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Do you approve of the death sentence
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It depends what people do really...
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Nope not at all.
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For the absolute worst crimes, yes.
I believe some people just deserve to have their grave pissed on as soon as possible.
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It says an awful lot about a person if they support the government killing unarmed, non-combatants


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It's a controversial and complex issue, is there ever really a good enough reason for the state to end someone’s life? I don't think so.

Executing a murderer doesn't compensate for the life of the victim and I think the best punishment for the worst crimes against humanity is for them to be forced to live their lives in captivity.

The death penalty leads to the brutalization of society and disturbed individuals may be angered by the punishment and thus even more likely to commit murder.
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Yes. People who kill people should be killed.
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No, I don't agree with it at all, I think it's wrong to take someone's life, whatever they've done. After all, how are we better than the criminals if we resort to such methods?

Morality aside, capital punishment is more costly, doesn't act as a deterrent, and makes a jury less likely to convict, not to mention wrongful incarcerations.

Personally I fail to see any real benefits to the death penalty.

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No.

Why? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Clark
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You'll likely be met with people who are okay with situations like this as long as it means they get to satisfy their medieval bloodlust or the nonsense argument about how executing innocent people is no different to imprisoning innocent people


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Yes. People who kill people should be killed.
So who kills the people who kill the murderers?

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You'll likely be met with people who are okay with situations like this as long as it means they get to satisfy their medieval bloodlust or the nonsense argument about how executing innocent people is no different to imprisoning innocent people
Oh, probably.

Thank God the papers aren't in charge of convictions...!
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(Original post by Underscore__)
It says an awful lot about a person if they support the government killing unarmed, non-combatants


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You say this as if governments wouldn't dare dream of such thing? Or as if in history the concept is unfamiliar?
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So who kills the people who kill the murderers?

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thank you!
people who kill (or at least have that capability) are not necessarily murderers
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thank you!
people who kill (or at least have that capability) are not necessarily murderers
I would agree, some who have killed will have done so in self defence, for example, but would be classified in the same manner according to the earlier post.

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I would agree, some who have killed will have done so in self defence, for example, but would be classified in the same manner according to the earlier post.

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this is why we have the rules of engagement. A weapon can only be discharged when life is threatened otherwise it is murder
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So who kills the people who kill the murderers?
Is this a trick question?
The state executioner, of course.
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Is this a trick question?
The state executioner, of course.
It's not a trick question, no - but your post said that people who kill people should be killed. So by extension, surely anyone who executes the death penalty should also be killed, as they've done it to someone else?
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this is why we have the rules of engagement. A weapon can only be discharged when life is threatened otherwise it is murder
Where have you got this idea from?


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It's not a trick question, no - but your post said that people who kill people should be killed. So by extension, surely anyone who executes the death penalty should also be killed, as they've done it to someone else?
Very clever, but I want to debate this subject seriously.

Look, anyone who opposes the reintroduction of the death penalty on the basis of it not deterring crime, as you and EC clearly believe, should look at the data. Since the abolition of hanging, the homicide rate has more than doubled, reaching its peak in 2002.

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Sure, it's very difficult to say how much effect the abolition of the death penalty has had on these findings. It's important to note that the murder rate in 1952 (when we still had the death penalty) was higher than the following years until 1967. 1967 has shown a considerable increase in murders since.

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Crime in England and Wales 2003/04: Supplementary Volume 1: Homicide and Gun Crime, HOSB 2/05

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The taking of life is the single worst thing, and to let criminals out after a few years, which happens more often than you think, says to society that we don't care if you get killed. Thus, murders will continue to increase, as they have done.
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