Why are the English considered British when they are not Britons?

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Has there been sufficient breeding with the native Britons for most English people to be considered British? If the Anglo-Saxon blood is dominant then they should be known as Germans not Britons. Please explain this to me. And am I correct that the Welsh and possibly Irish have the purest (ancient) British blood that there is? Gotta bag me a welsh/irish chick.

So basically what I'm trying to say is that "British" should be replaced with "Norman Anglo-Saxon Romano-Britons" and that our heritage from ancient Britons is (probably) not dominant.

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If all ethnic groups in England are included, then your suggestion leaves out quite a few groups. Why include Normans and Anglo-Saxons but not the Indians and the Irish?

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If all ethnic groups in England are included, then your suggestion leaves out quite a few groups. Why include Normans and Anglo-Saxons but not the Indians and the Irish?

Afaik I don't have any Indian heritage. As for the Irish aren't they just Celtic Britons? I'm not sure who else has mixed with them other than everyone who has mixed with the English.

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Because British is a nationality and has no relevance on your ethnic makeup.

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Afaik I don't have any Indian heritage. As for the Irish aren't they just Celtic Britons? I'm not sure who else has mixed with them other than everyone who has mixed with the English.

It doesn't matter what you have. And if the Irish are just Celtic Britons, then the Normans are "just" Viking which is Germanic and native French which is Celtic. Anglo-Saxon too is just Germanic. So you can all boil it down to Celtic and Germanic and do away with all the Anglo-Saxon, Norman nonsense.

And the broader point is that if you are going to include all the ethnicities of the UK in your title, you'll need far more than just Norman, Roman, Anglo-Saxon and Celtic.

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(Original post by IFLICHBA)
Has there been sufficient breeding with the native Britons for most English people to be considered British? If the Anglo-Saxon blood is dominant then they should be known as Germans not Britons. Please explain this to me. And am I correct that the Welsh and possibly Irish have the purest (ancient) British blood that there is? Gotta bag me a welsh/irish chick.

So basically what I'm trying to say is that "British" should be replaced with "Norman Anglo-Saxon Romano-Britons" and that our heritage from ancient Britons is (probably) not dominant.

Modern genetic science has widely disproven the long standing notion that the English are primarily of Anglo Saxon descent. Less than half of English people have any Germanic admixture, and of those who do
(and they are generally confined to the Eastern regions of England) it accounts for only around 10 - 40% of their genetic makeup. Native Briton is still dominant.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530134-300-ancient-invaders-transformed-britain-but-not-its-dna/

The Romans and Normans also seemingly had no notable genetic impact on the native British population. The Vikings did have some impact, but mostly in Orkney and Shetland. Most British (including the English) people's DNA has remained relatively unchanged since the Mesolithic.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...itishgene.html

Miles, research fellow at the Institute of Archaeology in Oxford, England, says recent genetic and archaeological evidence puts a new perspective on the history of the British people.

"There's been a lot of arguing over the last ten years, but it's now more or less agreed that about 80 percent of Britons' genes come from hunter-gatherers who came in immediately after the Ice Age," Miles said.

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