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A bullet is fired into a block of wood. why would both the kinetic energy and momentum not be conserved?
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Original post by franceskkl
A bullet is fired into a block of wood. why would both the kinetic energy and momentum not be conserved?


It must be because it’s a none elastic collision
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Original post by franceskkl
A bullet is fired into a block of wood. why would both the kinetic energy and momentum not be conserved?


Is there any chance that you could send me a copy of this paper please🙂
external forces act on the system and the wood is deformed meaning energy must be transfered.
Original post by franceskkl
A bullet is fired into a block of wood. why would both the kinetic energy and momentum not be conserved?


Like others have said, this is an inelastic collision so KE isn't conserved. Some of the energy is transferred to thermal through the friction of the wood.

However momentum is always conserved when there are no external forces applying on the system hence there is no acceleration.

This question is asking why momentum isn't conserved and that is due to an external force, such as a drag (resistance to the motion of the bullet) and possibly if the wooden block was on a rough surface, a frictional force would be causing a deceleration to it.

Quite simply, because air resistance and possibly resistance to the motion of the block is causing an acceleration hence the velocity will not be constant hence momentum isn't conserved. KE is also lost to sound, heat (Due to friction) as this is not an elastic collision.
Original post by TheTechnoGuy
Like others have said, this is an inelastic collision so KE isn't conserved. Some of the energy is transferred to thermal through the friction of the wood.

However momentum is always conserved when there are no external forces applying on the system hence there is no acceleration.

This question is asking why momentum isn't conserved and that is due to an external force, such as a drag (resistance to the motion of the bullet) and possibly if the wooden block was on a rough surface, a frictional force would be causing a deceleration to it.

Quite simply, because air resistance and possibly resistance to the motion of the block is causing an acceleration hence the velocity will not be constant hence momentum isn't conserved. KE is also lost to sound, heat (Due to friction) as this is not an elastic collision.


Nah momentum is always conserved, mistake in the question, edexcel released an erratum notice
Original post by glad-he-ate-her
Nah momentum is always conserved, mistake in the question, edexcel released an erratum notice


Momentum is only conserved when external forces (such as drag) are not applying on the system. It's not always conserved.

If it said in the question resistances to motion is negligible, then you're point would be valid, but this isn't case since he hasn't posted the full question.
Original post by TheTechnoGuy
Momentum is only conserved when external forces (such as drag) are not applying on the system. It's not always conserved.

If it said in the question resistances to motion is negligible, then you're point would be valid, but this isn't case since he hasn't posted the full question.


Yeah i meant in a system with no external forces, ive seen this question and it said assume no external resistive forces, but of course you had no way of knowing that.

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