafficking) is meticulously concealed, I will happily support the death penalty to get rid of them from society.

    I rather rehabilitate people who tends to kill people citing mental illness. Example is that guy who beheaded and cannibalized a fellow passenger in the public bus. Granted I would be uncomfortable to stand anywhere near him but his mental illness was apparently legit. I will go against my gut feelings and respect the verdict.

    (Original post by serah.exe)
    Send them to a prison and make sure the prisoners know they're a pedophile
    Usually prisoners deal with pedophiles themselves
    This is lecherous and deplorable!
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    (Original post by Underscore__)
    By not executing criminals which human right of the victim are you infringing?

    Well why not use it for all crimes then? Why even stop at crime, let's execute people who illegally park or trespass.

    Always good to know you're appreciated.


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    http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/pa...ail/story.html

    I have no doubt that the sub-human named in the link above does appreciate your efforts on his behalf.

    I doubt the nine year old girl he sexually assaulted appreciates them to the same extent.
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    (Original post by TaintedLight)
    I don't care about pedophiles per say. Anyone who is convicted of rape with irrefutable evidence deserves to be punished.

    Since this sort of practice (child trafficking) is meticulously concealed, I will happily support the death penalty to get rid of them from society.

    I rather rehabilitate people who tends to kill people citing mental illness. Example is that guy who beheaded and cannibalized a fellow passenger in the public bus. Granted I would be uncomfortable to stand anywhere near him but his mental illness was apparently legit. I will go against my gut feelings and respect the verdict.



    This is lecherous and deplorable!
    I don't mean rape, usually prisoners end up killing pedophiles themselves
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    (Original post by joe cooley)
    http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/pa...ail/story.html

    I have no doubt that the sub-human named in the link above does appreciate your efforts on his behalf.

    I doubt the nine year old girl he sexually assaulted appreciates them to the same extent.
    So rather than answer my question you choose to try some emotional response which doesn't demonstrate anything, why is that all most people seem to be able to do on sexual offences?

    So I'll ask again, what human right of a victim is being infringed by not executing a convicted offender?


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    (Original post by serah.exe)
    I don't mean rape, usually prisoners end up killing pedophiles themselves
    Usually? It's very rare that convicted child sex offenders are murdered


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    Paedophiles who harm young vulnerable children should absolutely without a shadow of a doubt not be spared. Their actions will lead to lifelong psychological and perhaps physical harm on victims and we as a society have an irrefutable obligation to protect children and deter to the fullest extent this from recurring. The death penalty is the most effective way to do it and by the gravity of the crime that child molestation is, the most moral. I am disheartened and quite frankly sickened to see this poll showing a majority not in favour of the idea and would ask all those who voted against to consider how they would feel if it were their child, sibling, nephew or niece.
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    (Original post by Underscore__)
    Well as Fyodor Dostoyevsky said you can tell a lot about a society based on how they treat prisoners, rather in this case it's about how a large portion of society would like to treat prisoners.

    Valuing human rights is forward thinking. Forgetting the idiotic notion that severe penalties deter crime is forward thinking. Preaching about bringing back a punishment which hasn't been used in over fifty years is quite the opposite of forward thinking


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    You have an incredibly distorted and to be frank, pernicious, idea of forward thinking if you cannot see why executing somebody who sexually assaults a young vulnerable child isn't the most moral and effective sanction to exercise. You can tell more about a society based on their attitude towards child protection. Paedophiles must be deterred. Only a consistent and credible threat of death can do this.
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    (Original post by Sycatonne23)
    Paedophiles who harm young vulnerable children should absolutely without a shadow of a doubt not be spared. Their actions will lead to lifelong psychological and perhaps physical harm on victims and we as a society have an irrefutable obligation to protect children and deter to the fullest extent this from recurring. The death penalty is the most effective way to do it and by the gravity of the crime that child molestation is, the most moral. I am disheartened and quite frankly sickened to see this poll showing a majority not in favour of the idea and would ask all those who voted against to consider how they would feel if it were their child, sibling, nephew or niece.
    You invalidated everything you said when you described killing a defenceless human being as moral. As I've pointed out to numerous people on stupid debates like these the justice system isn't subjective, a judge doesn't decide a sentence by empathising with the victim

    (Original post by Sycatonne23)
    You have an incredibly distorted and to be frank, pernicious, idea of forward thinking if you cannot see why executing somebody who sexually assaults a young vulnerable child isn't the most moral and effective sanction to exercise. You can tell more about a society based on their attitude towards child protection. Paedophiles must be deterred. Only a consistent and credible threat of death can do this.
    Please find me one credible study conducted anywhere in the civilised world that concluded the death penalty is an effective deterrent.


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    (Original post by Underscore__)
    You invalidated everything you said when you described killing a defenceless human being as moral. As I've pointed out to numerous people on stupid debates like these the justice system isn't subjective, a judge doesn't decide a sentence by empathising with the victim



    Please find me one credible study conducted anywhere in the civilised world that concluded the death penalty is an effective deterrent.


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    That characterisation is completely misleading. Punishment for crimes in society are stratified in accordance to their severity. One factor which determines how severe such a crime is, is the impact upon the victim and indeed the type of victim. This is the sexual molestation of young vulnerable children we are talking about, so yes, sexual molestation of children is a crime which society should regard as especially egregious. It is totally moral to enforce the death of somebody who molests a child. The sanction hasn't appeared out of thin air, it is a response to a disgusting violation of a defenseless person's fundamental rights and hence the aggressor should lose his/her fundamental right to live.

    As with the deterrent effect of the death penalty have a look at the work of:

    Isaac Ehrlich (1975)
    Paul R Zimmerman Federal Trade Commission Economist (2003)
    Hashem Dezhbakhsh and Clemson U. Professor Shepherd (2003)

    All studies found that the death penalty does deter. Potential offenders consider the costs and benefits to a criminal transaction.
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    (Original post by Underscore__)
    So rather than answer my question you choose to try some emotional response which doesn't demonstrate anything, why is that all most people seem to be able to do on sexual offences?

    So I'll ask again, what human right of a victim is being infringed by not executing a convicted offender?


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    Their right to justice.

    Not that i expect you to worry about such things, you get more virtue signalling milage out of exhibiting your deep compassion for a child molester.

    Yes?
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    (Original post by Sycatonne23)
    That characterisation is completely misleading. Punishment for crimes in society are stratified in accordance to their severity. One factor which determines how severe such a crime is, is the impact upon the victim and indeed the type of victim. This is the sexual molestation of young vulnerable children we are talking about, so yes, sexual molestation of children is a crime which society should regard as especially egregious. It is totally moral to enforce the death of somebody who molests a child. The sanction hasn't appeared out of thin air, it is a response to a disgusting violation of a defenseless person's fundamental rights and hence the aggressor should lose his/her fundamental right to live.
    So you think it's moral to kill a defenceless human being, that says a lot about a person.

    (Original post by Sycatonne23)
    As with the deterrent effect of the death penalty have a look at the work of:

    Isaac Ehrlich (1975)
    Paul R Zimmerman Federal Trade Commission Economist (2003)
    Hashem Dezhbakhsh and Clemson U. Professor Shepherd (2003)

    All studies found that the death penalty does deter. Potential offenders consider the costs and benefits to a criminal transaction.
    So post me a link to one of these, just saying names and a year isn't citing a study, it's not even a full citation.

    (Original post by joe cooley)
    Their right to justice.

    Not that i expect you to worry about such things, you get more virtue signalling milage out of exhibiting your deep compassion for a child molester.

    Yes?
    Sorry which article of the ECHR is this? I'm not familiar with it.


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    (Original post by Underscore__)
    So you think it's moral to kill a defenceless human being, that says a lot about a person.



    So post me a link to one of these, just saying names and a year isn't citing a study, it's not even a full citation.



    Sorry which article of the ECHR is this? I'm not familiar with it.


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    No, i think it is moral to kill the kind of subhuman who would rape a child.

    The ECHR?

    Your faith in that institution explains why you're currently on line defending the rights of child rapists.
 
 
 
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