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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ents-target-s/
There is a chronic housing shortage in the UK, pushing up prices to unaffordable amounts. Not only that, but new homes have never been smaller.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...shrinking-home
With a crisis like this, how can we even think about taking in more immigrants or refugees?
There is a chronic housing shortage in the UK, pushing up prices to unaffordable amounts. Not only that, but new homes have never been smaller.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...shrinking-home
With a crisis like this, how can we even think about taking in more immigrants or refugees?
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(Original post by Ladbants)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ents-target-s/
There is a chronic housing shortage in the UK, pushing up prices to unaffordable amounts. Not only that, but new homes have never been smaller.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...shrinking-home
With a crisis like this, how can we even think about taking in more immigrants or refugees?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ents-target-s/
There is a chronic housing shortage in the UK, pushing up prices to unaffordable amounts. Not only that, but new homes have never been smaller.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...shrinking-home
With a crisis like this, how can we even think about taking in more immigrants or refugees?
Since we're not going to be killing off pensioners or forcing strangers to share houses, the only solution we have is to build more. Unfortunately, doing so would reduce house prices (or at least slow their increase), so the government doesn't want to do it, home owners are predominantly Tory voters. So while they'll make all the noises about how they're going to fix the problem and that they're setting targets and whatnot, don't expect the housing crisis to be solved any time soon.
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300,000 people moved to the UK last year alone. Are you sure it's not to do with immigration?
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The housing crisis is driven by two main factors, and immigration isn't one of them.
The housing crisis is driven by two main factors, and immigration isn't one of them.
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I think you'll find that the increase in Britain's population by such extraordinary amounts as it has over the past years, and the expected rise by another ten million inside the next twenty-five years, is overwhelmingly due to the direct and indirect results of uncontrolled migration.
I think you'll find that the increase in Britain's population by such extraordinary amounts as it has over the past years, and the expected rise by another ten million inside the next twenty-five years, is overwhelmingly due to the direct and indirect results of uncontrolled migration.
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In order to solve the housing crisis we need to make it harder for people to come in and make it easier to deport people. Especially those who don't want to integrate.
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In order to solve the housing crisis we need to make it harder for people to come in and make it easier to deport people. Especially those who don't want to integrate.
In order to solve the housing crisis we need to make it harder for people to come in and make it easier to deport people. Especially those who don't want to integrate.
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Gov could really do with building 16 storey apartment blocks like other countries do; this time following stringent designs which allow the structures to last. What they built in the 1950s and 60s all fell apart by year 2000
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Impact on population is not the same as impact on housing
Impact on population is not the same as impact on housing
If it were not for continued high immigration the housing shortage could be solved quite quickly, but high immigration means it can never be solved.
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Impact on population is not the same as impact on housing. Migration is a factor for the latter, but even if you reduced net migration to zero the UK would still have a housing crisis.
Impact on population is not the same as impact on housing. Migration is a factor for the latter, but even if you reduced net migration to zero the UK would still have a housing crisis.
We had a new housing estate built nearish to us and it is filled with polish chavs, it is horrible and had a negative impact on our village.
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The UK's population growth rate used to be much higher for much longer in the past couple of hundreds years,
The UK's population growth rate used to be much higher for much longer in the past couple of hundreds years,
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Your position in your first post is that immigration is not a factor in the housing shortage, but that aging population and smaller households are.
Your position in your first post is that immigration is not a factor in the housing shortage, but that aging population and smaller households are.
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If it were not for continued high immigration the housing shortage could be solved quite quickly, but high immigration means it can never be solved.
If it were not for continued high immigration the housing shortage could be solved quite quickly, but high immigration means it can never be solved.
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(Original post by Mathemagicien)
I agree, we need to invest more on infrastructure. My point is that it is an infrastructue issue, rather than an "overpopulation" issue.
I agree, we need to invest more on infrastructure. My point is that it is an infrastructue issue, rather than an "overpopulation" issue.
The M1, for instance, cannot feasibly be given a doubled capacity, and neither can the Birmingham outer circular circle. Even if that were possible, and it could be afforded, it would would take upwards of twenty years to achieve.
Do you want to live in a forty-storey tower block between an airport and a motorway, and have no hospital within twenty miles and needing to commute for two hours to get to work ten miles away? That is what we are heading towards.
I suspect the liberal attitude of today's youth towards immigration will lead them to a life of dwelling in individual rooms concrete tower blocks and no fresh air. Still, as long as people can move around between countries freely, who cares?
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That is not what I said. I said that migration is a factor, but that it isn't the biggest issue to be concerned with. And I maintain that building more houses is the only viable solution, simply reducing net migration would not help enough.
That is not what I said. I said that migration is a factor, but that it isn't the biggest issue to be concerned with. And I maintain that building more houses is the only viable solution, simply reducing net migration would not help enough.
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(Original post by Ladbants)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ents-target-s/
There is a chronic housing shortage in the UK, pushing up prices to unaffordable amounts. Not only that, but new homes have never been smaller.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...shrinking-home
With a crisis like this, how can we even think about taking in more immigrants or refugees?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ents-target-s/
There is a chronic housing shortage in the UK, pushing up prices to unaffordable amounts. Not only that, but new homes have never been smaller.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...shrinking-home
With a crisis like this, how can we even think about taking in more immigrants or refugees?
Its as Dez says the main driving factors are people living longer and changes in society such as divorce or separation. That is also part of the reason for smaller house sizes.
There are also other reasons that can explain why we no longer build as many houses.
We have immigration because they support the economy. We will soon be leaving the EU, which means it will be greatly restricted in future.
We accept a relatively small number of refugees compared to our size and other countries. We do so because we have signed international agreements to assist and are obliged to keep our word.
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. Of course I understand that your small brain can only just grasp the basic supply and demand concept but things are more complicated than that.
. Of course I understand that your small brain can only just grasp the basic supply and demand concept but things are more complicated than that.
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Naturally, insulting those who disagree with you is the best way to advance your argument. If it should, for some unknown reason, fail you can always shout.
Naturally, insulting those who disagree with you is the best way to advance your argument. If it should, for some unknown reason, fail you can always shout.
You havent got anything to say, so you drone in on the ad hom to make a point. Try again degenerate.
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(Original post by Ladbants)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ents-target-s/
There is a chronic housing shortage in the UK, pushing up prices to unaffordable amounts. Not only that, but new homes have never been smaller.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...shrinking-home
With a crisis like this, how can we even think about taking in more immigrants or refugees?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ents-target-s/
There is a chronic housing shortage in the UK, pushing up prices to unaffordable amounts. Not only that, but new homes have never been smaller.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...shrinking-home
With a crisis like this, how can we even think about taking in more immigrants or refugees?
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And focusing on the ad hom and completely ignoring the point was making also advances the argument.
You havent got anything to say, so you drone in on the ad hom to make a point. Try again degenerate.
And focusing on the ad hom and completely ignoring the point was making also advances the argument.
You havent got anything to say, so you drone in on the ad hom to make a point. Try again degenerate.
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