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Merton is nice - wat were ur predicted grades and conditional offer?
BTW, wat do u think of Exeter college?
BTW, wat do u think of Exeter college?
My predicted grades were 5A's and my offer was AAB with one A in English.
To be honest I have not really heard a lot about Exeter so I cannot really comment, the only way to find out is by going there on an open day.
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Merton is nice - wat were ur predicted grades and conditional offer?
BTW, wat do u think of Exeter college?
BTW, wat do u think of Exeter college?
My predicted grades were 5A's and my offer was AAB with one A in English.
To be honest I have not really heard a lot about Exeter so I cannot comment, the only way to find out is by going there on an open day.
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How much extra reading did you do? Do you think two or three law books is enough, and did you just read general ones like Learning the Law or did you also read books on any particular aspects that interest you?
I read 'Learning the Law' and 'The Law Machine', some other applicants had researched the careers of the law tutors and had read lots of books about the areas of law they specialised in and had prepared several cases...in my opinion that is just far too excessive so I was happy with the little bit of prep I had done.
tagzt
My predicted grades were 5A's and my offer was AAB with one A in English.
To be honest I have not really heard a lot about Exeter so I cannot comment, the only way to find out is by going there on an open day.
To be honest I have not really heard a lot about Exeter so I cannot comment, the only way to find out is by going there on an open day.
Did the 5As include general studies or was it five subjects for A2s? Also did you find everybody at interview was doing four or five A2s? Id like to give one up, as although I got an A at AS Im not enjoying it, but I am concerned that for Oxford law everyone will be doing more than the minimum.
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Did the 5As include general studies or was it five subjects for A2s? Also did you find everybody at interview was doing four or five A2s? Id like to give one up, as although I got an A at AS Im not enjoying it, but I am concerned that for Oxford law everyone will be doing more than the minimum.
yea that included general studies...not everyone was doing 4 or 5 A-levels and that is entirely your own choice. i think the cambridge admissions officer said that he would rather student did well in 3 a-levels than not so well in 4 or 5.
personally i think that everything hinges on the interview and written test...you might have done 10 A-levels but if you cannot create a discussion during an interview then you will not benefit from the Oxford tutorial system...my advice would be to just relax, apply and do the best you can.
tagzt
yea that included general studies...not everyone was doing 4 or 5 A-levels and that is entirely your own choice. i think the cambridge admissions officer said that he would rather student did well in 3 a-levels than not so well in 4 or 5.
personally i think that everything hinges on the interview and written test...you might have done 10 A-levels but if you cannot create a discussion during an interview then you will not benefit from the Oxford tutorial system...my advice would be to just relax, apply and do the best you can.
personally i think that everything hinges on the interview and written test...you might have done 10 A-levels but if you cannot create a discussion during an interview then you will not benefit from the Oxford tutorial system...my advice would be to just relax, apply and do the best you can.
Thanks for the advice, Ill bear that in mind!
Hey Mr Inquirer,
If yu really want to go and study a world class law school rather than Jurisprudence which what Oxford teaches then it would be vital to consider Cambridge. The Law school here is the best in the coutry-- though I freaking hate the Roman law we are doing in my first year. My older brother is at Christ Church,. Oxford he hates it because they are taught more of a legal theory than practice.
If you are not persuaded by this then go ahead, good luck with the mistake of your life.
Adam Jama
If yu really want to go and study a world class law school rather than Jurisprudence which what Oxford teaches then it would be vital to consider Cambridge. The Law school here is the best in the coutry-- though I freaking hate the Roman law we are doing in my first year. My older brother is at Christ Church,. Oxford he hates it because they are taught more of a legal theory than practice.
If you are not persuaded by this then go ahead, good luck with the mistake of your life.
Adam Jama
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Hey Mr Inquirer,
If yu really want to go and study a world class law school rather than Jurisprudence which what Oxford teaches then it would be vital to consider Cambridge. The Law school here is the best in the coutry-- though I freaking hate the Roman law we are doing in my first year. My older brother is at Christ Church,. Oxford he hates it because they are taught more of a legal theory than practice.
If you are not persuaded by this then go ahead, good luck with the mistake of your life.
Adam Jama
If yu really want to go and study a world class law school rather than Jurisprudence which what Oxford teaches then it would be vital to consider Cambridge. The Law school here is the best in the coutry-- though I freaking hate the Roman law we are doing in my first year. My older brother is at Christ Church,. Oxford he hates it because they are taught more of a legal theory than practice.
If you are not persuaded by this then go ahead, good luck with the mistake of your life.
Adam Jama
Law at Oxford is academic, not vocational.
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Hey my friend has started Law in oxford and she had AAB in her A2's. YOu will be alrite if your mind and heart is set right. Nothing is impossible in life you have to know how to make things happen your way.
She had a D for AS Maths. But she did not write it on her ucas.
By advise is to get an excellent reference from your school and a good personal statement. She wrote her own and got the teacher to sign it. Hey i have worked with her and she is alright not exactly the brains of england but she had the heart set on going to oxford. She's in now so i guess she will be succesful.
She had a D for AS Maths. But she did not write it on her ucas.
By advise is to get an excellent reference from your school and a good personal statement. She wrote her own and got the teacher to sign it. Hey i have worked with her and she is alright not exactly the brains of england but she had the heart set on going to oxford. She's in now so i guess she will be succesful.
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I am just going to a regular high street solicitors (in High Wycombe, Bucks). Nowt spectacular but I will get to go to the County Court for Civil cases and the Crown court for some criminal cases which will look quite good on the UCAS form and will be interesting nonetheless.
U say law is v. competitive at Oxbridge. think again. UCL, Durham, Warick etc. I believe r more competitve. At least at Oxford you have a 1 in 4 chance. At UCL, there can literally be many more applicants peer place.
Also, you say that most applicants have 4 or 5 A/S As. I believe that but the thing is, is you do not have to declare A/S grades on ur UCAS form if ur school doesnt certificate them. That works out pretty nicely for me as I am confident of having 4 A grade predictions at A2.
U say law is v. competitive at Oxbridge. think again. UCL, Durham, Warick etc. I believe r more competitve. At least at Oxford you have a 1 in 4 chance. At UCL, there can literally be many more applicants peer place.
Also, you say that most applicants have 4 or 5 A/S As. I believe that but the thing is, is you do not have to declare A/S grades on ur UCAS form if ur school doesnt certificate them. That works out pretty nicely for me as I am confident of having 4 A grade predictions at A2.
2,900 people applied for law at UCL for 2003 entry.
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Hey my friend has started Law in oxford and she had AAB in her A2's. YOu will be alrite if your mind and heart is set right. Nothing is impossible in life you have to know how to make things happen your way.
She had a D for AS Maths. But she did not write it on her ucas.
By advise is to get an excellent reference from your school and a good personal statement. She wrote her own and got the teacher to sign it. Hey i have worked with her and she is alright not exactly the brains of england but she had the heart set on going to oxford. She's in now so i guess she will be succesful.
She had a D for AS Maths. But she did not write it on her ucas.
By advise is to get an excellent reference from your school and a good personal statement. She wrote her own and got the teacher to sign it. Hey i have worked with her and she is alright not exactly the brains of england but she had the heart set on going to oxford. She's in now so i guess she will be succesful.
what A Levels did she study apart from AS Maths
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Hey Mr Inquirer,
If yu really want to go and study a world class law school rather than Jurisprudence which what Oxford teaches then it would be vital to consider Cambridge. The Law school here is the best in the coutry-- though I freaking hate the Roman law we are doing in my first year. My older brother is at Christ Church,. Oxford he hates it because they are taught more of a legal theory than practice.
If you are not persuaded by this then go ahead, good luck with the mistake of your life.
Adam Jama
If yu really want to go and study a world class law school rather than Jurisprudence which what Oxford teaches then it would be vital to consider Cambridge. The Law school here is the best in the coutry-- though I freaking hate the Roman law we are doing in my first year. My older brother is at Christ Church,. Oxford he hates it because they are taught more of a legal theory than practice.
If you are not persuaded by this then go ahead, good luck with the mistake of your life.
Adam Jama
A law degree is not supposed to be a training course that churns out solicitors/barristers...it is an academic discipline in its own right and this is how the Oxford tutors teach it and this is what employers find so attractive in Oxford law graduates. Also at Oxford you get more tutorials (supervisions) than you do at Cambridge which brilliant because you get to spend more time with the best legal minds in the world.
Being taught the legal theory behind the law is far more interesting and intellectually engaging than simply learning how to practice it...I would highly recommend Law at Oxford (as long as you are prepared to work very hard)
hey all,
just stumbled onto this website.
it's very true, law at uni is meant to teach you the theory behind the law rather than actual practice of it (unless you choose a subject which is based primarily on practice, for example I do Criminal Procedure and Evidence this year) The theory is the most important thing to start your mind thinking from a legal bent so to speak. Cambridge does largely teach you the theory of law, allowing you to expand what skills you gain into practice. Roman Law, which Adam mentioned for example, has no real relevance to modern life, BUT, it is remarkably logical, and teaches you skills which are useful for other subjects, as well as being lots of fun.
Both Oxford and Cambridge take very traditional approaches to the teaching of law, teaching largely black letter law, and leaving the practical sides of things up to the Law Schools when you do your LPC or BVC.
The only way I can think to choose where to go is to visit both places and see which suits you the most. Meet your tutors etc. I went to both places, stumbled into my present college (Downing), thought it was gorgeous, decided to meet the fellows, found out they were sooo nice, so chose it. But I have friends at Oxford who love it there too. It's all a matter of personal preference.
This is far too long, hope it helps someone.
Chris Ninan xx
just stumbled onto this website.
it's very true, law at uni is meant to teach you the theory behind the law rather than actual practice of it (unless you choose a subject which is based primarily on practice, for example I do Criminal Procedure and Evidence this year) The theory is the most important thing to start your mind thinking from a legal bent so to speak. Cambridge does largely teach you the theory of law, allowing you to expand what skills you gain into practice. Roman Law, which Adam mentioned for example, has no real relevance to modern life, BUT, it is remarkably logical, and teaches you skills which are useful for other subjects, as well as being lots of fun.
Both Oxford and Cambridge take very traditional approaches to the teaching of law, teaching largely black letter law, and leaving the practical sides of things up to the Law Schools when you do your LPC or BVC.
The only way I can think to choose where to go is to visit both places and see which suits you the most. Meet your tutors etc. I went to both places, stumbled into my present college (Downing), thought it was gorgeous, decided to meet the fellows, found out they were sooo nice, so chose it. But I have friends at Oxford who love it there too. It's all a matter of personal preference.
This is far too long, hope it helps someone.
Chris Ninan xx
tagzt
Your grades will gurantee you an interview at Oxford, the only people who get rejected are those with no chance of getting AAB at A2 (e.g. if they got CDDD at AS). And they do not take GCSE's into account as much as they used to before AS-Levels, everyone peaks academically at different stages and just because you were not at your best during GCSE does not mean you will not cope at Degree level.
As for your work experience and extra reading, although that will impress uni's that don't interview (warwick, durham, LSE, kings...) it will not do too much at oxford. Law tutors anywhere hate it when people try and call Law a vocational course (i.e. it is a degree with the sole purpose of churning out barristers and solicitors), they think of it as an academic discipline in its own right and just because you have worked at a solicitors firm will not impress them much.
Although extra reading helps with subjects like English and History, for Law the tutors expect you to have no legal knowledge at all and when i went for my interview, the tutor told us all that she hates it when applicants try and impress her with their legal knowledge because they are in no position to understand it fully.
Before i applied to OXford, i did work experience and extra reading not because i thought it would help me get in, but because it helped me make up my mind that law was for me. i saw that i could happliy work in a law firm and the books i read interested me...so do these things for yourself and not because you think they will get your foot in the door at Oxford. Good luck.
As for your work experience and extra reading, although that will impress uni's that don't interview (warwick, durham, LSE, kings...) it will not do too much at oxford. Law tutors anywhere hate it when people try and call Law a vocational course (i.e. it is a degree with the sole purpose of churning out barristers and solicitors), they think of it as an academic discipline in its own right and just because you have worked at a solicitors firm will not impress them much.
Although extra reading helps with subjects like English and History, for Law the tutors expect you to have no legal knowledge at all and when i went for my interview, the tutor told us all that she hates it when applicants try and impress her with their legal knowledge because they are in no position to understand it fully.
Before i applied to OXford, i did work experience and extra reading not because i thought it would help me get in, but because it helped me make up my mind that law was for me. i saw that i could happliy work in a law firm and the books i read interested me...so do these things for yourself and not because you think they will get your foot in the door at Oxford. Good luck.
Did you have to sit for the written law test as well at the interview stage?
kew62811
Did you have to sit for the written law test as well at the interview stage?
are you wanting to stand?
kew62811
Don't understand your question. Please repeat again.
it was a very bad joke.
With regards to a written law test (and apart from baaad jokes), at Cambridge, it depends on which college you apply to.
My college (Downing), required nothing, no essays to submit beforehand, and no written law exam. I know that some others at Cambridge (Jesus for one) make you sit a law aptitude test thingie. Which is why I didn't apply there.
I read something in the paper about the Russell Group (big ass uni's) thinking about setting a common law exam for wannabe law undergraduates, like the Medics BMAT/MVAT. I don't know when that will come into play.
Hope this helps
xx
My college (Downing), required nothing, no essays to submit beforehand, and no written law exam. I know that some others at Cambridge (Jesus for one) make you sit a law aptitude test thingie. Which is why I didn't apply there.
I read something in the paper about the Russell Group (big ass uni's) thinking about setting a common law exam for wannabe law undergraduates, like the Medics BMAT/MVAT. I don't know when that will come into play.
Hope this helps
xx
Hi - just seived through all the rather interesting messages on this section (im bored you see).
Anyway I thought the comments, altho rather old now, would be interesting and useful since I have applied to Law myself at Oxford. (I have also applied to KCL, UCL, LSE, Nott and Manchester).
Reading what everyone had said was really interesting, because it did make me realise how competitive Law was (although I did know that but it was kind of a reality check), but also the various comments that ppl made about AS/A2 results, predicted results, experience, background reading yak yak yak. To be honest I think a few ppl raised issues of being dedicated to the course, well I think that's it - you can read as many bloody law books as you want to impress the tutors but I think if your mind, body and soul (sorry to sound cliched
isnt in it, well then it means nothing.
I really don't mean that in a pompous way, and to be honest I haven't read massively and consciously just for my interview. I do the normal things of reading up on things (when I have time) I am interested in, and the newspaper. Addmitedly I did feel like quite worried, hearing bout all the masses of reading ppl had done, but I'm just going to give my interview (next week coincidently) my best shot.
I have actually been thru the whole Oxford interview before so I kinda no wat to expect, as a I am a gap yr student. After getting my results (AAAB) I am now working on a Law related Research Project at a uni in York. My heart's in it, and from the Project I know I'm in the right career, which I wasn't sure about probably this time last year, thus the gap year. I think i was probably unsure of a lot of things last yr cos I applied to St Hilda's (lol) and NO I am not a lesbian, but Id been to an all girls independent school for 10 yrs and I liked my time there. Well, anyway, a year later I have re-applied to St Hugh's.
So is there anyone that has applied to St Hughs? or is studying there? Opinions?
Best of luck for everyone with interviews and stuff.
Btw, for ppl that have applied to Nottingham as well to read law, isn't it interesting that the aptitude test that I got invited on is on one of the same days as the Oxford interviews? Cos I have heard rumours that Nott automatically rejects ppl that have applied to Oxbridge?
And does any one have any specific advice for the test and interviews at Oxford cos there are no sample papers?
apologies for the rant! lol
Bahar ~x~
Anyway I thought the comments, altho rather old now, would be interesting and useful since I have applied to Law myself at Oxford. (I have also applied to KCL, UCL, LSE, Nott and Manchester).
Reading what everyone had said was really interesting, because it did make me realise how competitive Law was (although I did know that but it was kind of a reality check), but also the various comments that ppl made about AS/A2 results, predicted results, experience, background reading yak yak yak. To be honest I think a few ppl raised issues of being dedicated to the course, well I think that's it - you can read as many bloody law books as you want to impress the tutors but I think if your mind, body and soul (sorry to sound cliched
isnt in it, well then it means nothing.I really don't mean that in a pompous way, and to be honest I haven't read massively and consciously just for my interview. I do the normal things of reading up on things (when I have time) I am interested in, and the newspaper. Addmitedly I did feel like quite worried, hearing bout all the masses of reading ppl had done, but I'm just going to give my interview (next week coincidently) my best shot.
I have actually been thru the whole Oxford interview before so I kinda no wat to expect, as a I am a gap yr student. After getting my results (AAAB) I am now working on a Law related Research Project at a uni in York. My heart's in it, and from the Project I know I'm in the right career, which I wasn't sure about probably this time last year, thus the gap year. I think i was probably unsure of a lot of things last yr cos I applied to St Hilda's (lol) and NO I am not a lesbian, but Id been to an all girls independent school for 10 yrs and I liked my time there. Well, anyway, a year later I have re-applied to St Hugh's.
So is there anyone that has applied to St Hughs? or is studying there? Opinions?
Best of luck for everyone with interviews and stuff.
Btw, for ppl that have applied to Nottingham as well to read law, isn't it interesting that the aptitude test that I got invited on is on one of the same days as the Oxford interviews? Cos I have heard rumours that Nott automatically rejects ppl that have applied to Oxbridge?
And does any one have any specific advice for the test and interviews at Oxford cos there are no sample papers?
apologies for the rant! lol
Bahar ~x~
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