Decline of politics - Corbyn vs Keating Watch

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I did a thread on the decline of politics and politicians, in particular how poorly Trump stacked up against Nixon. It's only fair I do the same for the Labour side of politics.

I made a tweet recently comparing Corbyn unfavourably to the Australian Labor Prime Minister (for they use the American spelling of labor in that country) Paul Keating. In my tweet I pointed out that if only the UK Labour Party had a leader who was as strong, aggressive and centrist as Keating was in this video below, Labour would be destroying the Tories in the polls. Given the left is in retreat everywhere at the moment, it's a salve and a tonic for me to watch a strong centre-left leader destroying a conservative, even if it was 20 years ago.

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Another brilliant Keating rebuttal.

The conservative opposition leader John Hewson asked PM Keating if, he was so sure of his policies, why he wouldn't call an early election. Keating's response was, "Because, mate, I want to do you slowly".

NB Keating went on to win the next election.

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How much narcissism is involved in making a thread about yourself making a thread?
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(Original post by AlexanderHam)
I did a thread on the decline of politics and politicians, in particular how poorly Trump stacked up against Nixon. It's only fair I do the same for the Labour side of politics.

I made a tweet recently comparing Corbyn unfavourably to the Australian Labor Prime Minister (for they use the American spelling of labor in that country) Paul Keating. In my tweet I pointed out that if only the UK Labour Party had a leader who was as strong, aggressive and centrist as Keating was in this video below, Labour would be destroying the Tories in the polls. Given the left is in retreat everywhere at the moment, it's a salve and a tonic for me to watch a strong centre-left leader destroying a conservative, even if it was 20 years ago.

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"The Talleyrand of the Liberal Party"

Ooh, I did enjoy that. I'd forgotten how good he was. Loud without shouting, Persuasive, with every point backed up with appropriate evidence and facts. Witty without going over the top and doing a Boris.
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Thank you for quoting me into this thread.

"The Talleyrand of the Liberal Party"

Ooh, I did enjoy that. I'd forgotten how good he was. Loud without shouting, Persuasive, with every point backed up with appropriate evidence and facts. Witty without going over the top and doing a Boris.
I liked the bit where he called Howard a 'conservative apparatchik'. The British politician who seems closest to that description is Michael Gove.

Also, "drags his miserable political carcass back to the frontbench of the Australian parliament". For a dude who left school at 15, he had a remarkable intuitive grasp of economics that put the other side to shame. Watch ten minutes or so of the video below, you'll just be in awe of how he can speak about economics in a way that makes it seem real and interesting (Clinton had that gift too)

Re 'police court', I think Keating is referring to the Australian local magistrates court

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Who cares if the leader is witty or not? I'd rather have a boring genius leading us than a witty retard.
Keating was both. But wits are important in the Westminster system. Just like pursuing a career at the bar, you can't have a dullard who isn't quick on their feet fronting the government in the Commons. Someone who is witty and quick on their feet will usually be a good communicator, which is important for getting across the government's message. It's important for demoralising the opposition and giving a boost to your own side.

The idea that you can completely divorce politics from the actual selling of policy, the communications and debate side of things, is asinine. In a democratic society, it is vital.
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