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The pizzagate theory really isn't as absurd as most people think

I'm writing this as someone who isn't from the USA, who doesn't support Hillary nor Trump. I have no political game to play. I realise that the pizzagate theory may have been mainly fostered by Trump supporters and the alt-right, but this is ad-hominem. I'm a liberal, and I always thought the pizzagate theory was nonsense. But then I spent a couple of days looking through all of the elements that support the theory. I do not believe in any other conspiracy theories. I don't like most conspiracy theory culture. But I can honestly say that I believe that pizzagate has some truth to it. Wikipedia and Snopes claim it is debunked, but I have found nothing that truly refutes the most important elements. Newspapers have claimed it is "fake news" but no fake news has been reported, and as you will see when reading this post, it is all there for you to see. No middle man is required to twist things. It's simply there for you to see for yourself.

Now, this isn't to say that some elements of pizzagate, some theories intended to support or expand the overriding theory, aren’t completely absurd. For example, the theory that John Podesta abducted Madeleine McCann is obviously ridiculous. And the links people make with pizzagate and some great overriding Illuminati power are similarly brainless, to my mind anyway. But it's inevitable that any conspiracy theory is going to attract loonies who will bring their poor critical thinking abilities to the fore.

But now, please just read through this and forget about political agendas. It's important that you just take things as they are.

Firstly, let's look at other evidence of similar cases.

After Jimmy Savile's death, hundreds of victims came forward to claim that he had abused them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile

Savile was a popular radio DJ and television presenter, widely regarded as a national treasure, who was even friendly with the British royals. When he was alive, there were people in British media knew what Savile was doing, but there was clearly enough pressure coming from some kind of authority to stop them from speaking out about it. Here is an interview with Jonny Rotten, the lead singer of The Sex Pistols, where he discusses an interview from 1978 where he alluded to Savile's transgressions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lycFr8bdGpo

After the Savile case, the police investigation known as "Operation Yewtree" was formed. So far it has resulted in six other celebrities being sentenced to prison time for sex offences.

Now let us also look at the Marc Dutroux case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux

This was a case in Belgium where a man named Marc Dutroux was convicted of kidnapping, torturing and sexually abusing six girls. 275,000 Belgians protested because of how poorly the authorities acted. http://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/21/wo...x-scandal.html

Here is an excerpt from the Dutroux Wikipedia page:

"Authorities were criticised for various aspects of the case. Several incidents suggest that despite several warnings, the authorities did not properly follow up on Dutroux's intentions. Dutroux had offered money to a police informant to provide him with girls and told him that he was constructing a cell in his basement. His mother also wrote a second letter to the police, claiming that he held girls captive in his houses. Dutroux was actually under police camera surveillance the night he kidnapped Marchal and Lambrecks; however, the police had only programmed the camera to operate during the daylight hours of 8 a.m. to 6 p.m.

Perhaps most notably, the police search of Dutroux's house on 13 December 1995 and again six days later in relation to his car theft charge came under harshest scrutiny. During this time, Julie Lejeune and Mélissa Russo were still alive in the basement dungeon, but the police failed to discover them. Since the search was unrelated to kidnapping charges, police searching the house had no dogs or specialised equipment that might have discovered the girls' presence, and in an otherwise decrepit and dirty basement, they failed to recognize the significance of the freshly plastered and painted wall that concealed the dungeon. While in the basement, a locksmith who was accompanying the police said he heard children's cries coming from inside the house, but was overruled by the police, who concluded the cries must have come from the street outside. This was especially remarkable since the country was at that time in the midst of a nationwide search for missing children.

Several videotapes were also seized from the house that showed Dutroux constructing the secret entrance and the dungeon where the girls were then held. The tapes were never viewed by the police, who later claimed this was because they did not have a videotape player"

"Throughout the trial, Dutroux continued to insist that he was part of a Europe-wide paedophile ring with accomplices among police officers, businessmen, doctors, and even high-level Belgian politicians."

This Guardian article details the experiences of one of the victims: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...featuresreview

“She told investigators how from the age of 12 she'd been 'given' by her parents to a family friend, Tony Van den Bogaert, who'd had a key to their house. He would collect her from school and take her away for weekends to sex parties where she was 'given' to other men and secretly filmed having sex with them. 'It was highly organised,' she says. 'Big business. Blackmail. There was a lot of money involved.'

In 1996 she related her experiences to a police team under carefully filmed and supervised conditions. She described certain regular clients including judges, one of the country's most powerful politicians (now dead) and a prominent banker. She gave the police the names by which she knew these men, detailed the houses, apartments and districts where she'd been taken with other children to entertain the guests.

This 'entertainment' was not just sex, she told the police. It involved sadism, torture and even murder, and again she described the places, the victims and the ways they were killed. One of the regular organisers of these parties, she claimed, was the man she knew as 'Mich', Jean Michel Nihoul, 'a very cruel man. He abused children in a very sadistic way', she said. Also there, she said, was the young Dutroux.”

So, we know this kind of stuff can go on, and it seems that there have been people in certain government organisations in Occidental, developed countries who have been willing to cover it up. Given this information, I hope you can begin to see how the pizzagate theory isn’t too absurd. But this is still whataboutery. Let’s get to the meat of it.

If you’re not quite sure what the pizzagate theory is, I recommend you watch this clip from a TV show to give you a vague idea:
[video="youtube;hnLqQbHZbFc"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnLqQbHZbFc[/video]

Now, read this: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611

“(Updated 1/13/2017)

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND EXPLANATION OF PIZZAGATE

Introduction

This investigation was sparked by strange emails leaked from John Podesta's email account, some of which make bizarre references to food. One such email discussed a handkerchief Podesta left behind at a friend's house. The handkerchief was described as having a "map that seems pizza-related." Given the common pedophile code phrase "cheese pizza" (https://archive.is/QsLdx), some readers suspected "pizza-related" may have been a reference to child sex abuse. The suspected use of "pizza" as a codeword led us to investigate a pizza restaurant mentioned in one of Podesta's emails, namely Comet Pizza and Ping Pong, owned by an associate of the Podestas. We have found considerable evidence that Comet is a front for child sex trafficking.

- Exhibit A: Evidence Pertaining to Comet Pizza and Ping Pong

As demonstrated in Exhibit D, we have connected owner James Alefantis (http://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/medi...f3880f9901c7d1 e0c41d57b33d6f4d35e616946) to accused child trafficker Laura Silsby, who was got off the hook by a fake attorney who was later convicted of sex-trafficking, and who was wanted for sex trafficking in four countries. Alefantis had a statue of Antinous (https://archive.is/J3lUH) as his Instagram profile picture. Antinous was the boy lover of a Roman Emperor, and is considered a symbol of pederasty (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty). On his "jimmycomet" Instagram account, Alefantis posted a baby picture (http://archive.is/DLjk7) and made a clear pedophile reference (http://archive.is/uvDYq). The brother of Jeffrey B. Smith ("werkinonmahnightcheese", who commented on several of the suspect Instagram photos, referred to a friend as "my favorite pedo" (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7Ig).

Listed first on Comet's website under "friends of comet" (http://archive.is/Yogml) is the band Heavy Breathing (http://archive.is/hMfkx), which performs at Comet. Heavy Breathing leader "Majestic Ape" wears a ski mask and sunglasses, and uses a voice modulator, hiding his or her identity. Majestic Ape joked about pedophile Jared Fogle and said "we all have our preferences, hee hee hee". (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlhB...o&feature=yout u.be&t=1m23s), bringing laughter from the audience. In another video, Majestic Ape talks about killing a baby (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9itWsqzFMVo). Majestic Ape also referenced pedophilia in a caption on a music video (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7IO). Heavy Breathing's website features art involving both children and sex (http://archive.is/hMfkx).

An employee of Comet posted many images portraying pizza in a sexual way. (http://archive.is/mKH6M), further fueling our suspicion they are using "pizza" as it is commonly used by pedophiles: a symbol and codeword for sex with minors. Another example (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7IZ). An admitted pedophile on a dark-web pedophile forum acknowledged a trend of pedophiles using pizza parlors as fronts for child sex trafficking (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7IU). Convicted sex offender Robert L. Robinson (http://sor.informe.org/cgi-bin/sor/step3.pl?id=4683), who raped a 13-year-old girl (http://sor.informe.org/cgi-bin/sor/step5.pl?id=4683), had a Flikr account (https://archive.li/iJLY1) with five pages of "favorite" pictures, half of which featured young girls, and the other half of which featured... Comet Pizza and Ping Pong.

Please examine these symbols (http://archive.is/vNEnH) designated by the FBI as pedophile symbols. Besta Pizza, which is three doors down (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7IF) from Comet, had a logo (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7Is) that is a near-exact match of the boylover symbol (http://archive.is/PUWFe). Another nearby business, Terasol, had a girl-lover symbol (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7I7) on their website. No direct connection to Besta or Terasol has yet been uncovered, but the logos seem quite a coincidence. With that in mind, take a look at Comet's logo. It also resembles a pedophile symbol (http://archive.is/vNEnH).

General creepiness seems to surround Comet. Alefantis posted a photo of a child taped to a ping pong table (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/pb0R). He also posted a photo of a walk-in cooler (http://archive.is/oRj63), to which he commented "#murder" and to which Jeffrey B. Smith commented "#killroom." Alefantis also posted a picture of Tony Podesta’s sculpture modeled after a Dahmer victim (https://archive.is/LIHTn). Comet had a painting of a man playing ping pong, to which graffiti had been added to show him ejaculating on the table and wearing a Satanic upside-down cross (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V8Li). Comet had murals of people with heads cut off (http://archive.is/uOy6R), and the artist who painted the murals also painted adults decapitating children (http://archive.is/UOnP9).

Pizzagate researcher Ryan O'Neal posted a YouTube video in which he claims James Alefantis threatened his life and the lives of his family (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQxYQ49p0U&t=3s) to bully O'Neal into removing a video about Alefantis' "Pegasus Museum" from YouTube. O'Neal showed text messages, which appear to be from Alefantis, bullying him into calling Alefantis. O'Neal claims that when he called, Alefantis immediately began screaming at him and threatening him and his family. O'Neal filed a police report over the alleged threats (http://p2c.websterpd.com/QuickResult...?case=17000111) .

- Exhibit B: Evidence Pertaining to John and Tony Podesta

John Podesta is the former Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton, and was the Chair of Hillary Clinton's presidental campaign. Tony Podesta runs The Podesta Group, a major lobbying firm.
The Podestas are associates of James Alefantis, as detailed in Exhibit C. They are also good friends (http://archive.is/8F945) with known and admitted pedophile, former Republican congressman Dennis Hastert (https://archive.is/VJ9Gz). John Podesta received en email suggesting that Hastert should vanish to an undisclosed Japanese island (http://archive.is/lHCPi) after the news of Hastert's pedophilia broke.

Now, let's discuss the specific emails that led to our investigation of Comet. John Podesta received an email from Tam Luzzatto saying that children of ages 11, 9, and 7 will be "in the pool for further entertainment" and stating that the children "will definitely be in that pool" (http://archive.is/lgD3l).

In another email, Podesta was told that he left behind a black-and-white handkerchief "with a map that seems pizza-related" (http://archive.is/JJC1o). A handkerchief with a "pizza-related" map? What the...? Note that in the gay community, handkerchiefs are sometimes used as code for sexual preferences (http://archive.is/MfPCc). It is possible that others have adopted this code as well. Black symbolizes bdsm/domination in this code; some have suggested that white could symbolize pedophilia, due to the association of white with innocence and purity. Furthermore, as discussed previously, "cheese pizza" is a common code phrase meaning "child pornography," so "pizza" could be an adaptation of that.

In another suspiciously cryptic email, a friend complained that Podesta had changed "strategies that have long been in place" and remarked that Podesta sent him "cheese" instead of "pasta," asking if Podesta thought he would do better "playing dominoes on cheese than on pasta" (http://archive.is/JBft7). Why would Podesta regularly send this person pasta, why would there need to be a strategy long in place for doing so, and who plays dominoes on cheese or pasta?

Tony Podesta sent John Podesta an email titled "Last night was fun." The email read simply "still in the torture chamber" (http://archive.is/9PcWi). One could argue this could have been a metaphor, but consider it in light of the fact that Tony Podesta collects art by Biljana Djurdjevic, which references or depicts extreme physical and sexual abuse of children (http://archive.is/xyW2L). He also collects photos of naked teenagers (https://archive.fo/vddrO), and he has a taste for art portraying cannibalism and murder, such as his headless Arch of Hysteria statue (http://archive.is/9aq42) which seems to reproduce one of Jeffrey Dahmer's decapitated victims (http://archive.is/tAsqV). John Podesta also likes artwork portraying cannibalism, such as this piece is in his office (http://archive.is/LEKyL).

- Exhibit C: Alefantis' Connections to the Podestas and Clintons

James Alefantis himself was deemed one of the 50 most powerful people of Washington D.C (https://archive.is/f7tAX/56dbfa7c950...d2e0aad852.png) by GQ magazine.
He was the romantic partner (https://archive.is/WoJJY)of David Brock (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7lQ). David Brock is the Chief of Media Matters (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...ettlement.html), a major instrument of the Democratic Party. Brock is also the founder of Correct the Record, a Super PAC that supported the Clinton campaign.

James Alefantis is seen with Tony Podesta here (http://archive.is/FvXp0) andhere (http://archive.is/QOZgU). An email from Alefantis to Tony Podesta, which Tony Podesta forwarded to John Podesta (https://archive.is/1mlFy) had an attached file which was an image of Hillary’s Logo with a pizza slice in it, above a Comet logo (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7k5). Alefantis also made desserts for a Clinton campaign event (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7kk). (Notice another photo with Alefantis and Tony Podesta together, and that Alefantis visited the White House on at least five occasions.) Clinton personally thanked Alefantis (http://archive.is/vX6AT) for cooking for one of her fundraisers. Comet received payments of over $20k from American Bridge 21st Century PAC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...e_21st_Century), a primary funder of which is billionaire Clinton-backer George Soros. Payments can be seen here (http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?14960793887), here (http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?13941306270), and here (http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?13940775420).

- Exhibit D: Additional Evidence Implicating the Clintons Specifically

NOTE: All previously cited evidence implicates the Clintons, as John Podesta has been their right-hand man, and as James Alefantis is closely associated with the Clinton Campaign and major Democratic Party leaders.

Bill Clinton is known to have flown multiple times on the "Lolita Express" (https://archive.is/B6nnX) of disgraced billionaire pedophile Jeffery Epstein (https://archive.is/vVTYC) to visit Epstein's private "pedophile island," Little St. James. Hillary Clinton also joined him on occasion. Bill Clinton even ditched the Secret Service to make these trips (https://archive.is/5o7Zl) Interestingly, Jeffrey Epstein claimed to be a co-founder of the Clinton Foundation (https://archive.is/PCN83).

Hillary Clinton was sent email updates (https://archive.is/QBV6S) on the prosecution of Laura Silsby, who was caught trafficking children in Haiti (https://archive.is/soUUb). Laura Silsby was got off the hook (https://archive.is/FQSGK) by Jorge Puello, who was later convicted of sex trafficking (http://archive.is/81dRC), and was wanted on charges of sex trafficking (http://archive.is/Natq5#selection-1987.0-1987.189) in four countries. Additional source (https://archive.is/ZMN5U). Izette Folger, a close friend of James Alefantis (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V83t), gave a statement in support of Silsby. Folger is the daughter of Michael Maccoby (https://web.archive.org/web/20070121...oby/MMCV.shtml), who gave an emphatic and lengthy statement of support for Comet (https://sites.google.com/site/mitalg...art2-COMET.mp3) during a contentious neighborhood commission meeting (https://archive.fo/Blp2o). The relevant portion of the audio file starts at 31:40. Maccoby coaches leaders of Nuestros Pequeños Hermanos (https://archive.fo/aR7LT), or NPH, a large organization that runs orphanages all over the world. His son, Max Maccoby, is on the Boards of Directors of an NPH orphanage called Friends of the Orphans (https://archive.fo/pJEJh), which is one of 760 orphanages operating in Haiti (https://archive.fo/icdzE), and happens to be the orphanage from which Silsby was caught trafficking children (https://archive.fo/ox7Fa#selection-423.0-425.82).

Frank Giustra (https://www.clintonfoundation.org/ab...s#FrankGiustra) owner of the Radcliffe Foundation is on the board of directors for the Clinton Foundation, and is a major Clinton Foundation donor. The logo of Elpida Home (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7kw), a refugee center founded by the Radcliffe Foundation, happens to be almost identical to the pedophile boylover symbol (http://archive.is/PUWFe).

Now we must reveal a spark, before Podesta's strange emails, that fueled this investigation.

A purported FBI leaker posted claims on 4chan's "/pol/," an anonymous political forum. Admittedly, the forum he chose is not exactly reputable. However, this fits with his claim that he wanted to surround himself with noise in order to prevent his FBI superiors from detecting him, and it fits because he knew many in that anti-Clinton audience would take him seriously and investigate, employing what the forum's users call "weaponized autism." The alleged leaker's central claim was that the NYPD and FBI had discovered immensely scandalous information about Hillary Clinton through Anthony Weiner's laptop, but the FBI is not yet acting on the information for reasons we will not discuss here. For our purposes, the relevant allegation is this: The purported leaker alleged that the Clinton Foundation is a front for human trafficking, including child sex trafficking. He told us, "Dig deep and you will find it. It's sickening." Well, we've been digging, and we seem to be finding it. Summaries of the leaker's claims can be found here: Part 1 (https://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2...eaks-part-1/); Part 2 (https://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2...eaks-part-2/); Part 3 (https://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2...speaks-part-3/).

- Exhibit E: Media Coverup Efforts

The same establishment elites who try to control politics also control the mainstream media (this includes Fox News). They do not want corruption of this magnitude to be exposed. As soon as word of Pizzagate went viral, the mainstream media began a coverup campaign. They began denouncing the allegations as "false," "hoax," and "fake news," without directly addressing the evidence.

Prima facie, the media have no basis for labeling an *ongoing investigation*, which is entirely rooted in real evidence, as "fake news." In fact, Pizzagate is not an allegation of a specific, individual crime (e.g. the abuse of a specific child on a specific day and time). Rather, it is an *investigation* into the possibility of certain individuals being involved in certain kinds of criminal activity. Therefore, labeling Pizzagate "false/hoax/fake" is patently absurd and dishonest, especially considering the media's refusal to address the evidence directly.

The Washington D.C. Metro Police Department claimed it investigated Pizzagate and concluded the allegations are false. However, a response to an FOIA request demonstrated that no investigation was conducted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omlQHWrgmd4). Therefore, the position of the DC Metro Police must be based on (1) the dishonest media coverage of Pizzagate, (2) willful complicity in the coverup, or (3) some combination of both.

Reddit CEO Steve Huffman banned the Pizzagate research community from Reddit on bogus grounds, accusing us of engaging in a "witch hunt," even though we only used publicly-available information, and never called for vigilantism or harrassment of any kind. While we understand Reddit may have had legitimate concerns of legal action, there is plenty of reason and evidence to believe the decision was politically motivated.

Bot accounts denying Pizzagate (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Czii-xIVIAAhqPn.jpg) have been discovered on Twitter (https://i.imgsafe.org/06333e284f.png). Twitter has also been suspending accounts of users who discuss Pizzagate (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7ko), and censoring #Pizzagate from its list of most tweeted hashtags (http://www.ultraimg.com/image/V7k1). Facebook has plans to censor what it deems "fake news."

- Exhibit F: Further Supporting Evidence and Historical Precedents

An Immigration and Customs Enforcement sting operation called "Project Flicker" caught 5,200 people purchasing child pornography (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7n3...ature=youtu.be). Of these, at least 264 were Pentagon employees or Pentagon contractors. Some of them had security clearances at the top-secret level or higher (http://archive.is/Yyj6o).

There was a 1994 Discovery Channel Documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY-F5JoHoho) that covered pedophilia rampant in our government, but it was banned and never aired.

Washington Post reported that sex slavery is a big problem in D.C. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.c80f9d44978a)

The largest pedophile ring ever discovered was exposed by the FBI (https://truthkings.com/days-recoveri...fficking-raid/) coincidentally after Anthony Weiner's laptop was taken.

Another pedophile ring exposed in Norway. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7432441.html)

Some historical precedents include Margaret Thatcher's coverup of VIP pedophilia in the UK (http://archive.is/Awsjh), the Dutroux Affair of Belgium (http://archive.is/06ugh) and the Savile scandal in the UK (http://archive.is/gEdRB).”


Now, perhaps, you have begun to find the theory at least worthy of your attention. Admittedly, some of it is very tenuous, and some of it is vague. But I’m sure you’ll agree that there are certain things which are very odd.

Lastly, I shall leave you with this. On the US government’s Californian secretary of state site (http://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/) can be found a “LIST OF ELECTED CANDIDATES FOR THE NOVEMBER 2, 2004 GENERAL ELECTION”. See it here: https://archive.fo/C8LxP. Go down to page 2 to find Nancy Pelosi’s contact details. Her email address is listed as [email protected]

Where does “goathill.com” take you? To a pizza joint. Supposedly run by a Mr Phil DeAndrade
The logo features a goat, which is associated with Satan or Baphomet: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet

"Baphomet (/ˈbæfoʊmɛt/; from Medieval Latin Baphometh, Baffometi, Occitan Bafometz) is a term originally used to describe an idol or other deity that the Knights Templar were accused of worshipping and that subsequently was incorporated into disparate occult and mystical traditions. "

Aliester Crowley, the famous occultist who referred to himself as “the beast 666” (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley), has his own interpretation of Baphomet, which can be found on the wiki page about the beast.

“For Crowley, Baphomet is further a representative of the spiritual nature of the spermatozoa while also being symbolic of the "magical child" produced as a result of sex magic.57 As such, Baphomet represents the Union of Opposites, especially as mystically personified in Chaos and Babalon combined and biologically manifested with the sperm and egg united in the zygote.”

(The Comet Ping Pong sign may also reference Baphomet because it's use of the morning star -heavily associated with Lucifer- and crescent moon on the sign, which is prevalent in depictions of Baphomet. It has been reported that the sign was taken from another business, but who says that business wasn't a previous front?)

Not only that, it looks as if there is a “6” before each word on the logo. Moreover, the ‘ZZ’ in “Pizza” looks out of place, and looks like “77”. I searched wikipedia for the significance of the number 77. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/77_(number)
From that wiki page: "'Liber 77' is the gematrian name for Liber OZ- a brief but popular publication by Aliester Crowley. The word 'oz', which means 'strength', is composed of two hebrew letters- ayin and zayin, which have gematrian values of 70 and 7 respectively, thus adding up to 77."

Here is "Liber OZ" (aka Book 77): http://www.geocities.ws/nu_isis/oz003.gifGIF
I think 4 and 5 are particularly relevant.

Now, maybe you find all that symbolism stuff hard to swallow. It’s true, it could well be a simple case of cognitive bias. But why would Nancy Pelosi have a pizza restaurant owner’s email address listed as her own on a government document? One must surely concede that this is a little odd, and that everything fits into place a little too easily.

You may also ask, if this were really true, why would they be so explicit about it? Well, one only has to look at Jimmy Savile, and his bizarre, overtly sleazy behaviour, to see that these people often hide in plain site.

Thanks for reading.
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Wouldn't hurt to condense this a little bit.
i thought this was about fabregas lmaoooo

also tl;dr

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Original post by cbreef
Wouldn't hurt to condense this a little bit.


I really feel like one needs to read all the information I have given. And it's a big pay off if one does, I'd be very surprised if you didn't come away with a different view of the pizzagate theory, and perhaps even American politics.
Kudos to anyone who reads all of this btw. I don't have the patience.
Reply 5
It's very very long. Shorten it down a bit, or I'll have you for breakfast.

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Reply 6
You collected a lot of information. Kudos for the effort and research, at least!
Interesting video:

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Original post by RedManc
It's very very long. Shorten it down a bit, or I'll have you for breakfast.

Spoiler




Ok, well I'll start you off with one little bit of information that might pique your interest in the subject.

On a .gov site for California, there's a list of elected candidates for the 2004 general election and their contact details. Look at Nancy Pelosi's email, it's on the 2nd page: http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/stat...candidates.pdf

Her email is listed as "[email protected]". Where does "goathill.com" take you? A pizza joint. Why would Nancy Pelosi have a pizza joint's email address listed as her own? It's just a bit weird that a number of top level politicians have these strong links to pizza joints, and that these pizza joints have some weird imagery and links that often connect to paedophilia and the occult. This is of course only one piece of information... but when you add that into the whole picture it really does become very odd.

Also, when you learn about the Dutroux case in Belgium, you realise that this theory perhaps isn't as outlandish as it seems.
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Original post by לזייןהאיסלאם
Ok, well I'll start you off with one little bit of information that might pique your interest in the subject.

On a .gov site for California, there's a list of elected candidates for the 2004 general election and their contact details. Look at Nancy Pelosi's email, it's on the 2nd page: http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/stat...candidates.pdf

Her email is listed as "[email protected]". Where does "goathill.com" take you? A pizza joint. Why would Nancy Pelosi have a pizza joint's email address listed as her own? It's just a bit weird that a number of top level politicians have these strong links to pizza joints, and that these pizza joints have some weird imagery and links that often connect to paedophilia and the occult. This is of course only one piece of information... but when you add that into the whole picture it really does become very odd.

Also, when you learn about the Dutroux case in Belgium, you realise that this theory perhaps isn't as outlandish as it seems.


Runs a secret underground child sex ring. Uses an email address that easily links to said underground child sex ring.

Seems legit.

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Original post by לזייןהאיסלאם
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Where are the victims?
Original post by Aj12
Runs a secret underground child sex ring. Uses an email address that easily links to said underground child sex ring.

Seems legit.

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Well, no it links to a front for it that no one would ever naturally suspect and which seems completely innocuous. Without context, people aren't going to see that her email is for a pizza joint and think "oh, she must be involved in a massive child trafficking ring" so it's not exactly the greatest slip up she could have made. It's also almost certainly a mistake, I seriously doubt that (regardless of whether Goat Hill is a front or in fact just a harmless pizza joint) it is intentional that she has a pizza joint's email address listed as her contact details on a government document.

If you're just gonna judge the whole theory based on this one piece of information, what is the point in commenting? Read through the whole OP. Context is essential.
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Original post by goat_boy
Where are the victims?


Well, you could say the same thing about the Savile case. The victims only began to report his sexual abuse in their droves after he died, and after Newsnight began an investigation into various unpublicised reports that he was a sexual abuser. It's much easier to do this after someone has died because of liable laws.

And this supposed paedophile ring is probably far better organised than Savile's transgressions, and they are probably far better able to keep it under wraps because of the high level politicians involved.
Original post by לזייןהאיסלאם
Well, you could say the same thing about the Savile case. The victims only began to report his sexual abuse in their droves after he died, and after Newsnight began an investigation into various unpublicised reports that he was a sexual abuser. It's much easier to do this after someone has died because of liable laws.


Wasn't Savile questioned over a number of allegations?

Original post by לזייןהאיסלאם

And this supposed paedophile ring is probably far better organised than Savile's transgressions, and they are probably far better able to keep it under wraps because of the high level politicians involved.


Savile was pretty pally with high level politicians, royals, BBC peeps, he must have been pretty organised to get past all the vetting.
Original post by goat_boy
Wasn't Savile questioned over a number of allegations?


Yes he was, I'm not sure the point you are making?


Original post by goat_boy

Savile was pretty pally with high level politicians, royals, BBC peeps, he must have been pretty organised to get past all the vetting.


He was friendly with a lot of people of high stature, but his methods were pretty messy and he was often pretty explicit about his nature.
Original post by לזייןהאיסלאם
Yes he was, I'm not sure the point you are making?




He was friendly with a lot of people of high stature, but his methods were pretty messy and he was often pretty explicit about his nature.


Hmm, maybe, what do you make of the Ted Heath stuff?
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Original post by לזייןהאיסלאם
Yes he was, I'm not sure the point you are making?




He was friendly with a lot of people of high stature, but his methods were pretty messy and he was often pretty explicit about his nature.


This man believes Jimmy Savile was the yorkshire ripper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpVx7-l5hZI

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