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    "...So much so that I've recognised the true cause of them starving to death rather than being misled by racists, so I advocate a system based on common ownership, equality, democracy and needs satisfaction. A new and better order of society. Not a handful of the rich, but all the working people must enjoy the fruits of their common labour."
    muh racism

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    muh racism

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    Exactly "muh public services" "muh British jobs for British workers"

    Oh wait, let's have a look see here:
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    lmao
    Economic Leftism; the ultimate cause of authoritarian brutality:

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    funny political compass 2.jpg

    Fairly accurate.
    Well I do like newspapers...
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    Economic Leftism; the ultimate cause of authoritarian brutality:

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    He said, using the internet built through public spending.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Economic Leftism; the ultimate cause of authoritarian brutality:
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    You forgot: Capitalism - Others take the fruits of your labour from you and pay you a fraction of its worth. If you resist, you starve. Unless you were born into a position of power, where you live off the fruits of other's labour.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    He said, using the internet built through public spending.
    Reductio ad absurdum: I have no alternative internet to use, if there was a better private free market option I'd pay for that.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    You forgot: Capitalism - Others take the fruits of your labour from you and pay you a fraction of its worth. If you resist, you starve. Unless you were born into a position of power, where you live off the fruits of other's labour.
    Uhm, no, read up on the marginalist theory of value, the labour theory of value is wrong.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Uhm, no, read up on the marginalist theory of value, the labour theory of value is wrong.
    "Uhm, no, read up on what a theory means."
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Reductio ad absurdum: I have no alternative internet to use, if there was a better private free market option I'd pay for that.
    You almost definitely couldn't afford it. I also don't want to be accused of reduction to absurdity by the guy who just called the idea of the state evil.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Reductio ad absurdum: I have no alternative internet to use, if there was a better private free market option I'd pay for that.
    Why is reductio ad absurdum bad?
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Why is reductio ad absurdum bad?
    It's a logical fallacy and not a proper counter-argument.

    Just like that groan worthy "muh roads" argument anti-libertarians use, or the "Muh human nature" used by amateur anti-communists
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Why is reductio ad absurdum bad?
    I thought it was an ad hominem attack tbh.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    "Uhm, no, read up on what a theory means."
    I'd expect an expert on the failures of capitalism like yourself to be well versed in the counter-arguments to your one socio-economic theory...

    Funny that an "ignorant amateur" (your words), is more well versed in economic theories than the enlightened Marxist expert.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    You almost definitely couldn't afford it. I also don't want to be accused of reduction to absurdity by the guy who just called the idea of the state evil.
    They would have to set reasonable prices or they'd go bankrupt, social contracts work both ways.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    I'd expect an expert on the failures of capitalism like yourself to be well versed in the counter-arguments to your one socio-economic theory...

    Funny that an "ignorant amateur" (your words), is more well versed in economic theories than the enlightened Marxist expert.
    I'm not going to start a whole debate with you on marginalist-labour value theories when you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

    You're not well-versed, nor have I claimed to be a Marxist expert.
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    So this is what the House looks like.
    Unfortunately, Labour are in the "These people have no ****ing idea whatsoever" box.
    And the Socialists are in "Party dropouts who read Jacobin".
    UKIP just made it boring. They should be in the "Pinochet and other Sith Lords" box for sure.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    It's a logical fallacy and not a proper counter-argument.

    Just like that groan worthy "muh roads" argument anti-libertarians use, or the "Muh human nature" used by amateur anti-communists
    A populist claim there, used correctly it is legitimate in formal logic.
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    (Original post by Connor27)
    Uhm, no, read up on the marginalist theory of value, the labour theory of value is wrong.
    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    I'm not going to start a whole debate with you on marginalist-labour value theories when you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

    You're not well-versed, nor have I claimed to be a Marxist expert.
    Connor is right, the Marxian labour theory of value is widely dismissed because of its flaws, it needed to use the transformation problem to try to be a sensible theory but the problems still exist.
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    lmao
    Good game.
 
 
 
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